Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan

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**Desubot**

agnosto wrote:
So the end times poster in the display case means nothing?

Nothing at all

**Daston**

Not gone through all the posts as there seems to be many since I last checked this thread.

However has anyone posted this image?

Hex base looks way better than both square and round. If true it suggests ranking up is still the norm (so square bases are still OK) and with 45 degrees of movement will make ranking easier too.

**Thunderfrog**

Oooh.

Hex bases? I could go for that I think.

**streamdragon**

It's not that I think it's fake, but I mean, there's even a square base ON THE SPRUE.

Edit: plus if you look at the package, it's clearly been opened already.

**Daston**

streamdragon wrote:
It's not that I think it's fake, but I mean, there's even a square base ON THE SPRUE.

Edit: plus if you look at the package, it's clearly been opened already.

Ahh can see the knife mark now that you mention it.

However I think GW will just do exactly that if the bases change, can't see them redesigning the moulds on characters to remove the square base.

**A Town Called Malus**

Well, the Dark Elf sorceress does come with the sculpted base.

I can't see GW switching to a hex base. Round bases? Possibly as they already have everything they need.

**d-usa**

I could see them switch to hex bases just to feth with third party bases.

**Hulksmash**

Why? If they are rebasing why go thru the trouble of doing a new kind of base. When it came to 40k the 32mm rounds make more sense aesthetically for certain 40k armies and fit the theme. And if some people want to rebase they can. If you're going to make people rebase regardless why spend the money on hex molds? Not like a 2 month jump on 3rd party customs (which people will wait for if they want it) is going to be huge sales...

**Desubot**

Hulksmash wrote:
Why? If they are rebasing why go thru the trouble of doing a new kind of base. When it came to 40k the 32mm rounds make more sense aesthetically for certain 40k armies and fit the theme. And if some people want to rebase they can. If you're going to make people rebase regardless why spend the money on hex molds? Not like a 2 month jump on 3rd party customs (which people will wait for if they want it) is going to be huge sales...

Makes people buy new bases.

Feths 3rd parties

Fethin brilliant!

**Vulcan**

Desubot wrote:
agnosto wrote:
So the end times poster in the display case means nothing?

Nothing at all

This is GW we're talking about, after all.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

GW has hex bases, the used them in the dim and distant past for their AD&D range (and maybe Judge Dredd and Paranoia)

so producing them would not cost anything,

although I don't think the image is genuine

**d-usa**

Didn't some of their flying stuff used to come on hex?

**pretre**

d-usa wrote:
Didn't some of their flying stuff used to come on hex?

Old Eldar Jetbikes had bubble hex bases.

**JohnHwangDD**

pretre wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Didn't some of their flying stuff used to come on hex?

Old Eldar Jetbikes had bubble hex bases.

Ohh..... Those were a VERY long time ago. RT era. Since mid-2E, GW switched over.

**Bull0**

HobbyBox wrote:
Looking at the pics again, seems like they are making a few Mordheim armies and putting them on round bases. Skaven, Dwarves, one group had about 3-4 Witch Hunters, which fits one of the factions in that game. Another guy looks like a merchant which IIRC is used in one of the factions as well.

That's the best explanation for what this is, I think. "40k army". looool

Hex bases would certainly be an interesting turn of events, and I can see it mixing up the gameplay significantly... we'll see.

**d-usa**

pretre wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Didn't some of their flying stuff used to come on hex?

Old Eldar Jetbikes had bubble hex bases.

That's right, they were clear. Now I remember.

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
GW has hex bases, the used them in the dim and distant past for their AD&D range (and maybe Judge Dredd and Paranoia)

so producing them would not cost anything,

although I don't think the image is genuine

I relaly doubt they still have the mold tools for those hex bases, so no, it would cost quite a bit to get new ones. They haven't done AD&D for...what? 25 years? Over 30 years? Since before I was born, probably.

**Vermis**

Desubot wrote:

Makes people buy new bases.

Feths 3rd parties

Fethin brilliant!

Hex bases would sooo mess up third parties.

http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/MINIAATURES_BASES.html
http://fenrisgames.com/shop#!/~/search/keywords=hex&offset=0&sort=relevance
https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/hex%20base

Not that I think that pic is genuine myself, either.

**JohnHwangDD**

It wouldn't hurt Heavy Gear.

And really, hexes look awful.

Circles look best, followed by squares that rank up.

**Zwan1One**

Ugh. Hex bases are the worst! Really hope that they really aren't the way forward. Square or round are far better both in looks a playability.

**B. Buck**

Just a quick thought I had today, maybe ninth edition will be the first edition of a new game that we will know as Warhammer: Age of Sigmar. It would tie in with Warhammer: 40,000 and I suppose would help give them an overall branding that makes sense with the renaming of stores to Warhammer from Games Workshop?

**RiTides**

Oh man, someone probably had fun making that image and trolling all of us

(even if I think it'd be cool)

**StormKing**

Is it July 4th yet?
I want to order whatever is coming out! So excited!

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Oh and also I'm not opposed to round bases if there is a skirmish style game.

