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 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Yeah, yeah, yeah we get it--they look like Marines.

Yeah, yeah, yeah we get it--they're super great.

Or maybe people are tired of the spammy posts.

Go make a thread elsewhere for jokes.

 OneManNoodles wrote:


Also why the hell Khorne? It seems rather unimaginative from them by now and wouldn't undivided have been better?

Because GW has ALWAYS had Khorne as its first love when it comes to chaos. Nurgle gets to be a distant runner up, and they barely even think about the others.

 AduroT wrote:

 mikhaila wrote:
Well, supposedly I get answers tomorrow.

Price, contents, etc And 'answers to all questions'.

Then I get to decide whether its a weekend long party and ordering in a 100 copies, or focusing on the Origins pre release and tossing two copies of a boardgame out for sale No information makes planning suck.

It astounds me they're trying to put this release up against a MtG set prerelease. We're certainly not going to try to run a GW event for fantasy on that day, Magic dominates Way to hard.

GW refuses to accept they actually have competition. They really are there own worst enemy.

I wonder though if AoS fails if GW will then rush out a new edition of classic Warhammer or just scrap all of it.

 Crimson Devil wrote:


I wonder though if AoS fails if GW will then rush out a new edition of classic Warhammer or just scrap all of it.

I dont think they have room to fail here.

 Silent Puffin? wrote:


WHFB has been all but dead to me since 8th (I started in 4th) and AOS will almost certainly switch off the life support machine; its highly likely that Warhammer:Total War will be my last ever Warhammer related purchase. Its not as if I need another wargame at the moment anyway.

These kind of statements show that GW can safely disregard the fan base and just start something new -from a bussiness perspective that is.
I know they have them self to blame for lacluster suport of the fantasy scene, but still, I see alot of fanatsy players upset about this "new direction", but at the same time they claim they are not active consumers or even players, and dont want anything to change.

For GW, there is no players, only customers.

In The very first war game I think marbles were rolled at figures the ones that got knocked over were out.


So maybe we will see something just as deep in 4 pages here.

migooo wrote:

In The very first war game I think marbles were rolled at figures the ones that got knocked over were out.


So maybe we will see something just as deep in 4 pages here.

Bigger weapons = bigger marbles

Crimson Devil wrote:
GW refuses to accept they actually have competition. They really are there own worst enemy.

I wonder though if AoS fails if GW will then rush out a new edition of classic Warhammer or just scrap all of it.

Well whereas Mantic consults with its community regarding the rules for Kings of War (which I don't play but am looking into big time), GW ignores the WHFB community with a wall of silence before this new AoS release. Ok, so WHFB was supposed to be selling badly and had self inflicted problems but it could easily have been fixed by redressing some of the mistakes of the past 5-10 years and making the existing game more attractive to both its existing players in addition to new gamers.

If AoS does fail it is unlikely they will release another new edition seeing as how they have basically just scrapped the old WHFB (lore, game dynamics, books)

Fayric wrote:
These kind of statements show that GW can safely disregard the fan base and just start something new -from a bussiness perspective that is.
I know they have them self to blame for lacluster suport of the fantasy scene, but still, I see alot of fanatsy players upset about this "new direction", but at the same time they claim they are not active consumers or even players, and dont want anything to change.

For GW, there is no players, only customers.

Well I'm an active consumer of the current fantasy range with dozens of boxes still to open. Bought all the End Times hardback books, several boxsets for that range and have at least 5-6 valid armies all ranked up in nice square bases.

I am one of these 'upset' players you speak of and I dislike the 'new direction' from what I have seen so far. I am willing to wait to see whether AoS is a new game and whether a true Warhammer game based on properly ranked up units will come out in the next few months (clutching at straws here really). Obviously thing's are not looking good right now but we can always hope

 Death By Monkeys wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Wonderwolf wrote:

 obleeke wrote:
Gotta love the weapons variety for those sigmarines. You can choose between a hammer, hammer and shield, two hammers, or a big hammer

Surely you mean Sigmarian Hurricane Hammers and Sigmaritarian Lightning Shields of Stormy Electrocution.

