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 Formosa wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
**edit, I wonder if you just got wires crossed over the GW Dark Angels release**

You definitely don't want to cross thread streams. This is one of the very few generally positive GW threads mainly because GW is relatively hands off.

I am suggesting he got his wires crossed in what he's claiming he heard from his 'high ranking FW mate', in a quote from this thread.

Because I really strongly suggest that Dark Angels are nowhere near the top of the 'to do' list for them right now.

The two rumours don't seem entirely incompatible though, it certainly didn't sound like DAs were near the top, but only just beginning to be considered at all. Looks like it would just be the framework of the fluff beginning to be worked out, miles away from any models.

Yep at no point did I suggest dark angels are next, only that they have begun working on them, I even said based on my own conjecture that they are likely at least a year away, I am just excited that they have begun the work, hence the share.

If people don't like it, I don't care, I'm not a rumour monger and couldn't care less about such things, I'm just sharing the good news with my fellow hh enthusiasts, and please try to remember that the people that make these games are HUMAN and are allowed FRIENDS, the person never shares info with me normally but knew this would excite me, so told me for a change.

That's interesting, because, as I said, hypothetically, there are nowhere near the top of the pile, as in they are not being worked on. At all. Hypothetically.

I would suggest someone is feeding you a line.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
**edit, I wonder if you just got wires crossed over the GW Dark Angels release**

You definitely don't want to cross thread streams. This is one of the very few generally positive GW threads mainly because GW is relatively hands off.

I am suggesting he got his wires crossed in what he's claiming he heard from his 'high ranking FW mate', in a quote from this thread.

Because I really strongly suggest that Dark Angels are nowhere near the top of the 'to do' list for them right now.

The two rumours don't seem entirely incompatible though, it certainly didn't sound like DAs were near the top, but only just beginning to be considered at all. Looks like it would just be the framework of the fluff beginning to be worked out, miles away from any models.

Yep at no point did I suggest dark angels are next, only that they have begun working on them, I even said based on my own conjecture that they are likely at least a year away, I am just excited that they have begun the work, hence the share.

If people don't like it, I don't care, I'm not a rumour monger and couldn't care less about such things, I'm just sharing the good news with my fellow hh enthusiasts, and please try to remember that the people that make these games are HUMAN and are allowed FRIENDS, the person never shares info with me normally but knew this would excite me, so told me for a change.

That's interesting, because, as I said, hypothetically, there are nowhere near the top of the pile, as in they are not being worked on. At all. Hypothetically.

I would suggest someone is feeding you a line.

Or someone's feeding you a line, we don't know, we don't work there, I trust my mate, you don't trust me, I don't care, it's called news and rumours for a reason, I got some info which you dispute, which is fine and your entitled to you opinion, like I said I'm not a rumour monger, neither are you, if you have some valid information to share then please do

Otherwise we can just wait patiently and see as it will most likely come up at the next weekender.

I trust Stompa's word over yours, as I've got a pretty good idea of who he has been talking to.

There is your Warlord ready to be pre-ordered!

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/MARS_PATTERN_WARLORD_TITAN_BODY.html

 Fireball wrote:
There is your Warlord ready to be pre-ordered!

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/MARS_PATTERN_WARLORD_TITAN_BODY.html

So much love for this model!

I will probably never own one of these but it's an incredible model. I love this photo with the Princeps stood on the back:

 ImAGeek wrote:
I will probably never own one of these but it's an incredible model. I love this photo with the Princeps stood on the back:

I know what you mean, the price is astounding, but then again so is the model

Tis a thing of beauty, for sure. Will warm shelves more than shake fields with its titanic tread, but a beautiful machine nonetheless and will make many an owner proud.

Shame it's not in 6mm where you can actually fight properly. Surely the Warlord rules just show the weakness of the underlying 40k system for handling large and powerful War Engines.

Just fething beautiful man.

Will there be alternate heads? Not loving that one for some reason.

Not that I would ever purchase one anyway, of course

Really? I really like the head. Yeah there will anyway, this (quite awful) one will be a WHW exclusive and I assume there'll be more:

And that's practical how? Ah right...

Doubt the people buying one of these would care about that of course, still though I'd hate to see the hassle it'd be to transport that and phew, move it around a table.