I might make my empire army into a little narrative warband. I'm not one for creating fluff behind my armies but I really want to be able to play a fun narrative campaign with smaller armies...even in a skirmish style it would be perfect

I still won't change any of my 7000 points of skaven onto round bases...its not worth it I want ranks upon ranks of little ratties!!!! Moooorrreeee vermin!!!

**Seneca**

Daston wrote:
Not gone through all the posts as there seems to be many since I last checked this thread.

However has anyone posted this image?

Hex base looks way better than both square and round. If true it suggests ranking up is still the norm (so square bases are still OK) and with 45 degrees of movement will make ranking easier too.

Someone on Warseer posted that pic. It is Photoshopd, and was meant as a joke when the alleged pictures of round bases in a Fantasy order emergerd.

**monders**

If that is a PS job, it's fantastic work. More likely some rogue with steady hand and a very sharp blade!

I can't see where they've cut, but I tend to hack at my blister packs with heavy duty scissors so finesse isn't one of my attributes!

**RoninXiC**

To come back to the possible future of WH F ...
I mean, I wouldn't mind a GOOD and AFFORDABLE smaller scale (not skirmish) "post apocalyptic" fantasy game with magic and gak.
Post apocalyptic usually goes in the mad max direction, which is fine, but post apocalyptic fantasy is surprisingly rare.

But it will cost a million dollars, have bad writing, even worse rules and overall a big failure... It's GW.

**Da Boss**

monders wrote:
If that is a PS job, it's fantastic work. More likely some rogue with steady hand and a very sharp blade!

I can't see where they've cut, but I tend to hack at my blister packs with heavy duty scissors so finesse isn't one of my attributes!

Photoshop was probably to cover the cut, rather than to put the base in. I can tell because of the pixels, you see.

**Herzlos**

agnosto wrote:
ntdars wrote:

I couldn't see GW removing so many awesome plastic kits though, especially ones like Dwarves that are still relatively new

Well, we're talking about a company that made plastic sprues for one event and has not sold them since. Also, the End Times stuff is all really new and is being pulled according to some.

Quite a few companies have made single run plastic sprues for events (like Salute) or occasions (I've got a few LE Malifaux mini's in plastic). With cheaper aluminium moulding you can get a short production run for a reasonable price now.

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Desubot wrote:
Hulksmash wrote:
Why? If they are rebasing why go thru the trouble of doing a new kind of base. When it came to 40k the 32mm rounds make more sense aesthetically for certain 40k armies and fit the theme. And if some people want to rebase they can. If you're going to make people rebase regardless why spend the money on hex molds? Not like a 2 month jump on 3rd party customs (which people will wait for if they want it) is going to be huge sales...

Makes people buy new bases.

Feths 3rd parties

Fethin brilliant!

For all of about an hour, then they'd have their range remoulded into hexes. They could probably still get them shipping out before GW's pre-release.

**Wonderwolf**

agnosto wrote:

And that's the real problem here. A reboot is fine, may even be a good thing, but if the only voices out in the wild are negative, you open yourself up to people running away and not coming back. GW fails again and again to even grasp the most rudimentary concepts behind marketing and advertising which is surprising from a company that wants to sale people something.

"Hey everybody, something will come out in July and we're calling it the 'Age of Sigmar' but that's all we're going to tell anyone, even the people that we expect to sell it."

GW Rep:"How many copies of Age of Sigmar do you want to order?"
Store Owner: "What is it?"
GW Rep: "We can't tell you until the pre-release, a week before the release."
Store Owner: "Then how can I know that it's worth selling? How am I supposed to build anticipation for the product and get my customers excited about it if you won't even tell me what it is?"
GW Rep: "C'mon guy, it's us, you know it's all good."
Store Owner: "You said the same thing with Dreadfleet..."
GW Rep: "So, I can put you down for 50 copies?"
Store Owner: "Is it a book? A board game? Models? What is it?"
GW Rep: "Look, I told you that we can't tell you that until the week before.....hello? hello? I must have lost the connection."

I strongly doubt that.

GW Rep: "Do you like selling Space Marines?"
Store Owner: "Yeah!"
GW Rep: " Do you think you can keep your store afloat on Warmachine alone?"
Store Owner: "Umm .. unlikely ..."
GW Rep: "Great, So I'll put you down for 50 boxes of Age of Sigmar, fantastic."
Store Owner: "But ... what? ... never heard of it! ... damn, hang up on me again."

GW is just too used to being the top dog, and it probably still works often enough for them to not feel the need to change (as well as simply getting rid of uppity trade partners and funneling more sales through their online store).

**Herzlos**

It rarely works like that any more; more stores are dropping/marginalizing GW than seem to be taking them up.
5 years ago you'd be correct - no mini's based gaming store would survive without GW, but now it's not the case.

Particularly in Oz, I've heard of stores that have managed to strike up pretty good deals with GW in terms of freebies in order to be displayed.

GW Rep: "Do you like selling Space Marines?"
Store Owner: "To an extent"
GW Rep: " Do you think you can keep your store afloat on Warmachine alone?"
Store Owner: "Easily"
GW Rep: "Oh, so how many boxes of Age of Sigmar will I put you down for?."
Store Owner: "Until I know what it is, none."