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I forgot to comment how hilarious it is that the Sigmarine, err, Stormcast Eternal, dice thing is BIGGER!!1!one than the Khorne one. They're truly going all-in trying to make them the Space Marine faction

PS: Favourite AoS model so far*? I have to say I looove the, urgh, "Bloodsecrator". I'm bidding on a second one and bits ordered a third, so I'll have one for fantasy and at least one to make into a Khorne Berserker. Despite the name. And the axe-mace, but that's what OK cleavers, BlOrc two-handers and chainaxes are for. God, I love converting.

*No, the baby-demigryph doesn't count

Those models are gorgeous, I want them! Oh why this game has to be crap?!

That Captain guy on foot with the tankard thing. Wow, Valdor proxy incomming, he looks terrific.

Could some kind soul translate the scrolls?

It doesn't have to be crap. Get your buddies together and put together some house rules to make it play how you want. In time I'm sure the tourney-loving fellas will work out a nice system for balancing it out for pickup games and stuff. It sucks that we gotta do GW's work for them, but it is what it is I guess.

I personally think it would be cool to have a force organization kinda like 40k, and set a max amt of models for unit scrolls.

The hero guy on foot just screams Custodes to me, more than any of the Sigmarine models. He's quite impressive.

 WargamingWarrior wrote:

 filbert wrote:
Do you like our shiny new statue

Still better quality than most of Mantics product line.

Gosh good thing Mantic encourages you to use whatever miniatures you want when playing their games, even at official events...
of course, it helps their rules are straight up superior

 Vermis wrote:
Lol! Mantic FTW.

angelofvengeance wrote:

 Talys wrote:


What a great few words about the game. Thanks for sharing!

I particularly like his closing thoughts:

Lastly, I want to say this. If you enjoy the new rules and models, hold your head up high: every gamer has the right to like whatever they damn well please. But respect the old guard, they built the hobby into what it is today.

If you don't like the rules, I absolutely get it. Please don't take it out on the people that do like them. As gamers we've never had as much choice and quality to choose from. when it comes to our gaming. Thoughtful critique and discussion wins over bitterness every time.

Yeah that's pretty much one of the most human responses to AoS I've read so far.

If by human you mean non-committal and scared of rocking the boat, yes. It could just as easily read 'people who like balanced, competitive games should hold their head up high and others shouldn't whinge at them for being waacers'.

One would have thought Mr Pirinen would be dragging this... thing through the dirt seeing as he was responsible for WHFB 6th edition and all of the groundwork it laid for the two future editions, only to be replaced by WHFB Numberwang edition.

 pities2004 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 filbert wrote:

Mantic Twitter wrote:Do you like our shiny new statue

I'm liking mantic more and more

That's all they could afford.


HA CHA CHA

Given that a healthy 90% of all KoW players in my area have spent the grand total of 0€ in Mantic products, I'd assume Ronnie's masterplan involves releasing free rules for running Stormcast Eternals in KoW.

See, GW, THIS IS HOW YOU RUN A BUSINESS.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 filbert wrote:

Mantic Twitter wrote:Do you like our shiny new statue

I'm liking mantic more and more

That's all they could afford.


HA CHA CHA

Given that a healthy 90% of all KoW players in my area have spent the grand total of 0€ in Mantic products, I'd assume Ronnie's masterplan involves releasing free rules for running Stormcast Eternals in KoW.

See, GW, THIS IS HOW YOU RUN A BUSINESS.

Notice how the crowd turnout is just 3 people =D

 Crimson wrote:
Could some kind soul translate the scrolls?

Quick translation:

Lord-Celestant
Stats should be clear.
Abilities:
Sigmarite Warcloak: The cloak can should D6 hammers in the Shooting Phase. For each hammer, choose an enemy unit in 16". Roll a die for each unit, on a 4+ the units gets a deadly wound. You can choose a unit multiple times.
Inevitable Retribution: If you made a charge move this round, each melee weapon gets +1 attack
Enraged Retribution: If this model is your general and activates this ability, you may add +1 to To-Hit rolls for this model and every friendly unit of Stormcast Eternals in 9" in the melee phase.


Liberators
Stats should be clear.
Description: 5+ models. They have either: dual Warblade or Warhammer and Sigmarite-Shield. May have instead a Grandhammer or Grandblae per 5 models.
Liberator-Prime: 3 attacks instead of 2.
Abilities:
Sigmarite-Shield: if at least 1 model in the unit has a Sigmarite-Shield, you may re-roll 1s on save rolls.
Death to the tyrants: if a model of this unit targets an enemy unit with 5+ wounds, add +1 to To-Hit rolls in the melee phase.
Weapon pair: with a dual weapon pair, a Sigmarite can attack or parry. May re-roll To-Hit rolls of 1.

