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 cincydooley wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
He is a red priest.

Speaking of...we haven't seen the Brotherhood in a loooooooong ass time.

Could also be referring to the resettlement of the Free Folk.


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Also, am I daft or why was 'Kill the boy!' named as such?

 pretre wrote:
Could also be referring to the resettlement of the Free Folk.

That's a possibility as well, albeit less exciting

 pretre wrote:
Could also be referring to the resettlement of the Free Folk.


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Also, am I daft or why was 'Kill the boy!' named as such?

"Kill the Boy Jon Snow. Let the Man come free."

 Compel wrote:
I would take a guess that...

Spoiler:

Mormont arrives just as Dany flies off, leaving him and Tyrion to take care of things, because one of the Dothraki or something vouch for him.

They probably decided that Selmy and Mormont were too similar to keep around in the same place and will be combining their arcs now that Selmy's gone.

Actually he's getting three character arcs - it was Jon Corrington who got greyscale in the books not Mormont, but it appears Jon Corrington (and the "Mummer's Dragon" have been cut entirely from the show to streamline the story.

At the rate the story is progressing, Danny will invade Westeros in Season 6.

Or not. It still hasn't happened yet in the books so its just speculation on my part, and therefore not a spoiler.

"The Gift" could also be referring to the "gift of death," which could play a part in Arya's storyline.... hmm.

Lots to consider.

 cincydooley wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Could also be referring to the resettlement of the Free Folk.


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Also, am I daft or why was 'Kill the boy!' named as such?

"Kill the Boy Jon Snow. Let the Man come free."

Ahh, gotcha.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Compel wrote:
I would take a guess that...

Spoiler:

Mormont arrives just as Dany flies off, leaving him and Tyrion to take care of things, because one of the Dothraki or something vouch for him.

They probably decided that Selmy and Mormont were too similar to keep around in the same place and will be combining their arcs now that Selmy's gone.

Actually he's getting three character arcs - it was Jon Corrington who got greyscale in the books not Mormont, but it appears Jon Corrington (and the "Mummer's Dragon" have been cut entirely from the show to streamline the story.

At the rate the story is progressing, Danny will invade Westeros in Season 6.

Or not. It still hasn't happened yet in the books so its just speculation on my part, and therefore not a spoiler.

 Compel wrote:
I can see them curing him actually... As part of the thing when they're going to pull the Red Priests into Dany's storyline.

Darkflame?

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Moqorro

Moqorro is discovered clinging to wreckage out to sea ten days later by the

Spoiler:

commanded by [SPOILER]. The crew wants him put to death, but Moqorro is unafraid and calm, which further unnerves the crew. Moqorro tells to [SPOILER]he knows of the [SPOILER] quest to seek the dragon queen and that [SPOILER] will die from his wounded hand without Moqorro's help.

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 Mr Morden wrote:

 Compel wrote:
I can see them curing him actually... As part of the thing when they're going to pull the Red Priests into Dany's storyline.

If they do it...........

[spoiler]Stannis daughter

Red Priest near dragons.........enlightment


They come with fire

Goodness forbid we actually have peiests that can do things, eh?

 Mr Morden wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Compel wrote:
I can see them curing him actually... As part of the thing when they're going to pull the Red Priests into Dany's storyline.

If they do it...........

Spoiler:

Stannis daughter

had it arrested - wasn't it a healer from Drone who fixed her?

In the show have we actually seen any example of the actual Red Priests being able to heal etc? - Melisande has not that I can recall? They seem to only use destructive magic?

Yup- Thoros of Myr brings Beric Dondarrion back after the Hound chops him in Trial by Combat.

Is he still a Red Priest? and they kinda seem to have moved away from that whole story and the Red Priests reviving the undead?

He was sent to King's Landing to convert Robert Baratheon to Rh'llor but instead becomes one of his drinking buddies.

There seems to be no strict hierarchy among the Red Priests, and they all seem to go about their business in different ways.

Hello...Thoros of Myr ring any bells?

Well yes, but thats why I asked if he was still a Red Priest or now something else and is he still even in the show? Do they need him for anything in the actual plot lines they are using?

The other two I recall are Melisande who only seems to demonstrate destructive magic or prophercy and the recent RP who seemed to recognise Tyrion and was preeching about Dany amongst other things

.

Wasn't something mention about "magic" returning when the dragons hatch?

What if the Walkers are natural enemy of the dragons........and they both know that each are walking the lands now......

 Jihadin wrote:
Wasn't something mention about "magic" returning when the dragons hatch?

What if the Walkers are natural enemy of the dragons........and they both know that each are walking the lands now......

That's a clear theme in the books. Magic died off when the dragons did (not sure if this is just a coincidence or a cause ) and returns when they do (again not sure if coincidence or cause).

Severely disappointed by episode 5. That forced love story with Greyworm is just stupid and very poor writing. Berristan's fate heavily breaks with the lore. Not liking where the series is going.

It looks as if you're bound to be continually disappointed here...

 Sigvatr wrote:
Severely disappointed by episode 5. That forced love story with Greyworm is just stupid and very poor writing. Berristan's fate heavily breaks with the lore. Not liking where the series is going.

I thought Episode 5 was one of the best of the entire series. Lots of great set pieces. Missandei and Greyworm are more than just throw away characters now.

Berristan didn't really DO anything that others couldn't do.

So..I guess I'm saying I heartily disagree.

