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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wait... that's it? A sword, a dagger, a torso, some heads and 10 shoulder pads? You must be joking.

Where are the chapter-specific Terminator/Scout/Centurion parts?

good point, I haven't even thought about it but that would have been awesome

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wait... that's it? A sword, a dagger, a torso, some heads and 10 shoulder pads? You must be joking.

Where are the chapter-specific Terminator/Scout/Centurion parts?

Next codex in 4 months includes those

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wait... that's it? A sword, a dagger, a torso, some heads and 10 shoulder pads? You must be joking.

Where are the chapter-specific Terminator/Scout/Centurion parts?

In the cupboard next to the box marked "legion specific chaos rules" and on top of the one marked "plastic SOB moulds"

Wow. Compared to the old Dark Angels upgrade sprue the new one is a serious letdown. Three heads, a breastplate, an icon, some random greeble and ten shoulderpads? Come on, you could make an entire squad of robed power-armored dudes out of the old one!

Yeah, speaking of that, why do the BAs/DAs/SWs even need upgrade sprues? Their respective Chapter-specific kits (two, in the case of the BA's) cover pretty much all the iconography and fancy doo-dads that you could ever want.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wait... that's it? A sword, a dagger, a torso, some heads and 10 shoulder pads? You must be joking.

Where are the chapter-specific Terminator/Scout/Centurion parts?

Maybe/hopefully there is a separate vehicle icons pack that could include stuff for larger models. I agree, it is pretty disappointing that there is not a Terminator shoulder pad to be found. Then again, nobody buys Terminators anymore since they suck. The PA shoulders are much more versatile, being useful for Tacticals/Sternguard/Vanguard/Command/Devastators/Assaults. Terminator shoulder are useful for...Terminators.

I'm intruiged, but as an old space wolf player, I was heart broken at the most recent release of wolves seeing how they split the codex in two.

I hope space marines get some interesting things.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Wow. Compared to the old Dark Angels upgrade sprue the new one is a serious letdown. Three heads, a breastplate, an icon, some random greeble and ten shoulderpads? Come on, you could make an entire squad of robed power-armored dudes out of the old one!

The Old DA sprue was not really an "upgrade" sprue, it was a full kit with some extra parts for a Terminator. The old BT upgrade sprue is superior in content to these new ones though.
Don't see why DA, SW, and BA need them, they have their own kits.
Ultramarines benefit a lot, as would some of the other Vanilla chapters- Raven Guard, Iron Hands (Bionics!) White Scars, Salamanders. Fists need plastic upgrade, but got some finecast versions not too long ago. And Templars would be much better suited with a plastic Emperor's Champion and a Crusader squad kit with 5 PA and 5 CA models than just an upgrade sprue.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Wow. Compared to the old Dark Angels upgrade sprue the new one is a serious letdown. Three heads, a breastplate, an icon, some random greeble and ten shoulderpads? Come on, you could make an entire squad of robed power-armored dudes out of the old one!

The Old DA sprue was not really an "upgrade" sprue, it was a full kit with some extra parts for a Terminator. The old BT upgrade sprue is superior in content to these new ones though.
Don't see why DA, SW, and BA need them, they have their own kits.
Ultramarines benefit a lot, as would some of the other Vanilla chapters- Raven Guard, Iron Hands (Bionics!) White Scars, Salamanders. Fists need plastic upgrade, but got some finecast versions not too long ago. And Templars would be much better suited with a plastic Emperor's Champion and a Crusader squad kit with 5 PA and 5 CA models than just an upgrade sprue.

I agree completely. I would have to think if these upgrade kits sell well (which I think they will) we will see more chapters in the future. Also if the BT are getting their own codex I would have to think they would get their own upgrade sprue at that time along with a plastic hq. The beauty of the new weekly releases is they could throw a plastic character or 2 at us from time to time in between codex releases.

IDK the BT upgrade kit works perfectly for me. I still need to make a Terminator Squad with that Kit.

I missed having the BT Squad at first but then realized that while it was more expensive, I didn't have to buy a Crusader kit JUST to get upgrades.

