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 ImAGeek wrote:


The books are currently at the end of season 5 (and season 5 was quite significantly different in a few places) and this season is all new stuff.

There's some material from the most recent book that didn't make it into season 5, but is now supposed to be in six; namely the Greyjoy plot line, though we can already tell how that might run in its own direction as well with some of the other changes.

 LordofHats wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:


The books are currently at the end of season 5 (and season 5 was quite significantly different in a few places) and this season is all new stuff.

There's some material from the most recent book that didn't make it into season 5, but is now supposed to be in six; namely the Greyjoy plot line, though we can already tell how that might run in its own direction as well with some of the other changes.

And the Siege of Meereen. The fighting pit massacre with the Haripies was a sort of proxy for that in the previous Season, but the trailers do appear to imply theres a wider conflict coming (unless the Harpies have suddenly got their hands on siege equipment capable of attacking Danny's great pyramid).

 LordofHats wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:


The books are currently at the end of season 5 (and season 5 was quite significantly different in a few places) and this season is all new stuff.

There's some material from the most recent book that didn't make it into season 5, but is now supposed to be in six; namely the Greyjoy plot line, though we can already tell how that might run in its own direction as well with some of the other changes.

Good point. I think of the Greyjoy plot line, only Euron is in the series. The Greyjoy stuff was another part of the books I really enjoyed. I was looking forward to seeing Victarions kraken helm too.

 d-usa wrote:
Here is a good little summary about one of the theories regarding Tyrion:

Spoiler:

Edit: to add personal theories:

Spoiler:

Danny is already riding Drogon, named after her husband and who has markings that share the colors of her house.
Then we have Rhaegal, named after the presumptive father of John Snow. The dragon has green markings with some of the banners of House Stark showing a white & green field.
And we have Viserion, named after the son whose mother died in childbirth. The dragon has gold markings, present in the colors of House Lanister.

Also note her visions in the House of the Undying in the show. She visits three places -- the Wall, the throne room, and Khal Drogo's tent.

The Tyrion theory is really cool with good evidence to support it, but i think it undermines Tryions character somewhat. I've always preferred the idea that of all his children, Tyrion was the most like Tywin, ruthless and cunning. Tyrion is Tywin's true son, even more so than Jaime (or Cersei), as much as Tywin wanted to deny it.

If Tyrion is secretly a Targaryen, then Tywin was right all along, Tyrion is no son of his.

Except that he is, in every way that counts.

Nurture over Nature this time!

 ImAGeek wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:


The books are currently at the end of season 5 (and season 5 was quite significantly different in a few places) and this season is all new stuff.

There's some material from the most recent book that didn't make it into season 5, but is now supposed to be in six; namely the Greyjoy plot line, though we can already tell how that might run in its own direction as well with some of the other changes.

Good point. I think of the Greyjoy plot line, only Euron is in the series. The Greyjoy stuff was another part of the books I really enjoyed. I was looking forward to seeing Victarions kraken helm too.

I'll be interested to see if they include:



Re: the helmets. I doubt it, because Tywin's armour appears very differently to the stuff in the show. In the books he has an awesome helmet with a swiping lion crest and on his armour, he also has claw shaped clasps that hold his cloak on to his armour. Would be nice if they made the exception to Victarion, though.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:


The books are currently at the end of season 5 (and season 5 was quite significantly different in a few places) and this season is all new stuff.

There's some material from the most recent book that didn't make it into season 5, but is now supposed to be in six; namely the Greyjoy plot line, though we can already tell how that might run in its own direction as well with some of the other changes.

Good point. I think of the Greyjoy plot line, only Euron is in the series. The Greyjoy stuff was another part of the books I really enjoyed. I was looking forward to seeing Victarions kraken helm too.

I'll be interested to see if they include:

Spoiler:

The magic horn that burns people to a crisp when they use it

They have to, surely.

Well they appear to have chopped- remember that there were a few folks trying to get the dragons..

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Well they appear to have chopped- remember that there were a few folks trying to get the dragons..

Spoiler:

Quentyn Martell's betrothal to Daenerys Targaryen. Tristane appears to be Prince Doran's only son in the show.

Yep, and then they killed him. I was hoping that Trystane would be the show's version of Quentyn Martell.

Trystane is in the books too I think.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Trystane is in the books too I think.

Yes, I mean I was hoping they'd combine the two characters, rather than cut Quentyn altogether. He'd be on the show in spirit, if not as a character in his own right. Trystane on the show is several years older than in the books, and is much closer in age to Quentyn in the books (i.e. Quentyn was of fighting age).

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Trystane is in the books too I think.

Yes, I mean I was hoping they'd combine the two characters, rather than cut Quentyn altogether. He'd be on the show in spirit, if not as a character in his own right. Trystane on the show is several years older than in the books, and is much closer in age to Quentyn in the books (i.e. Quentyn was of fighting age).

Was he the idiot who tried to steal Dany's Dragons and walked in to their prison?

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Trystane is in the books too I think.