His cloak shoots hammers..?

This is Age of Sigmar: Skulls vs Hammers..

I love the new models but that cloak is getting hammer timed... by that I mean all the hammers will be clipped off...

A hammer shooting cloak...that was unexpected. Hopefully Lantern guy and the archers will be on pre-order a week saturday, I like them a lot more and the Liberators from AOS should be all you ever need.

And why all the enmity between fans of GW and Mantic? There is room for both to survive, and ultimately that means more games and more miniatures.

So is the clam pack guy not the guy with the Lantern and baby griffon? This a different $33 clam pack..

 Hanskrampf wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Could some kind soul translate the scrolls?

Liberators
Stats should be clear.
Description: 5+ models. They have either: dual Warblade or Warhammer and Sigmarite-Shield. May have instead a Grandhammer or Grandblae per 5 models.
Liberator-Prime: 3 attacks instead of 2.
Abilities:
Sigmarite-Shield: if at least 1 model in the unit has a Sigmarite-Shield, you may re-roll 1s on save rolls.
Death to the tyrants: if a model of this unit targets an enemy unit with 5+ wounds, add +1 to To-Hit rolls in the melee phase.
Weapon pair: with a dual weapon pair, a Sigmarite can attack or parry. May re-roll To-Hit rolls of 1.

Thank you. Does that mean that they cannot have sword and shield or dual hammers? Models were shown with those combinations...
Is anything stopping the champion having the unit's single great weapon?

The models look decent enough (Despite the scale being a big non-starter for 40k conversions.. custodes arent primarch sized). I wish GW could be more subtle in their theme as there is really no need for a cloak that shoots hammers (We get it.. sigmar loves hammers and khorne loves skulls).

Chopxsticks wrote:
So is the clam pack guy not the guy with the Lantern and baby griffon? This a different $33 clam pack..

No. Clampack is the sergeant with his special not-even-thor-was-worthy-enough-hammer-cloak. No baby griffon or lantern. Possibly next week (or a bit later even?).

 Hanskrampf wrote:

Sigmarite Warcloak: The cloak can should D6 hammers in the Shooting Phase. For each hammer, choose an enemy unit in 16". Roll a die for each unit, on a 4+ the units gets a deadly wound. You can choose a unit multiple times.

Really? Wow. So the hammer cloak has a longer range than most of the Skaven weaponry?

I'm actually surprised at how often GW can surprise me. Next someone will be able to shoot tiny hammers out of their hammers, Whilst riding on some sort of Hammer-Chariot pulled by magic hammers.

Could any kind gentleman\lady possibly translate and tell me what the white dwarf says about the large book and its contents?

 Hanskrampf wrote:

Lol @ the Combat Gauge for 25€
No, thanks, I stick to my measuring tape for max. 4€

I quite like it. If it was 10€ I'd probably buy one, at 25€ I think I'll look for an acrylic equivalent.

AncientSkarbrand wrote:
Could any kind gentleman\lady possibly translate and tell me what the white dwarf says about the large book and its contents?

This was translated from a few pages back:

 pretre wrote:

guru wrote:
from warseer

Hardcover book of 264 pages in full color where we find the background of everything the happened from the events in "The End of times" to Warhammer : Age of Sigmar. 8 new scenarios , 24 Warscrolls ( thumbnail profiles ) for Stormcast eternals , Khorne Bloodbound and Sylvaneth . In Spanish. This article becomes part of the module.

From google translate.

Wonderwolf wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
So is the clam pack guy not the guy with the Lantern and baby griffon? This a different $33 clam pack..

No. Clampack is the sergeant with his special not-even-thor-was-worthy-enough-hammer-cloak. No baby griffon or lantern. Possibly next week (or a bit later even?).

The clampack is specifically noted as a Lord Celestant, which is the what the mounted Sigmarite character is.

Oh, apologies. I thought perhaps it said something new or different from that. My bad. Thank you.

 Las wrote:
50 for five?

Lolololo

I give it 2 weeks max. until other companies start coming out with their own "animated warrior statues".

 Crimson wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Could some kind soul translate the scrolls?

Liberators
Stats should be clear.
Description: 5+ models. They have either: dual Warblade or Warhammer and Sigmarite-Shield. May have instead a Grandhammer or Grandblae per 5 models.
Liberator-Prime: 3 attacks instead of 2.
Abilities:
Sigmarite-Shield: if at least 1 model in the unit has a Sigmarite-Shield, you may re-roll 1s on save rolls.
Death to the tyrants: if a model of this unit targets an enemy unit with 5+ wounds, add +1 to To-Hit rolls in the melee phase.
Weapon pair: with a dual weapon pair, a Sigmarite can attack or parry. May re-roll To-Hit rolls of 1.