I would hope they wouldn't REDUCE our upgrade sprues into something like what we've seen for the UM one.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, speaking of that, why do the BAs/DAs/SWs even need upgrade sprues? Their respective Chapter-specific kits (two, in the case of the BA's) cover pretty much all the iconography and fancy doo-dads that you could ever want.

Expect those to go OOP because they're a good deal.

At least the idea of Chapter-specific upgrade sets is a good one. I will be pleased if they make a decent Salamanders sprue. This also suits my Chaos Marines well because, long story short, they dress up in all kinds of iconography that isn't theirs.

When white scars :(

Wow that upgrade sprue is a joke. I bet it costs at least $20. LOL

I just make green stuff molds of the FW door icons. I don't see the point of a vheclie upgrade kit since FW already dose all "main" chapters already. Or will once they are featured in a HH book since their 30k and 40k iconography is the same.*Shrugs*

 Lockark wrote:
I just make green stuff molds of the FW door icons. I don't see the point of a vheclie upgrade kit since FW already dose all "main" chapters already. Or will once they are featured in a HH book since their 30k and 40k iconography is the same.*Shrugs*

They got rid of most of those though. Only for them to reissue them when their chapter comes out for HH
I want my White Scars doors

That sprue looks about the size of a plastic blister sprue. Suspect they wanted to bring the size down to fit in a blister instead of a box. So it will probably cost as much as the other current SM blisters. $30 is my guess based off the Sanguinary Priest.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wait... that's it? A sword, a dagger, a torso, some heads and 10 shoulder pads? You must be joking.

Where are the chapter-specific Terminator/Scout/Centurion parts?

It says that it's "The Ultramarines Upgrades Frame" which I assume means it will be something like a $15 sprue sold separately specifically for Ultramarines. I doubt it will be in the Command box (why shove it down the throats of people who want to play salamanders or some other chapter, right?). More likely, there will be upgrades frames for the more popular chapters. Good money, as those shoulder pads and accessory pieces are dead easy to make.

A way better deal is a box like Death Company, which "looks" expensive, but there are so many parts in it that can be used for other Blood Angels models.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
At least the idea of Chapter-specific upgrade sets is a good one. I will be pleased if they make a decent Salamanders sprue. This also suits my Chaos Marines well because, long story short, they dress up in all kinds of iconography that isn't theirs.

If it's as small as that UM sprue then I don't think I'd call it decent. I'd want shoulder pads, helmets, torsos, lots of drake skin, several flamers/meltas with dragon maws as the muzzles, lots of hammers, tons of iconography for vehicles...you wouldn't be able to fit everything I'd want on a single clampack sprue, it would have to be a full kit like the BA tac squad.

I don't want to know how much the clampacks will be, either. $20 is about as cheap as they get anymore and that's massively overpriced for a single tiny sprue of parts.

The upgrade kits will probably be about the size of one of the sprues from the Sniper Scout squad. It has about the same number of bits as one of those. Look for about $10-$15 USD for one of the kits. Still, they actually look pretty cool. I may pick up a BA upgrade sprue or two. I am a little pissed since I just bought some of the Failcast shoulder pads from GW. They look nice, but are not sized the same as the regular shoulder pads. Still, would like to use the ten chapter specific shoulder pads from the upgrade kit for my Assault Squads that I need to build. If they make IF, I will buy TONS and replace all of the shoulder pads on my existing models with them.

Hmm. I would like to know who plays their ultramarine command squad with:

1. A banner and a bolt gun
2. An apothecary
3. A dude with 2 swords!
4. A dude with 1 chainsword and... oh, that's it.
5. A dude with a bolter?

I mean... WIN!

 Sidstyler wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
At least the idea of Chapter-specific upgrade sets is a good one. I will be pleased if they make a decent Salamanders sprue. This also suits my Chaos Marines well because, long story short, they dress up in all kinds of iconography that isn't theirs.

