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Does Roboute (thanks for linking the video above as I could automatically correct my mispelling of his name!) come with any ranged weapons? I'm always curious if the primarch models can be used relatively appropriately for any standard special characters. Roboute has a power fist and power sword (just like marneus although he obviously has a pair of the former) but I'm curious if a ranged bolt weapon is represented on the primarch as well.

 warboss wrote:
Does Roboute (thanks for linking the video above as I could automatically correct my mispelling of his name!) come with any ranged weapons? I'm always curious if the primarch models can be used relatively appropriately for any standard special characters. Roboute has a power fist and power sword (just like marneus although he obviously has a pair of the former) but I'm curious if a ranged bolt weapon is represented on the primarch as well.

Yes!

"His mastery of strategy makes him not only an skilled commander, but also a lethal combatant. An expert in the arts of war, Guilliman possesses a vast selection of weapons and wargear. The most iconic of which include the Hand of Dominion, a unique power gauntlet, the Gladius Incandor, a shimmering blade of great artifice and the Arbitrator, a customised combi-bolter. "

He carries Arbitrator across the small of his back, you can just see it poking out between the cape and his armour.

Cool, thanks for the clarifications! No wonder I didn't see it back there. I might end up getting him at some distant point in the future but first I'll have to finish up my Space Wolf converted Horus and Ferrus (the Warboss Heresy!). He wouldn't be inducted into the Vlyka Fenryka but be the first primarch that stays with his own legion in my little collection.

Nothing here

One, please! Maybe next month, though...

Wonder how he draws that gun since he has it on the side where his boxing glove is?

 Theophony wrote:
Wonder how he draws that gun since he has it on the side where his boxing glove is?

Magnets and string

If the man can breathe in space he can draw something as simple as a bolter from his back without a problem.

 Desubot wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Wonder how he draws that gun since he has it on the side where his boxing glove is?

Magnets and string

You're not forging the narrative hard enough. Obviously, some word bearer gal vorbak will have to cinematically knock it off the small of his back while Roboute then pummels him back into the warp with the power fist before shooting down the Traitor Navy frigate with the bolter in the OTHER hand. duh...

Angron is armed and modeled to have a huge plasma pistol (holstered on his left calf I believe.)

Being Angron he's obviously never used it


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 Theophony wrote:
Wonder how he draws that gun since he has it on the side where his boxing glove is?

The only Time in canon I've read about a Primarch using ranged weaponry was Corvax using a marine heavy Bolter as a rifle during the Dropsite massacre.

Primarchs are generally speaking Close Combat power houses both in game and in fluff and don't even bother firing there (comparatively) dainty side arms when they can smash a knight titan out of existence in one round of close combat.

Being Ultramarines it might be purely ornamental (I.E. Guillman doesn't intend to actually use it.)

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
Angron is armed and modeled to have a huge plasma pistol (holstered on his left calf I believe.)

Being Angron he's obviously never used it


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 Theophony wrote:
Wonder how he draws that gun since he has it on the side where his boxing glove is?

The only Time in canon I've read about a Primarch using ranged weaponry was Corvax using a marine heavy Bolter as a rifle during the Dropsite massacre.

Primarchs are generally speaking Close Combat power houses both in game and in fluff and don't even bother firing there (comparatively) dainty side arms when they can smash a knight titan out of existence in one round of close combat.

Being Ultramarines it might be purely ornamental (I.E. Guillman doesn't intend to actually use it.)

I'm sure Magnus uses his mind bullets at some point. That's about as close to firing a ranged weapon as they get, though...

I know it must have been tricky to integrate his base into the display one but I really don't like how he looks removed from it.

 Eldarain wrote:
I know it must have been tricky to integrate his base into the display one but I really don't like how he looks removed from it.

Credit though to the seamless fit though.

I think it can be built up or cracked from underneath since the big blocky sides can be messed with without being seen while in the display part.

I think it would be fun to put every existing Primarch against his brothers, like a tournament, and see who has the best combat abilities (stats).

In one of the latest books from the HH series Russ claimed that he had fought everyone of his brothers either in a real combat or in sparring cages and he won every time except for Horus.