Thank you. Does that mean that they cannot have sword and shield or dual hammers? Models were shown with those combinations...
Is anything stopping the champion having the unit's single great weapon?

They can have Sword/Shield or Dual Hammers. There are pics containing both those setups.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJZO-MoUEAAcAYV.jpg:large

The rules specifically refer to using two of the same weapon, not specifically dual hammers or dual swords.

 Las wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:

 Las wrote:
50 for five?

Lolololo

As has been pointed out $50 for 5 40mm sized models is inline with their current pricing for their 40k line for models being sold that were currently released a decade ago. It's also cheaper than equivelant models (5 BA Terminators) that were recently released. It's actually cheaper than some of their end time pricing (i.e. Blightkings & Wrathmongers) for equivelant fantasy offerings.

Not saying $50 isn't expensive but it's not like GW is sneaking in a price increase. The price increase seems to be on the not needed but cool accessories (if that's your thing) or the help eliminate extra steps painting items.

Yeah, I agree with you. But for a new army being launched, presumably as a way to get new players in it's kind of ridiculous.

They're actually 50mm, and they fill out 50mm very nicely.

You know that the 50mm cavalry units for PP come in a pack of 5 and cost $85 - $100 right? Khador Uhlans, Cyngar Storm Lances, etc. If you look at armored knight type figures, the new Anson Durst model for WMH is, I think, $25, too. On 40mm. I think he's laughably ugly as sin, but that's a whole other issue The "premium" 50mm ones from PP, like Elderhorn are $55 and up.

If you look at Dark Sword Miniatures, most of them are $10 minis for infantry sized -- which comes out to $50 for a pack of 5.

I'm not saying that $50 is expensive or cheap -- it's a fair market price for a premium model. If it's not to your liking... there are plenty of cheaper models both from GW and other vendors, but for the people who do like them, that's no more than what anyone else is selling for models like that.


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 prowla wrote:
I give it 2 weeks max. until other companies start coming out with their own "animated warrior statues".

They're are already Greek-themed warrior models that someone posted some pages (probably 150 now...) back that have a very similar look. I mean, the Sigmarite foot soldiers aren't really awesomely original -- they're just superbly sculpted. The premium models are very original though. Giant Cat FTW!

@ atia twitter

https://twitter.com/Lady_Atia/status/618814669856329728

People are making fun of KoW but people that do not want to play Age of SIgmar are running with their fantasy army over to their game.

The appeal of GW games was always " you can walk into any store and find a game" but if a bunch of people switch to KoW. Even if SOME people switch to KoW that might not be the draw of GW anymore when it comes to fantasy.

When a game says it is tournament legal to field ANY miniatures you have as long as they fit the "foot print" of the regiment. IN addition you add in free rules people are willing to try the game out. After awhile some people are tempted to actually buy some of the models. Even if they don't by simply playing the game they are becoming advertising for the game.

Yes there will be people that are more than happy to play Age of Sigmar with their existing armies or start playing fantasy because of Age of SIgmar. But i know speaking for myself that even though I haven't played WHFB for a bit i will definitely not be playing Age of Sigmar but i am more than willing to play KoW.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Could some kind soul translate the scrolls?

Liberators
Stats should be clear.
Description: 5+ models. They have either: dual Warblade or Warhammer and Sigmarite-Shield. May have instead a Grandhammer or Grandblae per 5 models.
Liberator-Prime: 3 attacks instead of 2.
Abilities:
Sigmarite-Shield: if at least 1 model in the unit has a Sigmarite-Shield, you may re-roll 1s on save rolls.
Death to the tyrants: if a model of this unit targets an enemy unit with 5+ wounds, add +1 to To-Hit rolls in the melee phase.
Weapon pair: with a dual weapon pair, a Sigmarite can attack or parry. May re-roll To-Hit rolls of 1.

Thank you. Does that mean that they cannot have sword and shield or dual hammers? Models were shown with those combinations...
Is anything stopping the champion having the unit's single great weapon?

They can have Sword/Shield or Dual Hammers. There are pics containing both those setups.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJZO-MoUEAAcAYV.jpg:large

The rules specifically refer to using two of the same weapon, not specifically dual hammers or dual swords.

So there is no difference between Hammer and Shield or Sword and Shield? Wierd, but I guess it could help visually identify different units.