+1 hammer of hammering.
Can cast hammertime.

5th Ed - HeroHammer
6th Ed - CavalryHammer
7th Ed - BlockHammer
8th Ed - HeroHammer
9th Ed - HammerHammer

Haha! Exalted!

I'm really nonplussed by those pictures. The hero for the Sigmarites looks awesome but the rest look really bland. I'm reserving judgement for now, though.

 Fayric wrote:
I see alot of fantasy players upset about this "new direction", but at the same time they claim they are not active consumers or even players, and dont want anything to change.

I see what you are saying but I would counter that experienced players who are already invested in the game are a much safer demographic to aim for. Scrapping the 25+ years of history and starting essentially from scrath is extremely risky.

I have spent literally £thousands on WHFB over the years and I am perfectly capable of spending £hundreds more if I had any interest in doing so; I still like the Old World and its Hammer Horror Schlock.

I most certainly want change, as I said I am no longer a player, although I am having a hard time imagine a worse change as the ones we are apparently getting.

There was also a sense of reliability in WFB that's now gone - like it or not, it has at least been a thing that exists and gets supported (badly or not, it's still supported) so while the costs were high you could buy in knowing it would go on to be a thing for a while - it'd been a thing for like, 30 years - but now who can say? I don't have any confidence that "Age of Sigmar" will still be a thing in a year or two. Most if not all of GW's new games are one-offs, and most would assume this will be too - it's only the removal of WFB rulebooks from sale that suggests otherwise.

 obleeke wrote:
Gotta love the weapons variety for those sigmarines. You can choose between a hammer, hammer and shield, two hammers, or a big hammer

In the grimdark future of the bubblehammer millennium.... there is only WARhammers.


They sure are trying to drive the 'hammer' home, though.

The logical course of action would be to make something for both the vets and new players. Take the starter boxset for example, if it had a full rulebook it would give veterans incentive to buy it as well as newbies. They would get a full rulebook to play with their existing armies and the starts of two new armies to buy miniatures for. (I.e. Every starter box before this).

Instead the box only appeals to beginners or people wanting to start either army.

If they are trying to make the game more accesable for new players, they also just shot themselves in the foot because now the newbie has to buy a £75 starter set AND a £50 hardback rulebook as soon as they exhaust the possibilities of the 4 page rules sheet.

I'm no fan of fantasy. I do have to say though that this age of sigmar has me interested. Not in the marine ones but in chaos. I'd grab a box or two just to get the chaos stuff

I have always hated the sigmar style hammers. The vast majority are so unrealistically huge and stupid I can't take them seriously at all. Whats worse is that every fething model in that faction has a clown hammer, some two, and one is wielding one with so much mass and ornate crap on it, it would make Harley Quin blush.

Internet cookie to whomever paints their Sigmarines like Timmy Mallett.

The chaos figs look interesting, but those Sigmar dudes look terrible.

I'd thought this might be the box set to get, to check out warhammer. Nope.

Prestor Jon wrote:

 The Shadow wrote:
At the risk of scaremongering, I really don't like the look of this latest leak.

The biggest fear I've always had for 9th is that it would essentially be "40k with bows and arrows". The transition to round bases, the introduction of space marine-esque models (however nice) and the introduction of what looks very similar to jump/jet pack infantry (top of first picture), only helps to grow these fears.

I'll be happy if there's a mode where I can still use my hundreds of square-based models in larger battles, even if it's a ruleset where I have to house rule to scale it up,or where the battles are slightly smaller.

This, however, just looks like 40k, and that doesn't surprise me, really, considering how this release is supposed to be bringing new people into the game. I think we can wave goodbye to charge arcs, reforms and a movement phase that is different and far more tactical than 40k, and say hello to a style that is very similar, if not identical, to the run/shoot/assault of 40k.

Agreed.

