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I happened to spy on a GW Manager using his computer today. I saw a list of things to be removed from the shelves on Friday (assuming Friday evening).

The rule book
Starter set
ALL army books
All End times books
Movement trays

There was about 10 things on the list but that is all I can remember

 Death96 wrote:
I happened to spy on a GW Manager using his computer today. I saw a list of things to be removed from the shelves on Friday (assuming Friday evening).

The rule book
Starter set
ALL army books
All End times books
Movement trays

There was about 10 things on the list but that is all I can remember

Interesting. And unfortunate.

 Death96 wrote:
I happened to spy on a GW Manager using his computer today. I saw a list of things to be removed from the shelves on Friday (assuming Friday evening).

The rule book
Starter set
ALL army books
All End times books
Movement trays

There was about 10 things on the list but that is all I can remember

Here is a blog out there that is reporting the same thing. Heard from a seller:

http://raffazza.blogspot.com/2015/06/times-changin-get-ready-for-age-of.html

Same list as he had also including

•Movement trays
•Templates
•Deathknell watch

Well, if I'm restarting WoC, I'm glad I wouldn't need to start with the 8th rulebook first! This in fact IS good news (for me. Sorry for you other Schmuc-um, poor fellows).

Oh, no, I never bought the WFB 8E rulebook, and now it's gone... Whatever shall I do?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Oh, no, I never bought the WFB 8E rulebook, and now it's gone... Whatever shall I do?

Buy one of the kabillion and twelve of them that'll get dumped on ebay?
<Crisis averted. End Danger Room Simulation>

Sure, that works.

I'll pay shipping for the first person who wants to unload their worthless WFB 8E Rulebook (hardback slipcover only).

What is the reason with removing Deathknell Watch and the End times books, and to an extent the Starter boxes?? They just going to throw it in the streets and burn it? The End times books seemed like good reads, why would you not want those around anymore? They want anything with old rules gone?

Chopxsticks wrote:
What is the reason with removing Deathknell Watch and the End times books, and to an extent the Starter boxes?? They just going to throw it in the streets and burn it? The End times books seemed like good reads, why would you not want those around anymore? They want anything with old rules gone?

The whole thing is odd. I mean, I can still occasionally find Assault on Black Reach boxes, and starters are usually great little champions for the hobby.

There pulling the movement trays this week, dammit half my high elf army is on them, better go buy some more before the weekend. My OCD won't allow me to have half the army on them and half on MDF ones!

Everything I've heard this year make it feel like their killing the game I've been playing for 20+ years. I can't see how this is going to work out for them, their about to lose about a third of their customers overnight surely? They really will be a one trick pony with everything relying on 40K sales, which ain't been going so well.

 Tamereth wrote:
There pulling the movement trays this week, dammit half my high elf army is on them, better go buy some more before the weekend. My OCD won't allow me to have half the army on them and half on MDF ones!

Everything I've heard this year make it feel like their killing the game I've been playing for 20+ years. I can't see how this is going to work out for them, their about to lose about a third of their customers overnight surely? They really will be a one trick pony with everything relying on 40K sales, which ain't been going so well.

I sympathize, and feel for you and everyone in the same position. At the same time, though... I know ten folks willing to play whatever this new game is, with me, and that has me excited. I usually have an impossible task trying to rally players for anything other than 40k, so it excites me that this game, coming from GW, is instantly "big" enough, to justify buying models and knowing it will have a fair fighting chance to be good.

Sadly, I own too much, of too many, brilliant games that go untouched, because they don't meet "hobby shop critical mass".

HobbyBox wrote:

 Death96 wrote:
I happened to spy on a GW Manager using his computer today. I saw a list of things to be removed from the shelves on Friday (assuming Friday evening).

The rule book
Starter set
ALL army books
All End times books
Movement trays

There was about 10 things on the list but that is all I can remember

Here is a blog out there that is reporting the same thing. Heard from a seller:

http://raffazza.blogspot.com/2015/06/times-changin-get-ready-for-age-of.html

Same list as he had also including

•Movement trays
•Templates
•Deathknell watch

Movement trays and templates gone? Sounds like confirmation of skirmishhammer to me. And lack of army books bodes ill for anyone playing any or the armies who's futures are still up in he air.

I read somewhere -- I cannot recall where now -- there will be new movement trays that are compatible with both round and square bases. Am I dreaming this up, or something?

LotR Movement Trays.

If the movement trays aren't replaced then I think it confirms the skirmish game, if it is replaced then it will mean both mass and skirmish will be allowed I think.

So lets see what happens with these movement trays, unless we get evidence that states otherwise.

If Fantasy turns into a skirmish game and I can still use what I have for what ends up being the games Undead, and the rules are decent, I'll give it a go. It's all going to hinge on three things - lowering the model count drastically, making better rules, and not invalidating previous collections.

