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Auspexes on sergeants is cool. And devastators getting free Heavy Bolters and splitfire is cool. We'll see how these rumours turn out tho.

I think devastaters next week maybe codex week after?

If anyone wants some more pics of sprues or models from this weeks wd just ask and I'll pop more up!

I wouldn't put any significant stock in these rumors beyond them naming things that have already been named.

I for one welcome the anti-air on rocket launchers - that is, if the change is expanded to havocs as well. Since CSM don't get hunters/stalkers and rocket launchers being allready expensive without the flakk missile upgrade, that would actually bump their usefullnes quite a lot.

That one I can believe since Eldar got it, I think?

Tk103 wrote:
If anyone wants some more pics of sprues or models from this weeks wd just ask and I'll pop more up!

Any pics of the assault squad sprue or hints on rules?

 uk_crow wrote:


Anti-air missiles are now free with each missile launcher, even those on land speeder or terminators

Free may be a little too gracious a term. This change already took place in Codex: Craftworlds and while all missile launchers do in fact include Flak, there was a global point cost increase from 15 to 30.

Nothing about rules, no pics of sprues but pics of weapon options on models, sprue comes with 10 bodies, 5 with jetpacks and 5 without! Scenic base options look great and different mark armour.

wow... yeah I wouldnt call the flakk missle upgrade free,

IIRC its 15pts +10 pts to get that already, so a 30 pt ML with them inlcuded is more expensive, and clunky as you dont have the option to not have flakk

What weapons are they pictured with? Particularly the non-sarge models? If melta guns or power swords on regular troops are being showcased, that might hint on the rules.

Try this

This says what's included roughly, the models look great!

Still no artillery besides plasma pistols and flamers, with the option of a grav pistol or plasma pistol on the sergeant, then.

Yup. I’m guessing no changes to gear options then. Hopefully we will get some point reductions, at least on the plasma pistols.

 Bull0 wrote:

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

 RedFox wrote:

Lord Corellia wrote:
Oh boy! I get to shell out for another $60 book soon?! Thanks, GW! What's that? It'll have a dumb-ass name like "Astra Militarium" did?! YAAAAAYYY!

nothing dumbass about latin

and astra militarium is a great name...

For a local defense force.

Yeah, except the guard aren't a "local defense force", they're raised from different worlds and shipped all over the place to fight, this is very well established fluff. I hate the new name but it isn't inaccurate since it roughly translates as "star military".

I could call my sidearm an 11.27mm, it would be an accurate description. Feth it even says 11.27 on the slide.
I could have called the engine in my 1970 mustang a 4.9liter.
Point is accuracy does not equal soul.
I don't care if it translates to sexual tyrannosaurus, it has no soul!
I play Imperial Guard son. I've got a feth pile of tanks to prove it.
Wait, I'm getting off topic! I welcome the chapter upgrade kits. I'm surprised they don't have the depth of upgrades that the BT kit has. I purchased terminators just because of the extra bits on the spru and they were a cool kit.
Welcome to my new Black Templar crusade. Crusade of the the Tyrannosaurus Connubailis

Apparently the new Assault Kit costs more than the Vanguard Veterans, if New Zealand is any indication - over there it's available for preorder now at 83$ (VV are 75$) - includes pictures
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Warhammer-40-000?N=102331+4294967184+4294966940&Nu=product.repositoryId&qty=12&sorting=plh&view=table&categoryId=cat440130a-flat

*edit* and a new bundle as well:

This bundle gives you everything necessary to field the 1st Company Task Force formation from Codex: Space Marines, with two Terminator Squads, one Terminator Close Combat Squad, two sets of Sternguard Veterans and two sets of Vanguard veterans - thirty-five miniatures in total.

So with the sprue leaked over at Bolter & Chainsword

I like them, a good update.

But for a moment, let's see how wrong first rumors from Mr. Warboss was.

Assault Marine Box
-5 Miniatures - Correct.
-Hands and Arms seperate like Tactical Marine Box - Wrong.
-5x Bolt pistols & Chainswords - Correct.
-2x Plasma and Grav Pistols - Wrong.
-Same CCW like Tactical Marine Box - Chainsword? Correct?
-Many Head and Breastplate options - Yeah, correct in some way.
-Most Bitz are Mk6 - 2/5, so no.
-no Power Axe - Wrong.
-no Shield - Wrong.
-no special Weapons - Wrong, there are flamers (finally)

Ouch, yeah, pretty off on this one!