If it's as small as that UM sprue then I don't think I'd call it decent. I'd want shoulder pads, helmets, torsos, lots of drake skin, several flamers/meltas with dragon maws as the muzzles, lots of hammers, tons of iconography for vehicles...you wouldn't be able to fit everything I'd want on a single clampack sprue, it would have to be a full kit like the BA tac squad.

I don't want to know how much the clampacks will be, either. $20 is about as cheap as they get anymore and that's massively overpriced for a single tiny sprue of parts.

Yes and no. I think you are describing above is comparing these new upgrade kits to the BT upgrade box that they don't come close to competing with. I believe these sets are meant to be along the lines of the Crimson Fist upgrade set where you get 5 backpacks, 5 shoulder pads, 3 heads and a power fist for $14.75 so based on the price increases they have been doing as products switch over from finecast to plastic I think $20 would be right in line with their current pricing model.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, speaking of that, why do the BAs/DAs/SWs even need upgrade sprues? Their respective Chapter-specific kits (two, in the case of the BA's) cover pretty much all the iconography and fancy doo-dads that you could ever want.

Because this way they can drop the Chapter-specific boxes, and just range the generic boxes in store and the upgrade frames through Direct Only, would be my guess.

 Sidstyler wrote:

If it's as small as that UM sprue then I don't think I'd call it decent. I'd want shoulder pads, helmets, torsos, lots of drake skin, several flamers/meltas with dragon maws as the muzzles, lots of hammers, tons of iconography for vehicles...you wouldn't be able to fit everything I'd want on a single clampack sprue, it would have to be a full kit like the BA tac squad.

I don't want to know how much the clampacks will be, either. $20 is about as cheap as they get anymore and that's massively overpriced for a single tiny sprue of parts.

Agreed, this is the way to go. A full kit, with custom front torsos, artificed legs, and the whole nine yards. If they did that, they might convince me to start my ultramarines back up. Which is crazy, because I'd go and buy more dreadnoughts, land speeders, pods, land raiders, storm ravens and all the other stuff I never play, but "need" to complete the army.

As it is, I would rather use Blood Angels parts and play them as vanilla, as IMO this is the most cost efficient + predttiest way to get parts for a specific chapter. Dark Angels, too, but BA Tac and DC boxes have too much good stuff to pass up. Plus, the DA bikes are easy to modify to feel Blood Angels

 Talys wrote:
Hmm. I would like to know who plays their ultramarine command squad with:

1. A banner and a bolt gun
2. An apothecary
3. A dude with 2 swords!
4. A dude with 1 chainsword and... oh, that's it.
5. A dude with a bolter?

I mean... WIN!

Clearly the studio is forging some very interesting narratives.

aracerssx on warseer mentioned "around 10€/11$ price for upgrade kits"

Notice that they included the dagger and a Chapter Champion helm. Basically, they now are having a parts-built Honour Guard. I hope they just fuse the Command Squad and Honour Guard together and let you run a Command Squad with a Chapter Master.


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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
aracerssx on warseer mentioned "around 10€/11$ price for upgrade kits"

Well there you go. That isn't that bad at all for one sprue of parts. It is cheaper overall than their current Failcast shoulder pads, and this includes more parts.

Thats even better. Also making complete kits for a chapter wouldn't make sense from Gw's pov. They would compete with their own basic tac squad. This way you buy the tac squad and the upgrade sprue.

 Talys wrote:
Hmm. I would like to know who plays their ultramarine command squad with:

1. A banner and a bolt gun
2. An apothecary
3. A dude with 2 swords!
4. A dude with 1 chainsword and... oh, that's it.
5. A dude with a bolter?

I mean... WIN!

...I mean... I would. I play a fluffy 3rd Company so would add all those thing just cause. Slap them in a Land Raider Excelsior and call it a day.

At 11 dollars each that is perfectly reasonable, especially when you consider that for FW it was 15+ and it was just for a shoulder pad.

I just hope they release a few of these so I can upgrade all my deathwatch guys with the new kits as I re-make my army(please please please let there be a new DW upgrade sprue like this, I want shoulder pads that actually go on the left arm without looking stupid)