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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:15:40
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
North Carolina (Charlotte Metro)
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Ok, so it says...
"Because the Knight Warden box contains the same three sprues as the Imperial Knight, you can choose to build this kit as a Knight Paladin or Knight Errant, complete with battle cannon or thermal cannon respectively. Of course, you can make use of the new sprue in the kit, too, and equip them with some of the more [unintelligible] wargear - the thunderstrike gauntlet, perhaps, or the shoulder-mounted [melta?]gun. Maybe you could build a Knight Paladin or Errant with one of the new face plates, the tilting shield or even the new carapace iconography.
"It's worth noting the Imperial Knight kit is still available. Parts from the two kits are interchangeable so, if you already own an Imperial Knight, or want to add another [unknown] to your collection, you can also add a missile pod or Icarus autocannon array [unknown] you have spare after building [your?] Knight Warden, Gallant or Crusader [unknown] painting it to match [unknown] the carapace..."
There is tons of awesome just in these two paragraphs...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:22:16
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Gargantuan Gargant
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So it looks like the Errant and Paladin will get the top of the carapace weapon add-on/upgrade options ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:23:51
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Yeah. It's actually a real codex now!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:27:07
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
North Carolina (Charlotte Metro)
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Did I miss the picture of a shoulder-mounted meltagun somewhere?
Also, I am absolutely LOVING the fluff-continuity of the four-digit fist. Anyone notice the Skitarii bionic hands are all four-digit, but their bio-hands are five digit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:28:41
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Definite
Errant
Paladin
Warden
Gallant
Crusader
Possible
Gerantius
Wishful Thinking
Acheron
Stryix
Magaera
Castigator
Lancer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:34:28
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
North Carolina (Charlotte Metro)
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adamsouza wrote:Definite
Errant
Paladin
Warden
Gallant
Crusader
Possible
Gerantius
Wishful Thinking
Acheron
Stryix
Magaera
Castigator
Lancer
Wasn't Gerantius the unique Knight from Sanctus Reach? You think he might be included as a SC? Automatically Appended Next Post: HGChamberlainIV wrote:Did I miss the picture of a shoulder-mounted meltagun somewhere?
Also, I am absolutely LOVING the fluff-continuity of the four-digit fist. Anyone notice the Skitarii bionic hands are all four-digit, but their bio-hands are five digit? 
I found it...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:38:02
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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I hope he will, or his legality is in question.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:39:27
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Las Vegas
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HGChamberlainIV wrote:
Wasn't Gerantius the unique Knight from Sanctus Reach? You think he might be included as a SC?
Yes, Gerantius is a named, unique Freeblade. The one I like the paint and heraldry of the most, but who seems to be wholly confined to one planet, so is sort of silly to have, in most cases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:46:14
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Since all they needed to do is cut and paste the Dataslate, and fluff, for Gerantius from the White Dwarf to the codex, I can't see why they wouldn't include him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 03:10:18
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Las Vegas
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adamsouza wrote:Since all they needed to do is cut and paste the Dataslate, and fluff, for Gerantius from the White Dwarf to the codex, I can't see why they wouldn't include him.
He had specific, SC type rules on a dataslate?
I did not know that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 03:26:24
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
North Carolina (Charlotte Metro)
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shade1313 wrote: adamsouza wrote:Since all they needed to do is cut and paste the Dataslate, and fluff, for Gerantius from the White Dwarf to the codex, I can't see why they wouldn't include him.
He had specific, SC type rules on a dataslate?
I did not know that.
Sure did. In fact, they gave them out for free as a digital download via the Warhammer App around Christmas time. I'm sure someone has them hosted somewhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 03:42:02
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Fixture of Dakka
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There is also the Obsidian knight and the Household Spearhead from Warzone: Damocles that could be adapted to fit. That would be 2-3 more dataslate pages.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 04:20:57
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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HGChamberlainIV wrote:
HGChamberlainIV wrote:Did I miss the picture of a shoulder-mounted meltagun somewhere?
Also, I am absolutely LOVING the fluff-continuity of the four-digit fist. Anyone notice the Skitarii bionic hands are all four-digit, but their bio-hands are five digit? 
I found it...

What an awesome idea... let's put a weapon that has a special effect that kicks in within 6" on the shoulder of a 6" tall model...
That'll be some points well spent, right there...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 04:23:09
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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adamsouza wrote:So it looks like the Errant and Paladin will get the top of the carapace weapon add-on/upgrade options ?
It also sounds like they can take the fist, for some flip the rhino action.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 04:24:30
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Las Vegas
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insaniak wrote:
What an awesome idea... let's put a weapon that has a special effect that kicks in within 6" on the shoulder of a 6" tall model...