WindsOfFury wrote:
So with the sprue leaked over at Bolter & Chainsword

I like them, a good update.

But for a moment, let's see how wrong first rumors from Mr. Warboss was.

Assault Marine Box
-5 Miniatures - Correct.
-Hands and Arms seperate like Tactical Marine Box - Wrong.
-5x Bolt pistols & Chainswords - Correct.
-2x Plasma and Grav Pistols - Wrong.
-Same CCW like Tactical Marine Box - Chainsword? Correct?
-Many Head and Breastplate options - Yeah, correct in some way.
-Most Bitz are Mk6 - 2/5, so no.
-no Power Axe - Wrong.
-no Shield - Wrong.
-no special Weapons - Wrong, there are flamers (finally)

The Assault Marines are up on GW's New Zealand page:

WindsOfFury wrote:
So with the sprue leaked over at Bolter & Chainsword

I like them, a good update.

But for a moment, let's see how wrong first rumors from Mr. Warboss was.

Assault Marine Box
-5 Miniatures - Correct.
-Hands and Arms seperate like Tactical Marine Box - Wrong.
-5x Bolt pistols & Chainswords - Correct.
-2x Plasma and Grav Pistols - Wrong.
-Same CCW like Tactical Marine Box - Chainsword? Correct?
-Many Head and Breastplate options - Yeah, correct in some way.
-Most Bitz are Mk6 - 2/5, so no.
-no Power Axe - Wrong.
-no Shield - Wrong.
-no special Weapons - Wrong, there are flamers (finally)

lol i think that was a steve the warboss rumor, that guy is full of it

Space Marine 7th Edition Formations

> Terminator Strike Assault
> 1 HQ in Terminator Armour, 2-10 Terminator Units
> Fearless
> Terminator Assault: Up to half of the units in this formation can Deep Strike in the controlling player's first turn. All ranged weapons are twin-linked on the turn that they arrive from Deep Strike.
> Chapter Armoury: Any model can swap their Power Fist & Storm Bolter for a pair of Lightning Claws, Thunder Hammer & Stormshield, or Power Mace & Stormshield at no extra cost.

> Mounted Recon Strike Force
> 1 HQ on a Bike/Jetbike, 2-10 Bike squads, 0-5 Land Speeder Squadrons, 0-3 fliers
> Hit & Run, Scout
> Strike co-ordination: All units in this formation carry a Teleport Homer.

> Chapter Tactics: Dark Angels
> Fearless
> Preferred Enemy: Chaos Space Marines

> Belial & Sammael added to Codex Space Marines.

This may be the end of the dark angels codex. Though i think its probably just rumors made up.

 Orock wrote:
Space Marine 7th Edition Formations

> Terminator Strike Assault
> 1 HQ in Terminator Armour, 2-10 Terminator Units
> Fearless
> Terminator Assault: Up to half of the units in this formation can Deep Strike in the controlling player's first turn. All ranged weapons are twin-linked on the turn that they arrive from Deep Strike.
> Chapter Armoury: Any model can swap their Power Fist & Storm Bolter for a pair of Lightning Claws, Thunder Hammer & Stormshield, or Power Mace & Stormshield at no extra cost.

> Mounted Recon Strike Force
> 1 HQ on a Bike/Jetbike, 2-10 Bike squads, 0-5 Land Speeder Squadrons, 0-3 fliers
> Hit & Run, Scout
> Strike co-ordination: All units in this formation carry a Teleport Homer.

> Chapter Tactics: Dark Angels
> Fearless
> Preferred Enemy: Chaos Space Marines

> Belial & Sammael added to Codex Space Marines.

This may be the end of the dark angels codex. Though i think its probably just rumors made up.

That wasn't even a rumor, just someone thinking "aloud". Disregard.

That is a very nice kit for assault squads. Kinda too bad I don't need any more ASM any time soon. Hopefully the Dev kit will be just as full of options.

