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**Redemption**

marneus41 from Warseer wrote:No pics, bu read the WD.

3 new plastic kits :

- Eldar Windriders : 3 new motojets with all the weapon choices available.

- Eldar Farseer Skyrunner : 1 eldar farseer or warlock (2 heads and 2 weapons choice).

- Eldar Autarch : no options

New codex of 160 pages with description of 11 craftworld (nothing about specific rules for them).

2 new specific psy discipline (battle runes and fate runes).

One FOC like the necron :

1-3 guardian hosts (3 types available)
0-3 Regent of the warhost (Heroes, seer council, living legends (avatar and phoenix lords))
1-12 formation for each guardian ost (outcasts, crimson death, dire avenger shrine, wraith host, aspect host, wraith-construct, engines of vaul)

Distorsion wepon = D-weapon.

CC weapon of the wraithknight is D weapon.

**Lythrandire Biehrellian**

Agreed on the jetbikes, they absolutely should be 4+

I was hoping for a superheavy walker, but adding some strD and gargantuan monstrous creature still makes me smile

Does it mention if there is any change to the suncannon, or the possible weapon load outs? I built a custom vehicle using the WK as a base, and was wondering g if I'd have to change it...

**ClassicCarraway**

Ravenous D wrote:
I predict my wraithguard army will be shelved, no 7th book has slot moving and since the Decurion business there has been no special detachments to accommodate all elite armies, instead we will get the mandatory Autarch and 3 other bad unit tax before you can take a wraithguard formation with spiritseer and wraithlord tax.

Serpent shield and laser lock are probably gone, Wraithcannons will probably be s8 cause they are just sooooo good, Jetbikes will be 4+ armour and wraithknights will have a points increase.

If you think nerfing eldar changes anything then you're wrong, they will just jump ship to Necrons, daemons or tau.

I wouldn't be surprised if they set up a "decurion-style" detachement for each craftworld, or at the very least, make the required formation for the detachment a choice between formations specific to each craftworld. For example, Craftword Detachment consists of 1+ primary formations (Saim-han, Ilyandan, Ulthwe, Beil-tan, etc), plus 1+ auxillery formations that could have any number of unit groupings that would fit any craftworld. The 0-1 Command formation would be the Seer Council naturally. Could be really cool if handled right.

Edit-NM, looks like somebody posted the actual detachment structure.

**Lythrandire Biehrellian**

Redemption wrote:
marneus41 from Warseer wrote:No pics, bu read the WD.

3 new plastic kits :

- Eldar Windriders : 3 new motojets with all the weapon choices available.

- Eldar Farseer Skyrunner : 1 eldar farseer or warlock (2 heads and 2 weapons choice).

- Eldar Autarch : no options

New codex of 160 pages with description of 11 craftworld (nothing about specific rules for them).

2 new specific psy discipline (battle runes and fate runes).

One FOC like the necron :

1-3 guardian hosts (3 types available)
0-3 Regent of the warhost (Heroes, seer council, living legends (avatar and phoenix lords))
1-12 formation for each guardian ost (outcasts, crimson death, dire avenger shrine, wraith host, aspect host, wraith-construct, engines of vaul)

Distorsion wepon = D-weapon.

CC weapon of the wraithknight is D weapon.

Wait, distortion weapons are str D!?!? Here come the artillery!!!

**pretre**

Cheap Farseer on JB
3 Jetbikes
3 Jetbikes
Wraithknight

Rinse, repeat.

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Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
Wait, distortion weapons are str D!?!? Here come the artillery!!!

I doubt it is all of them.

D weapon D-Scythes would be hilarious though.

**Orrus**

Looking at other forums to check out the latest 'news' has made it apparent that no one has any new information. Or at least no one has any evidence to back up the rumours.

Each site seems to be recycling rumours from the next.
The French forum has the same images we have already seen and someone stating 'facts' with no evidence. Are we really going to believe it just because its French?

**Bharring**

Swordwind and Spirit Host needs to run CAD, unless they are willing to run a bunch of Guardians?

Why do Guardians unlock DAs?

Also, I hope Wraith Scythes aren't SD! Aside from that, s10-> SD for non templates/blasts don't seem too horrible...

**ursvamp**

rollawaythestone wrote:
To bring them in line with every other Eldar jetbike variant (Harlequins, Dark Eldar, etc).

Actually, DE jetbikes are 5+ armor, Harlies 4+, (and Craftworlds 3+). They are in fact very different units (especially DE and CWE, with harlies being something in the middle), usage-wise, wargear-wise and weapon-wise. Even Stat-wise. There is not much reason to bring them more in line with one another!

**ClassicCarraway**

Redemption wrote:

One FOC like the necron :

1-3 guardian hosts (3 types available)
0-3 Regent of the warhost (Heroes, seer council, living legends (avatar and phoenix lords))
1-12 formation for each guardian ost (outcasts, crimson death, dire avenger shrine, wraith host, aspect host, wraith-construct, engines of vaul)

Distorsion wepon = D-weapon.