Yes, I mean I was hoping they'd combine the two characters, rather than cut Quentyn altogether. He'd be on the show in spirit, if not as a character in his own right. Trystane on the show is several years older than in the books, and is much closer in age to Quentyn in the books (i.e. Quentyn was of fighting age).

Was he the idiot who tried to steal Dany's Dragons and walked in to their prison?

Yes. Tries to tame (I think) Rhaegal but Viserion fries him.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Trystane is in the books too I think.

Yes, I mean I was hoping they'd combine the two characters, rather than cut Quentyn altogether. He'd be on the show in spirit, if not as a character in his own right. Trystane on the show is several years older than in the books, and is much closer in age to Quentyn in the books (i.e. Quentyn was of fighting age).

Was he the idiot who tried to steal Dany's Dragons and walked in to their prison?

Yes. Tries to tame (I think) Rhaegal but Viserion fries him.

It was sorta working too. Rhaegal didn't kill him. But he made the mistake of turning his back on the other dragon.

It was not entirely stupid. IIRC, House Martell, like House Baratheon, married into the Targaryens several times through their history and therefore the Martells have some Valyrian blood in them. Therefore Its not impossible for a Martell to tame a dragon, just very unlikely. Hell, not even modern Targaryen's know how to tame a dragon. The only reason Danny's dragons haven't killed her is because they recognise her as their "mother". But imagine Danny trying to tame a wild dragon?

I'm ready for Episode 2! Let's go already!

So glad Monday is a bank holiday. Means I don't have to wait till 6pm to watch it.

It is wrong that I kind of don't care if Dorne gets invaded now, because of the Sand Snakes and the widow's idiocy? I don't remember them being that bloodthirsty in the books. The spear lady was, but I don't recall the other two being as sadistic.

"Oh, lets murder the Lannister heir, and then Dorne's current ruler because he's smart enough not to provoke the richest and most powerful house in Westeros! We'z supa smart!"

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
It is wrong that I kind of don't care if Dorne gets invaded now, because of the Sand Snakes and the widow's idiocy? I don't remember them being that bloodthirsty in the books. The spear lady was, but I don't recall the other two being as sadistic.

"Oh, lets murder the Lannister heir, and then Dorne's current ruler because he's smart enough not to provoke the richest and most powerful house in Westeros! We'z supa smart!"

Spoiler:

Also, wasn't Doran secretly plotting to turn against the Lannisters the whole time, preparing to help the Targaryan's retake the throne? At least in the books. If he was planning that in the show...yeah, Sand Snakes are dumbasses

Yeah they are stupid but they can ninja teleport over to the ship in Kings Landing harbour............... people do do stupid things which I am fine with but is not the most gripping storyline they have done.......................

If they ignored them now - I doubt anyone would care.

Episode Title Leaks:



...and much speculation as to what they might mean exists online...

I would have preferred that Doran simply execute them all for Myrcellas murder and kept Dorne loyal, then the show should have forgotten about Dornes existence for the rest of the series. Nothing of value would have been lost.

What made Dorne interesting in the books was their facade of loyalty to the Lannisters, but we slowly found out that Dorsn had been scheming for revenge for 20 years in cahoots with Varys and Illyrio. When the Sand Snakes and Arianne (Ellaria) learn the truth, they quickly fall in line and get on board with his plan.

Its called The Dornish Master Plan for a reason.

And the crowd goes wild!

Feth yes! I mean, I knew it was coming but I've been waiting 4 years for this moment ever since I read Dance of Dragons. Now its official.

In the books, Ramsay (supposedly) sent the "pink letter" to Castle Black, threatening them. But that hasn't happened on the show. The synopsis and promo for the next episode says that Ramsay will "receive a gift". Perhaps instead of a "pink letter", the show will do a "black letter" (or a "white letter").

And I liked how the moment with Roose and Ramsay mirrored the Red Wedding.

Ramsey is a right bastard...ugh...how does one even write a character that evil? He's beyond a sociopath at this point. Fething right bastard.

Well to be fair, he did learn from the best.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Feth yes! I mean, I knew it was coming but I've been waiting 4 years for this moment ever since I read Dance of Dragons. Now its official.

In the books, Ramsay (supposedly) sent the "pink letter" to Castle Black, threatening them. But that hasn't happened on the show. The synopsis and promo for the next episode says that Ramsay will "receive a gift". Perhaps instead of a "pink letter", the show will do a "black letter" (or a "white letter").

And I liked how the moment with Roose and Ramsay mirrored the Red Wedding.

Ahem.

Now not let get ahead of ourselves



Also Hi I'm back only for game of thrones/

I do think Ramsay is a right old git. I knew it from the beginning that it would end in such a way.

Such is the way of evil

If you tease a rabid dog, it might just bite you. Who would have guessed.

So, it appears that the men on the Nights Watch don't hold up as well to being slammed around by the Hulk the way Loki does. ;P

And stabbing the previous lord commander to death doesn't instill a lot of loyalty into the ranks.

Thats just how Giants say hello.