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 Lord Yayula wrote:
But weren't the Harlequins a choice in the eldar/dark eldar codexes, which later made a new "faction" with different harlequin units?

That is completely different from this, this is a use units from two different existing armies to gain some special rules, that sounds exactly like any End Times book.

Even the bundle, there are no new models at all contrary to the Harlequins but they actually fit with the bundles released for WHFB, which contained units from different armybooks like

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/The-Legion-of-Khorne-Web-Bundle

The Adeptus Mechanicus release after this one will probably follow the Harlequin pattern as it takes a completely new army into the game with new models and therefore new rules

The Harlequin Troupe, Shadowseer, and Death Jester were all in the Eldar book.
They still are in fact.

And continuously using End Times as an example isn't necessarily correct. The reason the End Times books were set up that way is that you're talking about multiple armies in their entirety being recycled. Spells, characters, magic items, and the army list as a whole.

It was easier(and more money for GW...) to require players to have all the books than it was to just cram the End Times books full of those items. And since you're not required to pull from all the books anyways, it would not necessarily have all been utilized.

Confirmations of the content of the Codex: KD is probably a week away when we will get first leaks. Archibald_TK has posted a bit more what is shown in the upcoming WD. The Lord of Skulls has a good chance of being in the Codex

Archibald_TK on Warseer

Ok guys, I know very few of what was written in that thread so spare me if it's redundant info but regarding the WD:

- The BT profiles in it are not from the Codex, they are for those who want to use them in a regular CD army. As such the rewards they have access are those from the CD Codex. So there may be slight differences in term of rules with those in the Khorne Codex.

- Someone asked about the Lord of Skulls I think? It is present multiple time in the WD, they even show its box so it's safe to assume it's in the codex.

So do we know yet if these BT variants can be summoned using posession?

It has been said that only the 'stock' Whip and Axe Bloodthirster can be summoned.

That hasn't been confirmed, but it is the most conservative approach. The issue is going to be this:

If (and it seems like this is nearly confirmed) the three variants of the bloodthirster dataslates replace the bloodthirster entry in codex: CD, then what are you able to summon when you get possession?

One answer says, "the same thing as before. Just the regular thirster, even though it is called something different now"

The other answer, "well a 'regular' bloodthirster no longer exists, since there are three entries for the same unit with essentially just different wargear. You can summon any of the three".

Unless GW clarifies this explicitly, this will be ambiguous at best. I have a sneaking feeling that they will do nothing to clarify it and we will get to house rule. Oh joy

 luke1705 wrote:
That hasn't been confirmed, but it is the most conservative approach. The issue is going to be this:

If (and it seems like this is nearly confirmed) the three variants of the bloodthirster dataslates replace the bloodthirster entry in codex: CD, then what are you able to summon when you get possession?

One answer says, "the same thing as before. Just the regular thirster, even though it is called something different now"

The other answer, "well a 'regular' bloodthirster no longer exists, since there are three entries for the same unit with essentially just different wargear. You can summon any of the three".

Unless GW clarifies this explicitly, this will be ambiguous at best. I have a sneaking feeling that they will do nothing to clarify it and we will get to house rule. Oh joy

I missed whatever said that they replaced the current Bloodthirster as an entry, from what I've seen and read it looks like only extra entries, leaving the Bloodthister as an entry un Codex Daemons even thou it is exactly the same as the 250 pts one

I believe these three are in addition to the base one.

So it says summon a "Bloodthirster"

Currently there is one entry thats just "Bloodthirster" but the rest contain "Bloodthirster" in their names.

Is the "Bloodthirster" in the Posession rule a general "Bloodthirster" or the specific"Bloodthirster"?

I believe this is a topic for YMDC once the book has landed and proven to lack clarification.

Yea sounds like a YMDC type of thread

The formation comming out of it sounds interesting though, apparently. A free bloodthirster for 8 of those Blood Tithe points, and points generating from units killed or your own units being destroyed

Never mind then!

Anything in those links that isn't already in this thread?

 Azreal13 wrote:
Anything in those links that isn't already in this thread?

Didn't look like it. Just the pics that we've seen.

I can't wait to see the rules for this and combine it with the Khorne themed Renegades list that has the rule that allows you to lay down blast templates even in CC and over your own units.

That Str D Bloodthirster is awful.... Why on earth would they give str D to a MC if hes going to be utterly useless when trying to utilize it?

Wraithknights will kill you before you get to strike, Knights will kill you before you get to strike + stomps. I just dont get it... What's it's purpose if not to distract bad players with "Str D is on the board" at the cost of an HQ slot and 275 + points?

Its killing Karnifexes I guess.... Maybe....GW Rules Writers, once again Im disappointed.

 GoliothOnline wrote:

Wraithknights will kill you before you get to strike,

That is extremely unlikely.

 GoliothOnline wrote:
That Str D Bloodthirster is awful.... Why on earth would they give str D to a MC if hes going to be utterly useless when trying to utilize it?

Wraithknights will kill you before you get to strike, Knights will kill you before you get to strike + stomps. I just dont get it... What's it's purpose if not to distract bad players with "Str D is on the board" at the cost of an HQ slot and 275 + points?

Its killing Karnifexes I guess.... Maybe....GW Rules Writers, once again Im disappointed.

In what universe does a wraithknight stand a chance against a Bloodthirster, even at I1?

For Feth's Sake, people...

No new Zerker Models..

Why Khorne? Why?!

Have I not shed enough Blood for the Blood God!?

[banging head on table]

At least I can mix the bits with the Chaos Marines to make better looking zerkers, just wish they'd at least include new backpacks for them or something...

I really like this cover

sure would be nice if the rules were as good as the artwork.

...sometimes, i like to dream, too.

Man that cover is amazing

Paying through the teeth for a new codex for every army combination that they can think up, with a newly reboxed bundle army, is getting too much.

 gigasnail wrote:
sure would be nice if the rules were as good as the artwork.

...sometimes, i like to dream, too.

Or even just the title...

 zachwho wrote:
Man that cover is amazing

Not very evil, though. I see a spiky armour, a flaky axe and a pair of pretty blue eyes.

Yup

After that last battle the champion spend the night crying

All that time being a favourite of Khorne and Tzeench sneeks in a boon and turns his sinister red glowing eyes a pretty blue

sob, the indignity

Has a bit of the plastic Aspiring Champion model vibe to it with the axe there.

Models look great, alleged rules Look great. Price point looks great.

I'll be adding it in to my collection!

Tsilber wrote:
Models look great, alleged rules Look great. Price point looks great.

I'll be adding it in to my collection!

Price point looks good as long as you don't add anything else :( For the boxed set I mean.

So tempting but like every other time, when I factor in the other stuff I would want to add it becomes like "HOW MUCH?!"

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Has a bit of the plastic Aspiring Champion model vibe to it with the axe there.

Its a reference to the Khorne Chaos Lord that seems went out of production after a few months. I guess it's time to paint mine. Same axe with a daemon face on it.

That cover is incredible. I do feel like I'd rather spend £30 on a nice framed copy of that than the codex though haha.