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2015/06/21 21:08:47
Subject: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
Sad thing, I believe that the leaks that GW used to complain about did more to advertise their releases than GW themselves ever did.... So GW shut them down.
The Auld Grump
Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
2015/06/21 21:29:12
Subject: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
Actually some of the divergent chatter has been interesting, and its still a good place for any leaks, new info that comes to light and for it to be discussed.
So my request was a polite lets not spam this to death eh? ...or at least go find or start a thread discussing the implications over in Warhammer General.
"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
2015/06/21 23:33:39
Subject: Re:Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
If there is no new news or rumors to report or discuss, then it is OK to not post anything
Let's let this thread die down if there is nothing new to talk about, so that it can remain open and ready for the moment the cat gets out of the bag...
Thanks!
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2015/06/23 03:09:31
Subject: Re:Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
I heard 70 lb, 110 dollars. And that is 3rd hand info from friend friend of...someone in UK unknown to me. In line with other GW sets, but IMHO, still high for a 'Starter'.
....and lo!.....The Age of Sigmar came to an end when Saint Veetock and his hamster legions smote the false Sigmar and destroyed the bubbleverse and lead the true believers back to the Old World.
2015/06/23 07:25:06
Subject: Re:Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
I heard 70 lb, 110 dollars. And that is 3rd hand info from friend friend of...someone in UK unknown to me. In line with other GW sets, but IMHO, still high for a 'Starter'.
By way of comparison, Dropzone Commander is £60 and Star Wars Armada is £80.
I heard 70 lb, 110 dollars. And that is 3rd hand info from friend friend of...someone in UK unknown to me. In line with other GW sets, but IMHO, still high for a 'Starter'.
By way of comparison, Dropzone Commander is £60 and Star Wars Armada is £80.
Yeah but you know what you are getting with those - BORING!
The extra money is for all the extra GW Surprisium the box will contain.
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2015/06/23 08:26:59
Subject: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
To be honest, £70 isn't ridiculously priced for a starter. - Particularly if it is a 'full game in a box' experience, or it has all new sculpts.
I think FFG still hold the 'ridiculous price for a starter' award with Star Wars Armada, which is literally half a game in there. - Conversely, their Imperial Assault set for the same price, is basically 2 games, one of which is a fully fleshed out campaign system that you could entirely possibly play every week for a year and still experience new things from.
2015/06/23 08:31:11
Subject: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
Compel wrote: To be honest, £70 isn't ridiculously priced for a starter. - Particularly if it is a 'full game in a box' experience, or it has all new sculpts.
I think FFG still hold the 'ridiculous price for a starter' award with Star Wars Armada, which is literally half a game in there. -
Well, I think that particular price must go to Corvus Belli, which only ship you 14 unpainted, mono-pose 80s-style pewter miniatures and a crappy paper posters of the quality you wouldn't dare put into the cheapest kind of titty-magazine for their starter for nearly the same price.
At least the FFGs stuff is painted miniatures, loads of cards cards, tokens, dials, range-measure-thingy in high quality, etc.., etc.. Still expensive.
2015/06/23 08:40:57
Subject: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
Compel wrote: To be honest, £70 isn't ridiculously priced for a starter. - Particularly if it is a 'full game in a box' experience, or it has all new sculpts.
I think FFG still hold the 'ridiculous price for a starter' award with Star Wars Armada, which is literally half a game in there. -
Well, I think that particular price must go to Corvus Belli, which only ship you 14 unpainted, mono-pose 80s-style pewter miniatures and a crappy paper posters of the quality you wouldn't dare put into the cheapest kind of titty-magazine for their starter for nearly the same price.
At least the FFGs stuff is painted miniatures, loads of cards cards, tokens, dials, range-measure-thingy in high quality, etc.., etc.. Still expensive.
Painted miniatures isn't necessarily a good thing for everyone in this hobby. And while there aren't many minis in Operation: Icestorm, the quality of them is amazing, and you hardly need anymore for a proper sized force.
2015/06/23 08:43:28
Subject: Re:Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
I heard 70 lb, 110 dollars. And that is 3rd hand info from friend friend of...someone in UK unknown to me. In line with other GW sets, but IMHO, still high for a 'Starter'.
That's pretty reasonable. I thought it'd be at least £75-80.
2015/06/23 08:48:53
Subject: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
Painted miniatures isn't necessarily a good thing for everyone in this hobby. And while there aren't many minis in Operation: Icestorm, the quality of them is amazing, and you hardly need anymore for a proper sized force.
Painted minis might not be what you're looking for, but it's a cost I can see going into a box. As is a Star Wars license. Don't want it? Fair enough. But I can see the cost.
14 metal minis, mono-pose with no options don't justify more than 20 quid max. Whatever the game rules may or may not be. Just like you might not care about pre-paints, not everyone might care about the rules. What if I want to use them to proxy a 40KApoc game? What if I am only a painter? Etc..
Mini-for-mini-for-quality, Operation Icestorm is far, far, far and away the worst "deal" on the starter-set market.
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2015/06/23 08:57:40
Subject: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
Because it's a starter set, to get people started in the game. Of course rules are important. Obviously you might get less value if you're using it for something other than its purpose.
2015/06/23 09:06:02
Subject: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
ImAGeek wrote: Because it's a starter set, to get people started in the game. Of course rules are important. Obviously you might get less value if you're using it for something other than its purpose.
Oh. That's right. Unlike every other starter-box on the market, Operation Icestorm doesn't even give you the full rules of the game!!! Lol! What a fantastic way to get started!
2015/06/23 09:09:13
Subject: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
Anybody saying that they will pay no more than £20 for 14 metal models of the highest quality is talking custard. In my totally subjective opinion, naturally. Anyway, £70 for a GW starter would seem suspiciously acceptable. I mean, the Assassins thing was more than that. But I suspect that GW (along with most every other company) is trying hard to keep starters within the price range that people would be happy to buy one and split it with a friend.
2015/06/23 09:35:15
Subject: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition Rumors - Age of Sigmar preorder coming on July 4th
If Infinity is so great at miniatures, it shouldn't be a big problem for them to put some 25 to 30 or so multi-part plastic miniatures into a 65 - 75 quid starter set, including some dreadnought-sized guys (TAGs), as well as maybe a deadzone style rubber mat, some hard plastic terrain and a 40K-style complete mini-rulebook of N3.
If you don't need that many minis for the game, just put in 4 or 5 factions.
It's not rocket science people ask of Corvus Belli. The above would put them roughly into the mid-field of "normal" starter sets of the kind you get for DZC, 40K, etc.., etc.. , and from there they could let their quality speak for themselves.