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Ramsey is crafty and seriously thinks outside the box

 Jihadin wrote:
Ramsey is crafty and seriously thinks outside the box

More like... he rapes the box, slices off the flaps then peels it apart layer by layer.






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 Mr Morden wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Ramsey becoming a super magical ninja isn't one of the strong points of the TV series.

Guess one person's "cool" is another persons "silly" I have seen him being eveil, getting stuck into fighting but no "ninja" abilities -do you mean getting close enought to Stanis camp full of frozen, ill equiped and half starved men to burn bits and pieces and drive horses off - that was pretty realistic I felt...........Ask Napolean and Hitler about campaigning in the winter.....

Ramsey being a decent bad guy is one of my many favs and why its better than the books - great acting as well by him and Theon.

In the world they live in the Boltons may be very important in defending the North - maybe much more so than the dead bastard of a dead family

There's a fan theory which suggests Roose Bolton is a White Walker or descendant of White Walkers who uses magic to wear the flayed skin and faces of Bolton Lord's through the centuries so he can assume their identities and rule House Bolton, much like how the Faceless Men change their faces using the flayed skin of their supplicants. Ramsay is next to volunteer his skin. ;P


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Something which bothered me about Arya' s scene with the two (not) Jaqen' s...is that it's not consistent with how the Faceless Mens abilities are explained in the books.

tl;dr: to wear a face, they have to physically posses the mask, of which there can be only one, and only if they were able to get their hands on the body and flay the face. In the show, it seems they can wear whatever face they like at a whim (Arya, two different Faceless Men wearing Jaqens face simultaneously).

The Faceless Men change their faces through a combination of magic, and physical items. They flay the skin off the faces of applicants who come to the House of Black and White and use it to create masks. (The dying girl who Arya comforts, and whose face she used to kill Meryn Trant). When a Faceless Man wears this mask, some sort of magic is used to bring it to life (blood is invoked I think).

To wear a face, you must posess the mask. So the Faceless Men cannot masquerade as a person whose body and face they have not gotten their hands on, like Tywin, Joffrey, or any of the dead Starks.

Arya' s face has not been flayed and turned into a mask, so the dead Faceless Man should not have had her face. And likewise, there shouldn't have been two Jaqens at the same time, because there's only one mask.

And of course, that Jaqen mask somehow made it from Harrenhall, where Arya met the first Faceless Man, to Braavos, where it seems any Faceless Man can wear any face they like whether they posess the mask or not. The three Faceless Men we've seen so far are not the same person. The real "Jaqen" is long dead, ever since he died at the HoB&W. Faceless Men have no true identities, they've given them up and forgotten them. "Jaqen" is simply an alias.

And in the books, the first time Arya is officially sanctioned to use a mask they do something to her...

They obviously used some shortcuts for the show. Jaqen was familiar and made the trip to the Faceless Men make more sense for viewers.

Yup - TV Shorthand...FTW?

Having it be more 'magical' on the show is OK by me.

There's only so many minutes available per episode...

Most of the TV show is shorthand for the books and, I agree, that's a good thing.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Ramsey being a decent bad guy is one of my many favs and why its better than the books - great acting as well by him and Theon.

Well, we can chalk this up as another of the many, many things we disagree on. Personally, I think that actor chews the scenery more than any other on the show.


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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

There's a fan theory which suggests Roose Bolton is a White Walker or descendant of White Walkers who uses magic to wear the flayed skin and faces of Bolton Lord's through the centuries so he can assume their identities and rule House Bolton, much like how the Faceless Men change their faces using the flayed skin of their supplicants. Ramsay is next to volunteer his skin. ;P

Yeah, I think that one is paper-thin at best. Now, the Starks having Other blood in their veins is another thing IMO...

Is "Other Blood" (!) the thing that gives them all their Warg proclivities?

Well,

Valyrian has the Rome/SPQR thing going from description Tyrion gave of them on one of the last episodes

Thread necromancy, but it's on topic and 'tis was our GoT thread, wasn't it? :(

Official spoiler via Twitter?

That's one hell of a spoiler image - maybe.

I mean, it would be the least surprising spoiler this side of Glenn not being dead, but still!

Least surprising spoiler after Theon / the Stark girls being alive.

That's a spoiler?

Well...technically, it hasn't been shown in the series...

 Sigvatr wrote:
Thread necromancy, but it's on topic and 'tis was our GoT thread, wasn't it? :(

Official spoiler via Twitter?

Spoiler:

Ah damn i hoped they had burnt his corpse, cut it up and fed it to the wolves

Also a million times more interested what hapened to Magery as she was ignored for the last half of the season.

Good to see your lunacy isn't confined to the Walking Dead!

Best-looking actress in the series, gets mostly neglected for an actuallynotthatawesomeboobs naked body double. Sad times :(

 Sigvatr wrote:
Best-looking actress in the series, gets mostly neglected for an actuallynotthatawesomeboobs naked body double. Sad times :(

Natalie Dormer is lovely and very busy I just hope we get some stuff with her and not dull nonsense with Boring Bran et al even I we have to stomach more John Snow crap

Although strangely did see that she is supposedly filming with which is odd / interesting

 Sigvatr wrote:
Best-looking actress in the series, gets mostly neglected for an actuallynotthatawesomeboobs naked body double. Sad times :(

You know Lena Headey was pregnant when they shot that scene, right?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Best-looking actress in the series, gets mostly neglected for an actuallynotthatawesomeboobs naked body double. Sad times :(

You know Lena Headey was pregnant when they shot that scene, right?

I don't care for the reason, those boobies were disappointing!

Glad to see you're watching for all the right reasons?

 Alpharius wrote:
Glad to see you're watching for all the right reasons?

Is there wrong reason to watch a show?

Lets face there are a quite a few T+A scenes put in especially to GoT - they usually have to have a brothel scene or similar every so often to make that quota.........

So far they managed to got most of the lead actresses to strip off and some of the men - "just for art" I guess............ not complaining as I like it

Well, Good For You!

 Alpharius wrote:
Glad to see you're watching for all the right reasons?

Once you're married, you learn to cherish every opportunity to legally look at another woman's jugs with your partner next to ya.

On the other hand, my wife actively asks for more floppy wieners in the series. I disagree.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Glad to see you're watching for all the right reasons?

Once you're married, you learn to cherish every opportunity to legally look at another woman's jugs with your partner next to ya.

On the other hand, my wife actively asks for more floppy wieners in the series. I disagree.

Have you watched the truely excellent Sparticus Series - plenty for both of you there.......

Seriously - back on topic here.

http://grrm.livejournal.com/465247.html


tl/dr no new book before the new TV series.


Lists why and then talks a little bit about how the show and the book will still be different, and how/if the TV series will spoil the book then.



err.... no massive spoilers from what i could see at a glance but if you haven't been following then don't etc etc

Thanks for the update

Personally its good news for me as given up on the novels after the last ones and the show seems to be much more in tune with what I want to see and will hopefully continue......(well except for the tiresome Jon and Sam show..........)

Shame she didn't get her That was a pretty big wtf moment in the books.

I'm totally suprised, shocked, upset, flabergasted,...yadda yadda yadda etc etc etc......

Though was mention the HBO was going to finish the books for him. So he has like five years max of employment with HBO...