Hrm. Pulling the Isle of Blood boxes is a bummer. Those are the best sources for the nice Skaven Rat Ogres - which, coincidentally, make the best Dark Eldar Grotesques.

No! Plastic Swordmasters and Seaguard!

 Tamereth wrote:

Everything I've heard this year make it feel like their killing the game I've been playing for 20+ years. I can't see how this is going to work out for them, their about to lose about a third of their customers overnight surely? They really will be a one trick pony with everything relying on 40K sales, which ain't been going so well.

Yeah I would echo what you are saying here. Apart from the changes made at the start of 8th (random charges etc), WHFB has remained pretty steady for the 20+ years I have been playing it. I'd say there will be a substantial fall off in existing players once 9th hits. For me the critical aspect is where they go with the fluff. I think it will be a challenge after they blew up the world and a horde of existing characters and places, but if it is decent then there could be a large buy in from existing players.

I suppose these items may just be going direct only rather than being pulled altogether.

Would be odd for the vampire counts soft cover army book to be removed from sale mere weeks after it's release.

Talys wrote:I read somewhere -- I cannot recall where now -- there will be new movement trays that are compatible with both round and square bases. Am I dreaming this up, or something?

No, but someone else did. It was pure speculation (wishlisting, even) following the round base rumour.

This is certainly looking like the more "extreme" rumours were accurate. I wonder what the final result will look like.

Chopxsticks wrote:
What is the reason with removing Deathknell Watch and the End times books, and to an extent the Starter boxes?? They just going to throw it in the streets and burn it? The End times books seemed like good reads, why would you not want those around anymore? They want anything with old rules gone?

I can't answer for the reason, but you're not far off with what'll happen to the stock. They will destroy it.

 Tamereth wrote:
There pulling the movement trays this week, dammit half my high elf army is on them, better go buy some more before the weekend. My OCD won't allow me to have half the army on them and half on MDF ones!

Ditto. Unless they've raised the price dramatically, the movement tray kit always felt like one of the better priced 'accessory' items from GeeDub. You have to do quite a bit of work filling gaps and cleaning them up - and you could obviously just make your own from scratch for a fraction of the cost - but the end result is really solid.

Anyway, should probably go stock up, for 8.5E and all that

- Salvage

 -Loki- wrote:
If Fantasy turns into a skirmish game and I can still use what I have for what ends up being the games Undead, and the rules are decent, I'll give it a go. It's all going to hinge on three things - lowering the model count drastically, making better rules, and not invalidating previous collections.

I wish you luck on the making better rules.

aAl of the codices??? I bought wood elf one and havent even used it!

 Rune Stonegrinder wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
If Fantasy turns into a skirmish game and I can still use what I have for what ends up being the games Undead, and the rules are decent, I'll give it a go. It's all going to hinge on three things - lowering the model count drastically, making better rules, and not invalidating previous collections.

I wish you luck on the making better rules.

They have them... or at least the frame-work for them. A marriage between LotR and WHFB would work really well if they embrace the strengths of both.

 Swastakowey wrote:
If the movement trays aren't replaced then I think it confirms the skirmish game, if it is replaced then it will mean both mass and skirmish will be allowed I think.

So lets see what happens with these movement trays, unless we get evidence that states otherwise.

The question is WHICH movement trays.

Because there are the "Modular Movement Trays" and the "War of the Rings Cavalry Trays"(which are now "NO LONGER AVAILABLE").






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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
What is the reason with removing Deathknell Watch and the End times books, and to an extent the Starter boxes?? They just going to throw it in the streets and burn it? The End times books seemed like good reads, why would you not want those around anymore? They want anything with old rules gone?

I can't answer for the reason, but you're not far off with what'll happen to the stock. They will destroy it.

Oh it'll be destroyed.

I can see the End Times books going, if they were in fact what a lot of people suspected and a way to "showcase" new rules for WHFB.

Boss Salvage wrote:Unless they've raised the price dramatically, the movement tray kit always felt like one of the better priced 'accessory' items from GeeDub.

Kanluwen wrote:there are the "Modular Movement Trays"

Hrm, looks like they're $6.50 more than when I last bought some (like 1-2 years ago). I may have just been priced out, just in time too

If things are swapping over to round bases + square trays with round slots, I look forward to all those MDF peeps laser cutting me some trays. I mean ... if I play 9E. And stuff. *makes a pouty face, kicks a random square base*

- Salvage

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
What is the reason with removing Deathknell Watch and the End times books, and to an extent the Starter boxes?? They just going to throw it in the streets and burn it? The End times books seemed like good reads, why would you not want those around anymore? They want anything with old rules gone?

I can't answer for the reason, but you're not far off with what'll happen to the stock. They will destroy it.

My mate's uncle used to work at GW, and when they threw stock out, he'd keep some of it bring it home lol.