I don't see how you could incorporate AoS into a scaled up mass battle game. AoS has Sigmarite forces in units of 3 or 5 models all on (32mm?) round bases. If the units start that small it would be a big investment to buy enough unit boxes to create a large army. The Khorne force does have marauders in 10 man squads so at least those units are bigger but I don't see how you'd incorporate the new models on round bases with blocks of existing marauders on square bases. Sure its not impossible but it strikes me that making hobbyists do the extra work to meld existing army core troops with the new version is GWs not so subtle way to push everyone into starting over again

I wouldn't mind them doing something War of the Ring-esque, with the round bases slotting into round base movement trays, with units following a ruleset/movement more similar to what it currently is. You then could - more or less - simply use your existing square base models in their own movement trays, in a (hopefully) more or less similar game,

pancakeonions wrote:
The chaos figs look interesting, but those Sigmar dudes look terrible.

I'd thought this might be the box set to get, to check out warhammer. Nope.

To each their own I suppose. I'm not a big fan of the Sigmar Infantry, but the special infantry, that giant cat, and those angels, just damn!

 Avrik_Shasla wrote:

pancakeonions wrote:
The chaos figs look interesting, but those Sigmar dudes look terrible.

I'd thought this might be the box set to get, to check out warhammer. Nope.

To each their own I suppose. I'm not a big fan of the Sigmar Infantry, but the special infantry, that giant cat, and those angels, just damn!

Funny, my first impression was the same thing. The chaos reminded me of electro priests meets cultists The angels and big cat were a win for me, too.

I am honestly going to get two of the kits. If the kit comes with all those miniatures I am going to have a field day.

I know there may be a lot of different opinions, but I am a total fan of this set and I must say it's one of the best things GW has put out for a while. They needed a quick skirmish game to take on Warmahordes, and they may pull it off with this release, if the rules are good that is.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Yeah, yeah, yeah we get it--they look like Marines.

Yeah, yeah, yeah we get it--they're super great.

Or maybe people are tired of the spammy posts.

Go make a thread elsewhere for jokes.

Jokes are actually funny.

migooo wrote:

In The very first war game I think marbles were rolled at figures the ones that got knocked over were out.


So maybe we will see something just as deep in 4 pages here.

I had a game like that when I was a kid.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

migooo wrote:

In The very first war game I think marbles were rolled at figures the ones that got knocked over were out.


So maybe we will see something just as deep in 4 pages here.

Bigger weapons = bigger marbles

And/Or more marbles

 Grimtuff wrote:

migooo wrote:

In The very first war game I think marbles were rolled at figures the ones that got knocked over were out.


So maybe we will see something just as deep in 4 pages here.

I had a game like that when I was a kid.

Spoiler:

You know I had those too. I still lament the loss of my flying eyeball monster.

I personally am more a fan of spring-loaded missiles.

http://essexmodelsandminiatures.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Robogear11.jpg

Monster in my Pocket was awesome!

I had the big display thing too.

In the new Warhammer Universe, is Chaos getting Harry the Hammer back?

Not really a Khorne fan at the moment but I can see this set being popular, was about time warhammer had a bit of a make over too in my opinion, it wont make me suddenly want to buy it but theres plenty out there that will.

Talys wrote:When I first saw it, I actually thought "World of Warcraft" much more than space marines.

Seconded -Scruffy

Bottle wrote:Something tells me that the Sigmarines are going to be dirt cheap on eBay. GW wanted to make a shiny new faction to draw in new players, but they ended up getting out shined by the new Chaos :-p

I doubt it, most retails on ebay are still asking near retail for a lot of things, the price might seem lower but they jack the shipping up well over what the shipping will actually cost to cover.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Wonderwolf wrote:

 obleeke wrote:
Gotta love the weapons variety for those sigmarines. You can choose between a hammer, hammer and shield, two hammers, or a big hammer

Surely you mean Sigmarian Hurricane Hammers and Sigmaritarian Lightning Shields of Stormy Electrocution.

+1 hammer of hammering.
Can cast hammertime.

It makes the enemy 'Stop'

Grimtuff wrote:

migooo wrote:

In The very first war game I think marbles were rolled at figures the ones that got knocked over were out.


So maybe we will see something just as deep in 4 pages here.

I had a game like that when I was a kid.

Spoiler:

You mean Weapons and Warriors?


Which I had the pirate version and it was a FANTASTIC game. And it's scaled to GW very well.