WindsOfFury wrote:
So with the sprue leaked over at Bolter & Chainsword

I like them, a good update.

But for a moment, let's see how wrong first rumors from Mr. Warboss was.

Assault Marine Box
-5 Miniatures - Correct.
-Hands and Arms seperate like Tactical Marine Box - Wrong.
-5x Bolt pistols & Chainswords - Correct.
-2x Plasma and Grav Pistols - Wrong.
-Same CCW like Tactical Marine Box - Chainsword? Correct?
-Many Head and Breastplate options - Yeah, correct in some way.
-Most Bitz are Mk6 - 2/5, so no.
-no Power Axe - Wrong.
-no Shield - Wrong.
-no special Weapons - Wrong, there are flamers (finally)

Actually --

- The 2H rifles have a hand attached to them -- look at the flamers; there's also a 90 degree right arm (no hand) on the right side of the bottom sprue, third row, and another one in the center of the bottom half of the first sprue. I see at least one extended right arm with no hand, too (bottom frame, just under the two flamers). It's actually kind of curious, as there are only 2 special weapons, to have 3 arm bots to hold them

- I see one grav pistol on the bottom half of the top sprue, and 3 plasma pistols on the top half of the second sprue. So the grav/plasma isn't exactly right, but it's on the right track

- You can easily mistake Mk 6 upper torso (exposed cabling) for jump harness at a glance. Of course, now that we've seen the colored pics from WD, we know the jump harneses cover an aquilla on four of the uppers. The sprue pics are too fuzzy for me to tell, but I see, to see a bunch of eagles. We can also see now that for the legs, you get 3x Mk 7 and 2x Mk 6 from the knee pads vs greaves. Since the hlemets are facing the wrong way, you can't actually tell how many beakies there are. But I would have been shocked if ASM came mostly with beaks instead of the stormtrooper style.

Overall, I am really liking the 2 frames. It reminds me of the Death Company box, with no bolters (good) and extra upper torsos (good), and scenic base bits (great). The jumpacks look quite bland (cries), as do the backpacks.

I am quite disappointed that there aren't any specials other than flamers :( I would have loved to see grav, plasma, melta.. sigh. I wonder what the rules will be like.

On the bright side, the bolt pistol hand looks quite easy to cut off the hand/gun to make an angled arm to hold a special weapon with an attached hand.

 Ghaz wrote:
The Assault Marines are up on GW's New Zealand page:

Man i really love that shield. and the extra base bits.

Dont reallllly need more marines though so il have to watch out on bitsbay

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
That is a very nice kit for assault squads. Kinda too bad I don't need any more ASM any time soon. Hopefully the Dev kit will be just as full of options.

I need more ASM like I need more tacticals or a root canal :( I think all together, I have 7 or 8 Death Company sets (4 of them from Deathstorm) and a few Sanguinary Guard. But, I'm getting 2 boxes, and trading for 10 more leg pairs, lol. It was those posable legs that got me :X

The last assault marines I painted was maybe10 years ago, though, so I guess it's time to do up some new ones

AS a Raven Guard player, I am disappointed in the lack of MKVI options that were promised.

Have I whined lately about how much I wish the heresy marines in plastic rumor had been true?

I'm hoping the devs have some great options......

General Hobbs wrote:


AS a Raven Guard player, I am disappointed in the lack of MKVI options that were promised.

Have I whined lately about how much I wish the heresy marines in plastic rumor had been true?

I'm hoping the devs have some great options......

no mkvi were ever promised...

you should just pick-up forgeworld raven guard stuff

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/The_Horus_Heresy/Legiones_Astartes/RAVEN_GUARD

 RedFox wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


AS a Raven Guard player, I am disappointed in the lack of MKVI options that were promised.

Have I whined lately about how much I wish the heresy marines in plastic rumor had been true?

I'm hoping the devs have some great options......

no mkvi were ever promised...

you should just pick-up forgeworld raven guard stuff

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/The_Horus_Heresy/Legiones_Astartes/RAVEN_GUARD

One of the rumors was that there would be a majority of MKVI armors on the sprues.

I have some of the FW ones. I like variety and the plain ones let me green stuff feathers etc.