Jorah has a angle to get back in Danerias good graces though. Replacing Ser "B" and having Tyrion there to. I cannot think though who practices magic in Danerias inner circle or out and about in the city to cure the "Gray Skin"

Jon so far following along with the book so far but I wonder.....(Mance)



I wonder if their going to bring over one of the giants to help Jon (Big guy was kind of cool in the book)
...........
Penny Dreadful after that

 Alpharius wrote:
It looks as if you're bound to be continually disappointed here...

Indeed - I (and all my friends I have spoken to) think that the show writers have done a fantastic job in cutting out the hundreds of pages of dross and un needed characters that were thrown into the last few books.

The recent deaths of keep the story moving and also TV shows don't want to pay people if they are not really any use in the show (they don't need either character now) - GRM tends to throw people in left right and centre, forgot about them for a book or two etc and that approach is not going to work when you are dealing with real actors and real bills to pay them.

re Greyworm - can't see anything wrong with it, thought it was nicely played myself but each to their own.........

 Alpharius wrote:
It looks as if you're bound to be continually disappointed here...

Why? Up to this point, with a few exceptions, the series managed to catch the story really well. Greyworm is just a very poorly slapped on "Crap, we don't have other characters for a love story!" goon and has been rewritten to fit into the usual series clichees. That's very poor writing. I really hope for this to be a slip up.

The writing has been good, but I think they took a bad turn with the end of this episode.

As I posted on another forum, the second after the credits started, I told my wife that the writers are about to face a gakstorm. Which was probably their goal, but they didn't need to do THAT for shock value and to get people talking.

And it was bad writing to boot. The Sansa character had evolved to the point where it was highly out of character for her to let that happen to her. Just 15 minutes earlier you had the scene in the bath where Sansa was strong, unintimidated, and not a victim.

Could there be a twist coming in the next episode? That would at least excuse the bad writing, although not the trolling for outrage.

 gorgon wrote:
The writing has been good, but I think they took a bad turn with the end of this episode.

As I posted on another forum, the second after the credits started, I told my wife that the writers are about to face a gakstorm. Which was probably their goal, but they didn't need to do THAT for shock value and to get people talking.

And it was bad writing to boot. The Sansa character had evolved to the point where it was highly out of character for her to let that happen to her. Just 15 minutes earlier you had the scene in the bath where Sansa was strong, unintimidated, and not a victim.

Could there be a twist coming in the next episode? That would at least excuse the bad writing, although not the trolling for outrage.

This must be a new episode as not sure what this is about?

Uk have not got the latest episode as yet......guessing its a Ramsey / Sansa or similar moment...................very bad things did happen did happen to the fake Sansa in the book and as they have combined their stories (or rather actually given Sansa a story).............

Wow. Just wow. Really? REALLY? We are super pissed off at this point.



Massively disappointed by the writing that was "meh" in episode 5 and turned to utter trash in episode 6. So angry.

/e: Wife threw a book at the wall in anger

People were upset at Jamie rape his sister earlier. No reason for it to go that way but it did.

Well, that was lame.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
The writing has been good, but I think they took a bad turn with the end of this episode.

As I posted on another forum, the second after the credits started, I told my wife that the writers are about to face a gakstorm. Which was probably their goal, but they didn't need to do THAT for shock value and to get people talking.

And it was bad writing to boot. The Sansa character had evolved to the point where it was highly out of character for her to let that happen to her. Just 15 minutes earlier you had the scene in the bath where Sansa was strong, unintimidated, and not a victim.

Could there be a twist coming in the next episode? That would at least excuse the bad writing, although not the trolling for outrage.

This must be a new episode as not sure what this is about?

Uk have not got the latest episode as yet......guessing its a Ramsey / Sansa or similar moment...................very bad things did happen did happen to the fake Sansa in the book and as they have combined their stories (or rather actually given Sansa a story).............

It was fake Arya, IIRC, but you're on track.

 Laemos wrote:
People were upset at Jamie rape his sister earlier. No reason for it to go that way but it did.

Yeah I agreed that that was a odd choice and against character -

if this is about Ramsey / Sansa - well I thought it was inevitable really unless Ramsey's dad stepped in - Ramsey is a deeply horrible person.......usually brilliantly done but he and his girlfriend were already talking about the "wedding night" which had not boded well.

I thought people wanted it to be more like the books? This is exactly what happens to fake Sansa - not seen the episode so can't say how graphic / exploitative it is......

Sansa may have become a bit more assertive but she is a teenage girl at the mercy (or lack of) of the Boltons..............

Oh dear. Looks like Bronne is fethed.



Feminist twitter outrage aside, the Ramsay - Sansa thing makes perfect sense for Ramsay, its exactly the sort of thing that he would do (and does in fact do in the books, but to a different character). Seems they've completely thrown the book Sansa's story arc out the window. Guess they decided it wasn't interesting enough for the show. So really, this had to happen to Sansa, because for intents and purposes she is "Fake Arya", and this is exactly what happened to Fake Arya in the book.

In fact what happened to Jeyne Poole was worse because Ramsay had Reek...lubricate her... for him. <hurls>

Not that I'm saying that this scene was good writing or anything.

 gorgon wrote:
Could there be a twist coming in the next episode? That would at least excuse the bad writing, although not the trolling for outrage.

Assuming that...

[BOOK SPOILER/POSSIBLE TV SPOILER]

 Alpharius wrote:
It looks as if you're bound to be continually disappointed here...

So is Grey Worm.