1d4chan has Mathhammer tournaments for all the Primarchs

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Roboute_Guilliman
as an example

Fulgrim uses an areotech pistol to remove a titans shields in the disappointing Reflection Crack'd

Anyone else find it ironic that Guilliman did a better job of conquering the Imperium than Horus did?

But seriously love the model. I'll have to save up a bit to get him and his honour guard. Maybe use him as a counts as Calgar once in a while...

MacMuckles wrote:
1d4chan has Mathhammer tournaments for all the Primarchs

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Roboute_Guilliman
as an example

The math looks wrong for Horus in Horus vs. Roboute as they list Horus hitting 5.3 times yet he only has 5 attacks base, all the primarch vs. primarch stuff on 1d4chan ignores charging bonus and he doesn't get the 2 CC weapon bonus I think?

I get Horus causing 1.481 wounds (1d4chan has it at 1.778) before the invulnerable reroll that Roboute gets for the first failed invulnerable save and IWND, not sure how to work that out?

I suspect that takes them closer to equal for number of wounds caused, Horus has the better invulnerable save and the better starting WS but Roboute has counters for disabling strike in preternatural strategy and the rerollable invulnerable save, otherwise they have the same stats.

It is funny how they point out that the guy is anything but original, as he just took ideas of others and improved on those. A recurring theme of sorts with the Ultras that almost saw them die when they were up against the Tyranids for the first time.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Anyone else find it ironic that Guilliman did a better job of conquering the Imperium than Horus did?

But seriously love the model. I'll have to save up a bit to get him and his honour guard. Maybe use him as a counts as Calgar once in a while...

Errr.. he's a bit big for Calgar lol. Even if Calgar's in TDA he's still a midget by comparison lol.

 Desubot wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I know it must have been tricky to integrate his base into the display one but I really don't like how he looks removed from it.

Credit though to the seamless fit though.

I think it can be built up or cracked from underneath since the big blocky sides can be messed with without being seen while in the display part.

The base is in three parts, with the piece he is stood on in the middle of the other two. Basically a really expensive jigsaw.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Anyone else find it ironic that Guilliman did a better job of conquering the Imperium than Horus did?

But seriously love the model. I'll have to save up a bit to get him and his honour guard. Maybe use him as a counts as Calgar once in a while...

Errr.. he's a bit big for Calgar lol. Even if Calgar's in TDA he's still a midget by comparison lol.

That is okay with me. I won't be taking it to serious games, I just want him to hit things without spending a few grand making an ultramarines legion army to go with him.

One of the better Primarch sculpts so far, for sure.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Anyone else find it ironic that Guilliman did a better job of conquering the Imperium than Horus did?

But seriously love the model. I'll have to save up a bit to get him and his honour guard. Maybe use him as a counts as Calgar once in a while...

Errr.. he's a bit big for Calgar lol. Even if Calgar's in TDA he's still a midget by comparison lol.

While I don't have a pic of Calgar next to Roboute (hey, I spelled it correctly without prompting or googling!), they're not completely out of whack. The plasma cannon guy is a truescale marine made from mostly terminator bits along with inquisitor rex for a size comparison.



My introduction into 40k came with the 3rd edition Blood Angel codex. The terminator on the cover there formed the basis for what TDA should be visually and size wise for me (and it meshed with the fluff much more than the old 2nd edition puny metal models ever did). I'd obviously have no issues using him as a calgar in TDA although from a size perspective at least.

 Ashiraya wrote:
One of the better Primarch sculpts so far, for sure.

Really? It's possibly the worst in my opinion.

 Asmodai Asmodean wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
One of the better Primarch sculpts so far, for sure.

Really? It's possibly the worst in my opinion.

Preferences are subjective. I think it's good. It's a crisp sculpt that makes use of some softer details. The pose conveys the classical notion of a general leading his army. As a representation of the Ultramarines primarch he looks like the drawings and artwork that preceded this sculpt.

He is better than Angron (I don’t like his armour), Fulgrim, Ferrus Manus (looks nice but the pose is odd.) and Mortarion (terrible face, needs a helmet badly or at least ditch the hood).

Guilliman is between Lorgar and Vulkan in quality imo.

I think he is the best one so far. So good in fact, he makes me want to collect Ultramarines and buy him, despite the Ultramarines being by far the most boring Legion/Chapter.
Truly outstanding paintjob on him as well.