Hmn, potentual for an Epic scale model, but like hell they'll ever do that. Do they still include Epic scale scenarios in their books like they used to? Those were an interesting way of showing different types of battle, but I guess nowadays they'd just say "yeah that 2000 a side battle, aye go play that as an apocalypse game".

OK, any misivings I may have had over the default head for the titan were rendered moot by the princeps model himself- Princeps Duke von Crazyhair!

Can't wait for this to arrive. Then despair over having to actually build the sucker.

 Wyrmalla wrote:

Hmn, potentual for an Epic scale model, but like hell they'll ever do that. Do they still include Epic scale scenarios in their books like they used to? Those were an interesting way of showing different types of battle, but I guess nowadays they'd just say "yeah that 2000 a side battle, aye go play that as an apocalypse game".

Agreed and agreed again. FW, please put out a new 6mm Adeptus Titanicus game...

Oh, here's the obligatory video with the Titan music from Space Marine (appropriately)

Wait is this supposed to be one of these, or are those the larger Emperor class titans? I thought it was a Warlord in Abnett's novel? In any case GW's sense of scale is all over the place, I mean I've seen the same Titans in that image being the same size of tenements, whilst in other art they're hundreds of times larger than a Leman Russ. Bleh.



What especially annoys me about Epic, even though I don't play GW games anymore, is that third parties are still making models for it. I remember seeing some of the new Space Marine tanks in Epic scale and they looked great. Eugh, typical GW business strategies. They'd rather stick with the same old systems and turtle instead of diversifying. How many people play games like Dropzone Commander? Apparently GW's fine with not having a slice of that cake anymore. *rants* =P

I'm actually going into Warhammer World today, gah, its so tempting to order it!

The thing looks great. No options, but looks great. And it's XBAWKS HEUG!!!!

 Looky Likey wrote:
I'm actually going into Warhammer World today, gah, its so tempting to order it!

Best buy a new wallet while you're at it then lol.

Agreed and agreed again. FW, please put out a new 6mm Adeptus Titanicus game...

Or, you know, a 28mm adeptus titanicus rules set - if you can make a rules 'botl on' for kill team (which works very well), then something similar as a 'bolt on' for pure war engines would work too.

Essentially, it'd reduce enemy infantry to a type of dangerous terrain, but it'd be cool as hell to see. Especially if it made titan close combat weapons actually worth taking!

Wow, just wow. Just the other day I was wondering when FW would get around to doing a warlord titan.

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Wait is this supposed to be one of these, or are those the larger Emperor class titans? I thought it was a Warlord in Abnett's novel? In any case GW's sense of scale is all over the place, I mean I've seen the same Titans in that image being the same size of tenements, whilst in other art they're hundreds of times larger than a Leman Russ. Bleh.



What especially annoys me about Epic, even though I don't play GW games anymore, is that third parties are still making models for it. I remember seeing some of the new Space Marine tanks in Epic scale and they looked great. Eugh, typical GW business strategies. They'd rather stick with the same old systems and turtle instead of diversifying. How many people play games like Dropzone Commander? Apparently GW's fine with not having a slice of that cake anymore. *rants* =P

Imperators carry six Titan-class secondary weapons on their carapace. Given that those look like a battery of turbolasers each, I'd reckon they're warlords. The square-ish design would lead me to believe that those are Lucius-pattern Warlords, the same way we had the square-looking Warhounds before FW released the round-shaped Mars-pattern ones.

locarno24 wrote:
Or, you know, a 28mm adeptus titanicus rules set - if you can make a rules 'botl on' for kill team (which works very well), then something similar as a 'bolt on' for pure war engines would work too.

Essentially, it'd reduce enemy infantry to a type of dangerous terrain, but it'd be cool as hell to see. Especially if it made titan close combat weapons actually worth taking!

Thing is, you need space. An awful lot of space if you want 28mm Engine War. In the old Adeptus Titanicus game, weapons ranges were huge and the heavier the Titan was, the less manoeuvrable it was (unless you were Eldar of course). Positioning, facing and turn limitations were very important to the game. Warlords were slow and ponderous and could only make a limited amount of partial turns a turn depending on its orders. It also emphasised what Warhounds were good at - hunter killer out flankers. An old game I played years ago emphasised this. At one end of a battlefield an enemy Warlord was facing off against my Reaver. The Warlord was hull down behind a low building and was pummelling my Reaver somewhat. I managed to flank it with two Warhounds which were outside of its fire arcs and its limited movement meant that it would be hard pressed to draw a bead on my Warhounds without support. It tried to escape, but the Warhounds being a lot more manoeuvrable kept out of its fire arcs while I shot out its shield, blew its Volcano Cannon arm off and shorted out its Void Shield generators. It then blundered into my Reaver which hit its reactor and it went nuclear. Good times and hard to replicate at the current scale short of using the floor of the local church hall. Oh, and spending an inordinate amount of money on resin Titans

