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 Yodhrin wrote:

 scottmmmm wrote:

The iron hands one was quite a good read, and I don't even play them!

There's no need to state the second part of that sentence out loud, it's implied by the first part

I also play Dark Eldar and I thought that codex was a good read too - so I disagree

 Red Corsair wrote:
I wonder if anyone is crazy enough to buy THESE "limited" edition books?

Why you say that? I think people would say we are crazy for buying the non limited edition books. So what's the difference between those who buy limited and those who don't? We are after all paying too much no matter what and where we buy them.

Although while I hope I am wrong, the new Chaplain looks like GW did just what I think they would do: they release 32mm bases because the Space Marines supposedly fill up the bases too much, and then stuff made for the 32mm bases end up having their legs and robes spread so far apart they fill up the new bases just as much as the old.

 pretre wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm surprised I'm the first person (I've noticed) to suggest this, but we've seen upgrade sprues for the non-Codex chapters, we're seeing a DA model muddled in with a C:SM release period, and, supposedly a book after.

Supplements anyone?

I'm okay with this.

Supplement/codexes like the skitarii or harlequin one would be fine. Put the majority of the units in c:sm and the divergent units in the supplemental volume.

This is how it always should have been. The supplement format is perfect for this sort of thing.

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 scottmmmm wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 scottmmmm wrote:

The iron hands one was quite a good read, and I don't even play them!

There's no need to state the second part of that sentence out loud, it's implied by the first part

I also play Dark Eldar and I thought that codex was a good read too - so I disagree

The implication is that an Iron Hands player would not enjoy the Clan Raukaan supplement because of how it completely destroys their fluff, from what I gather. This article sums it up nicely.

Making the broad assumption I'm correct, yes it is a good idea, but the likely outcome is we'll 4 or 5 of the core Legion chapters and perhaps Templars and Crimson Fists and then GW will end up getting...

Ooh, squirrel!

The new Chaplain looks a more true-to-form rendition of the original DE Asmodai model than his latest incarnation, which I definitely like! Gets me nostalgic for my original 40k love, the DA.

If combat shields become 5++ will they actually be worth taking for once?

 Fayric wrote:
That SW upgrade head looks alot like "the guy" on the Prospero Burns cover.
I remember that guys hair ruining the whole cover for me, so...
http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/prospero-burns-mp3.html

All of my troops who wear any appreciable armor are smart enough to wear their helmets anyway, even the space vikings. I got the sprue for the parts that aren't bare heads.


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 Timotheus wrote:

 Timotheus wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
No photos so far but a poster on a german board posted today he already got the White Dwarf for the week after the next and it shows a new Space Marine Librarian model and the aforementioned Dark Angels Interrogator Chaplain for week 3.

I read it and call it BS.

Ok it is actually true. I got a picture of the new Interrogator Chaplain where you can see a part of the staff of the new Librarian...

Spoiler:

I think I like this dude enough to break my rule against non-TDA guys in my Deathwing. He looks good enough, IMHO, to accompany them.

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
If combat shields become 5++ will they actually be worth taking for once?

Is there a rumour that says this?

 Timotheus wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
If combat shields become 5++ will they actually be worth taking for once?

Is there a rumour that says this?

Not that I've seen. I haven't seen anything for the rules to be honest asides from the ones from tg, and even then that's just tg.

 Timotheus wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
If combat shields become 5++ will they actually be worth taking for once?

Is there a rumour that says this?

Not that I know. But I've wanted use combat shields for years but never have because 6++ is not even worth 5 pts...

 carabine wrote:
The idea is an old one, I'm pretty sure I remember transformer and gundam designs from the early to mid 90s doing the same thing.

I can confirm this. Remember Ultra Magnus? He's such a robot, from 1986.

 pretre wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm surprised I'm the first person (I've noticed) to suggest this, but we've seen upgrade sprues for the non-Codex chapters, we're seeing a DA model muddled in with a C:SM release period, and, supposedly a book after.

Supplements anyone?

I'm okay with this.

Supplement/codexes like the skitarii or harlequin one would be fine. Put the majority of the units in c:sm and the divergent units in the supplemental volume.

Would seem silly now that Space Wolves and Blood Angels have 7th ed codices, unless we're looking at less than a year override

But I think Dark Angels are disparate enough that they would still warrant their own codex.

Mymearan wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:


I mean if that's their view fair enough, but I think some people just need to let it go and chill out.

Theres an easy solution to whiny posters: the ignore button.

But how will they defend GW's honor from the meanies?

Yodhrin wrote:

 scottmmmm wrote:

The iron hands one was quite a good read, and I don't even play them!

There's no need to state the second part of that sentence out loud, it's implied by the first part

Exalted!

Hoping for upgrades to chaplains and librarians to increase their stats again. Also, chaplain and librarian specific relics would be awesome, armour and weapons.

Wouldn't it be great for a relic force sword that you can not only activate for instant death, but expend more charges to increase it's stats, +1 S, AP 2, Shred etc.

I just want to be able to run more of my models, and actually as a primary force!!

Imagine if land speeders were actually useful!!

So on the Whats New Today Blog on GW its says

There are new weapons in the box, too, such as the eviscerator wielded by this Sergeant. It’s not just a weapon for officers, though – any Space Marine in the squad can carry this tank-shredding blade.

A whole squad of eviscerator wielding marines is a glorious image!

I wonder if it's a "for every X models in the unit, Y models may replace their Z with an Eviscerator"?