That'll be some points well spent, right there...
Holdout gun against other LoW level opponents?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 04:43:18
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Fixture of Dakka
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shade1313 wrote: insaniak wrote:
What an awesome idea... let's put a weapon that has a special effect that kicks in within 6" on the shoulder of a 6" tall model...
That'll be some points well spent, right there...
Holdout gun against other LoW level opponents?
Charge range is also 12." Seems like it is designed to knock a wound off a MC or GC before you charge it, or to try to pop a transport and then charge the contents while the bigger guns shoot at things further away. It's only 5 points as well, so not a bad investment, as the stubber is often only used to mark a target to charge, rather than expecting it to actually do any damage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 04:55:15
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm wondering which setup would have more rule of cool, the guns or the giant missile launcher like the reaver?
And would you guys mind clarifying some things for me? If I buy this new knight with the codex, can I run it with the fist, the original cannon the first knight came with, and those autocannons?
Or is that not a legal setup?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 05:01:47
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Fixture of Dakka
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Stormwall wrote:I'm wondering which setup would have more rule of cool, the guns or the giant missile launcher like the reaver?
And would you guys mind clarifying some things for me? If I buy this new knight with the codex, can I run it with the fist, the original cannon the first knight came with, and those autocannons?
Or is that not a legal setup?
From the looks of it:
Paladin- Sword and Battle cannon- can swap sword for fist
Errant- Sword and Melta Cannon- can swap sword for fist
Warden- Sword and Gatling- can swap sword for fist
Crusader- Gatling and Melta cannon- can swap Melta for Battle cannon
Gallant- Sword and Fist.
Any model can swap shoulder stubber for shoulder melta
Any model can take a missile launcher or autocannon on the carapace.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 05:03:28
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Okay, so it would be a Paladin with a fist upgrade and an Autocannon.
Thank you sir.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 05:04:50
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
Brighton, MO
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So wait, we're getting a new Imperial Knights Codex already?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 05:05:31
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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I'm hoping for sprues with the new weapons to show up, cause I already have 6 of the old ones...
And they are still the same points cost, so we're still hosed vs Eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 05:17:39
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Not sure if it was mentioned but looks like the Imperial Knight Codex is no longer listed on the webstore...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 05:49:30
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Gerantius
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 05:49:54
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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I already own the existing kit(half finished, curse you Convertitis), and I'll likely only ever have reason to use a single Knight...but bugger me if I don't really fancy one of those Welfare-pattern Reavers. Not as much as if they'd put the effort in to actually modernise some of the other old Epic designs rather than just doing an add-on weapon sprue for the existing hull, but I'll probably get one eventually just to enjoy building it and swap which one I use on the table sometimes.
I'm glad I decided to hold off on buying the 'dex until I'd finished building the Knight though; replacing the whole codex so quickly is a dick move on GW's part when they could just have released the rules for the new stuff in WD.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 05:57:44
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Cheers for that Adam Souza, nice deduction on Gerantius. He has some pretty nifty special rules (the improved invun save and run and shoot could be great) and an excellent colour scheme. I am interested to see whether people think if he is worth the points or not.
I definitely want to add a new Knight or two to my collection as a result of this release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 06:02:07
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Hey look at that. WD-only DLC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 06:26:04
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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I'm just glad I went to the trouble of pulling apart and magnetising my Knight a few months back, now I just need to wait for resellers and bits sites to start stocking the new sprues
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 06:41:06
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thraxas Of Turai wrote:Cheers for that Adam Souza, nice deduction on Gerantius. He has some pretty nifty special rules (the improved invun save and run and shoot could be great) and an excellent colour scheme. I am interested to see whether people think if he is worth the points or not.
I definitely want to add a new Knight or two to my collection as a result of this release.
I remember seeing him and thinking he was overcosted :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 06:45:12
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Fixture of Dakka
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Talys wrote: Thraxas Of Turai wrote:Cheers for that Adam Souza, nice deduction on Gerantius. He has some pretty nifty special rules (the improved invun save and run and shoot could be great) and an excellent colour scheme. I am interested to see whether people think if he is worth the points or not.
I definitely want to add a new Knight or two to my collection as a result of this release.
I remember seeing him and thinking he was overcosted :(
+130 points for a bump in BS and WS, 3+ Inv instead of 4+, the ability to run and shoot, and It Will Not Die is a pretty good deal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 07:14:49
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - First Pictures Page 9-10
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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I have one Knight and had planned to add another, but it will be hard to decide which one. I'm leaning towards the fist / gatling cannon but the twin cannon model looks good to.
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Grey Knights 7500 points
Inquisition, 2500 points
Baneblade
Adeptus Mechanicus 3000 points |
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