It's an impressive looking piece, but I'm quite disappointed by it - it's just a scaled up Knight, not a Warlord. Nothing in it screams out Warlord to me.

 farmersboy wrote:
It's an impressive looking piece, but I'm quite disappointed by it - it's just a scaled up Knight, not a Warlord. Nothing in it screams out Warlord to me.

Can't please everyone I guess. Looks amazing IMO.

zedmeister wrote:

Agreed and agreed again. FW, please put out a new 6mm Adeptus Titanicus game...

That would be amazing, wouldn't it. 30k epic... How cool.

Formosa wrote:
Yep at no point did I suggest dark angels are next, only that they have begun working on them, I even said based on my own conjecture that they are likely at least a year away, I am just excited that they have begun the work, hence the share.

If people don't like it, I don't care, I'm not a rumour monger and couldn't care less about such things, I'm just sharing the good news with my fellow hh enthusiasts, and please try to remember that the people that make these games are HUMAN and are allowed FRIENDS, the person never shares info with me normally but knew this would excite me, so told me for a change.

This isn't personal, I don't know you and I'm not trying to pick a fight. What I will say is that if you're going about saying people from FW told you stuff at WW and there were people from FW at WW, you could potentially land those people in very serious gak if there was validity to you claim. If you think this forum isn't read by people in the company at high level, you'd be wrong. Hypothetically.

If they'd been started on, with units named, rules proposed, primarch worked on as you suggest, then the holy trinity would know about it, that's Alan, Neil and Andy. Hypothetically they have not touched on Dark Angels at all and the most you might see are some shoulder pads/torsos etc knocked out at some stage, as those don't require the big sanction, but rules, names of units, whole unit figure releases etc, newp...

Oh wow. ~1300 GBP. I've paid less for my motorcycle. Who the hell buys these things?

 farmersboy wrote:
It's an impressive looking piece, but I'm quite disappointed by it - it's just a scaled up Knight, not a Warlord. Nothing in it screams out Warlord to me.

I thought that too, but if you have a look at the concept art image showing it scaled next to a Mars pattern Warhound and Reaver, it very definitely looks like a Mars pattern Warlord. There is obviously inspiration from the Mars-Pattern knight released in plastic, but if you see the three together its much better.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Really? I really like the head. Yeah there will anyway, this (quite awful) one will be a WHW exclusive and I assume there'll be more:

If I do buy one, I'll be ordering with that head. Because it's the proper Warlord head.

Yeahhh.. you won't. Can only get that head if you visit Warhammer World here in the UK.


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 Kosake wrote:
Oh wow. ~1300 GBP. I've paid less for my motorcycle. Who the hell buys these things?

People with more money than sense.

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Wait is this supposed to be one of these, or are those the larger Emperor class titans? I thought it was a Warlord in Abnett's novel? In any case GW's sense of scale is all over the place, I mean I've seen the same Titans in that image being the same size of tenements, whilst in other art they're hundreds of times larger than a Leman Russ. Bleh.



What especially annoys me about Epic, even though I don't play GW games anymore, is that third parties are still making models for it. I remember seeing some of the new Space Marine tanks in Epic scale and they looked great. Eugh, typical GW business strategies. They'd rather stick with the same old systems and turtle instead of diversifying. How many people play games like Dropzone Commander? Apparently GW's fine with not having a slice of that cake anymore. *rants* =P

Artistic scale in the art is all over the place. In models its even worse. Compare the size of Leman Russ sponsons to the same weapons wielded by Space Marine devastators or IG HWTs. The Heavy Bolters are way smaller. The hatches on most vehicles could never fit the occupants.

The Forgeworld titans are actually pretty accurately in cale with each other. The Warhound stands 10" tall, the Reaver 16" which matches their fluff specs. The Warlord is said to stand half as tall again as the Reaver, making it 8" taller in model scale. That model there stands 24". Its the smaller vehicles that are all out of scale, like Rhinos, Leman Russ and Land Raiders.