CC weapon of the wraithknight is D weapon.

Wait, ALL distort weapons are Destroyer now? I hope wraithguard got a hefty price hike, seeing as how they would have mass destroyer ranged and template weapons. I'm sure the WK will see a significant price hike.

**rollawaythestone**

Orrus wrote:
Looking at other forums to check out the latest 'news' has made it apparent that no one has any new information. Or at least no one has any evidence to back up the rumours.

Each site seems to be recycling rumours from the next.
The French forum has the same images we have already seen and someone stating 'facts' with no evidence. Are we really going to believe it just because its French?

No we aren't just supposed to believe it. But anytime now once we see pictures, we can confirm whether the french rules leaks are true or not. If they were true, we got the jump on thinking about them and getting excited about them.

**Yarium**

I'm hoping to get a formation that will let me take a Wraithknight on the cheap. I painted one to go alongside Unbound Harlequins before the Harlequin codex was ever even announced, but now that I have a codex, I'd like to make a Battle Forged list if I can!

**ursvamp**

ClassicCarraway wrote:
Wait, ALL distort weapons are Destroyer now? I hope wraithguard got a hefty price hike, seeing as how they would have mass destroyer ranged and template weapons. I'm sure the WK will see a significant price hike.

Remember these are leaks from the WD, not from the actual codex, which means that any rules mentioned are probably derived from WD-text, which has a small history of being both vague and sometimes inaccurate as to the rules in the actual book.

**SarisKhan**

The changes to Wraithknight sound great. Ranged D weapons are forbidden at the local tournaments where I play, but I actually wanted to use the Sword + Shield variant. Now that the sword is rumoured to be Strength D... well, time to piss your pants, Imperial Knights.

**ClassicCarraway**

Yarium wrote:
I'm hoping to get a formation that will let me take a Wraithknight on the cheap. I painted one to go alongside Unbound Harlequins before the Harlequin codex was ever even announced, but now that I have a codex, I'd like to make a Battle Forged list if I can!

You will probably have to pay a wraithlord tax most likely to take a WK as part of a formation.

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SarisKhan wrote:
The changes to Wraithknight sound great. Ranged D weapons are forbidden at the local tournaments where I play, but I actually wanted to use the Sword + Shield variant. Now that the sword is rumoured to be Strength D... well, time to piss your pants, Imperial Knights.

Hopefully they will price it accordingly. It would have to be more expensive than the Strength D bloodthirster at 275 points because A) it strikes at initiative, and B) its got +2 Toughness and +1 Wound.

**rollawaythestone**

Posted by Mr Maloke on Warseer:

Spoiler:

Also apparently Scatter Lasers no longer twin-link.

**Azreal13**

ClassicCarraway wrote:

SarisKhan wrote:
The changes to Wraithknight sound great. Ranged D weapons are forbidden at the local tournaments where I play, but I actually wanted to use the Sword + Shield variant. Now that the sword is rumoured to be Strength D... well, time to piss your pants, Imperial Knights.

Hopefully they will price it accordingly. It would have to be more expensive than the Strength D bloodthirster at 275 points because A) it strikes at initiative, and B) its got +2 Toughness and +1 Wound.

Plus has Stomp attacks and FNP and is essentially immune to ID.

**pretre**

Hey look, those folks who said new jetbikes five years ago are finally right.

**WrentheFaceless**

The leaks, its happening

**Azreal13**

pretre wrote:
Hey look, those folks who said new jetbikes five years ago are finally right.

Will they get a "True?"

**pretre**

Azreal13 wrote:
pretre wrote:
Hey look, those folks who said new jetbikes five years ago are finally right.

Will they get a "True?"

I'll look them over when the rest of the WD leaks so I don't have to do it multiple times.

**Grimskul**

nice to see the cone shaped heads of the old jetbike kit finally going the way of the dodo. Looks like they might get some special weapons options too given that one of those models look like they have an underslung scatter laser.

**Kanluwen**

Wow.

Thank God I'm broke from the Skitarii release.

**statu**

Is that a scatter laser on the back jetbike??

**Verviedi**

Scatter Lasers on Jetbikes?

**rollawaythestone**

Yeah, the source of the images said that Jetbikes get scatterlasers now. But scatterlasers got nerfed cause they no longer get laser lock.

**statu**

rollawaythestone wrote:
Yeah, the source of the images said that Jetbikes get scatterlasers now. But scatterlasers got nerfed cause they no longer get laser lock.

That's only really a nerf if it isn't included in the points

**rollawaythestone**

statu wrote:
rollawaythestone wrote:
Yeah, the source of the images said that Jetbikes get scatterlasers now. But scatterlasers got nerfed cause they no longer get laser lock.

That's only really a nerf if it isn't included in the points

True enough.

**angelofvengeance**

Ooo! Shiny. I like that Autarch.

**Nevelon**

statu wrote:
Is that a scatter laser on the back jetbike??

It looks like it. That’d be a change.

I wonder if they removed the option for the cannon?

**9unit9**

my internet is so crappy I cant view those images :-(

Grrrr