Seeing as powerfists are already 25 points, eviscerators are likely to be 30-something for the added Armourbane rule? Don't think you want too many in the squad with that, or it'll get expensive fast.

 uk_crow wrote:
So on the Whats New Today Blog on GW its says

There are new weapons in the box, too, such as the eviscerator wielded by this Sergeant. It’s not just a weapon for officers, though – any Space Marine in the squad can carry this tank-shredding blade.

A whole squad of eviscerator wielding marines is a glorious image!

And wouldn't you know it, there only appears to be one bit in the box for it.

I'm sure those scenic bits for the bases really needed to be on there, even though all of the Marines are in running poses and there's no need to have them for the "toe on scenic element to represent flight" thing, or else they probably could have fit one or two more in the kit.

And the Sentinels of Terra supplement is gone from the New Zealand store. Darn it, that was my main book for lists.....

 Leth wrote:
I just want to be able to run more of my models, and actually as a primary force!!

Imagine if land speeders were actually useful!!

Honestly, Land Speeders were fine before the changes to Jink, that forced them to snap shoot and they're still decent for how cheap you can make them. What, IMO, invalidated them utterly was when the Tau/Eldar Waveserpent dominance was extremely common.

 Sidstyler wrote:

 uk_crow wrote:
So on the Whats New Today Blog on GW its says

There are new weapons in the box, too, such as the eviscerator wielded by this Sergeant. It’s not just a weapon for officers, though – any Space Marine in the squad can carry this tank-shredding blade.

A whole squad of eviscerator wielding marines is a glorious image!

And wouldn't you know it, there only appears to be one bit in the box for it.

I'm sure those scenic bits for the bases really needed to be on there, even though all of the Marines are in running poses and there's no need to have them for the "toe on scenic element to represent flight" thing, or else they probably could have fit one or two more in the kit.

Maybe the scenic bases are to represent new wargear, you can bludgeon the emperor's enemies to death with rocks! The STC for which has just been uncovered in the data libraries of mars. Praise the Omnissiah!

@uk_crow - I know :( You have no idea how tempted I am to just say screw it and buy 5 damned Assault marine boxes.

I would really love 5 eviscerators, and 5 grav pistols

@Sidstyler - you know, those scenic bases will ultimately save me from spending $1.50 a base to buy Secret Weapons Miniature bases. Even if I don't use them on these models, I'll certainly use them somewhere.

If the cost of minis seems expensive, the cost of bases seems crazy O.o.

 scottmmmm wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 scottmmmm wrote:

The iron hands one was quite a good read, and I don't even play them!

There's no need to state the second part of that sentence out loud, it's implied by the first part

I also play Dark Eldar and I thought that codex was a good read too - so I disagree

I'm not sure what you mean. I was implying that generally speaking, the people who liked the new Iron Hands background were not Iron Hands players - I think I've met, online or off, one single solitary pre-6th 'dex Iron Hands player who had a positive view of the Raukaan supplement. I've not read the new DE 'dex - did they completely gut the background and character of the faction? Because that's what they did to the Iron Hands.

 insaniak wrote:

 scottmmmm wrote:
I wonder how Black Templars are going to fit into all this. I really hope they get a supplement or something. I felt they should have gotten that during the last update, but the schedule was pretty packed.

!

Really, (and as someone with Space Wolf, Dark Angels and two regular Marine armies) I would still prefer them to just roll all of the variants back into the one codex with a trait system ala 4th edition.

Yeah me too I hate all the "special units" they have been making recently just to justify those Codexes..............bloody sleighs and the like

 Mr Morden wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 scottmmmm wrote:
I wonder how Black Templars are going to fit into all this. I really hope they get a supplement or something. I felt they should have gotten that during the last update, but the schedule was pretty packed.

!

Really, (and as someone with Space Wolf, Dark Angels and two regular Marine armies) I would still prefer them to just roll all of the variants back into the one codex with a trait system ala 4th edition.

Yeah me too I hate all the "special units" they have been making recently just to justify those Codexes..............bloody sleighs and the like

Amen to that. And just put Lords of War/ Special characters as White Dwarf/ DLC data sheets.

Marine factions such as BA and DA not having units such as Storm Talons and Centurions is daft.

 uk_crow wrote:
So on the Whats New Today Blog on GW its says

There are new weapons in the box, too, such as the eviscerator wielded by this Sergeant. It’s not just a weapon for officers, though – any Space Marine in the squad can carry this tank-shredding blade.

A whole squad of eviscerator wielding marines is a glorious image!

Sure, repentia marines! Next, an astartes exorcist with AV14 all around, and shooting 2D6 missile instead!

If GW did this properly the codex should contain all of the base units and each founding chapter, both chaos and loyalist, should then have a supplement with their unique units, wargear, relics, characters and formations. That way GW can sell twice as many books. Fat chance of it happening though, GW's track record does not suggest that they will follow this approach, they would rather piece meal out the launches over a number of months to spread out the sales.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 uk_crow wrote:
So on the Whats New Today Blog on GW its says

There are new weapons in the box, too, such as the eviscerator wielded by this Sergeant. It’s not just a weapon for officers, though – any Space Marine in the squad can carry this tank-shredding blade.

A whole squad of eviscerator wielding marines is a glorious image!

Sure, repentia marines! Next, an astartes exorcist with AV14 all around, and shooting 2D6 missile instead!

I'm sure GW will allow Sisters of Bitter Battle to keep that, SM already have this:

or this: