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 ImAGeek wrote:


There's equally as many people who do the opposite and claim any kind of negative view about GW is just 'whining' for no reason. It works both ways.

So both could go into a dedicated thread? Win-Win!!

WayneTheGame wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
For that price they're not even going to give you enough of one gun to outfit the squad?

One day somebody senior at GW will accidently look at the internet and see this 'mistake' and the next thing you know you'll find the codex limits you to the number of weapons in the box

That would be good. The tactic right now is buy multiple boxes to kit out a squad with what you want. They SHOULD either limit it or give every combination so 1 box = 1 unit.

This is GW; they probably think a Devastator Squad toting a Heavy Bolter, Lascannon, Grav Cannon and Multi-Melta (and, of course, a Power Fist and Combi-flamer on the Sarge) is a great unit, as 'you can engage all kinds of targets with their versatile and fearsome firepower!'

To be honest, though, it's had to complain about the volume of weapons in this box. Two sets at most will basically set you up with all the heavies for an army, while even one and a Tactical box gets you 2 nice Dev squads and plenty left over. LC and PC for anti-tank, Grav+PC for anti-TEQ, Grab+HB for volume of fire. The MM and ML are less useful in Dev squads, but fit in Tacs well enough.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:

Wonderwolf wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but does this mean that Blood Angels now have access to grav cannon devastators in their codex?

That would be a huge boost to that codex.

No. No big choppy Eviscerators for your Assault Marines either. Gotta wait those ~12 months or so until Blood Angels get updated to "40K 7.5.-Decurion-Edition"

I figured it was too good to be true. This is one thing I still don't get about releases; as soon as a trend or format develops over a few codicies, the game changes because of a new FOC or unit altering the meta. Don't know if they are trying to shake things up or just incapable f consistency.

Definitely incapable of consistency. Otherwise they would not prevent units from having options that they should have. This is most glaring with the differences between the IoM units and, yeah, yeah, I know I piss you off, warboss, chaos. Why certain first founding chapters to get some (basic) stuff that others do not is beyond me. Same as the "turn in all your razorbacks and plasma cannons and receive these autocannons"-policy imposed on CSM.

No idea on costs yet but a grav cannon and grav gun tactical squad in a rhino is looking quite appealing.

Warhams-77 wrote:
No photos so far but a poster on a german board posted today he already got the White Dwarf for the week after the next and it shows a new Space Marine Librarian model and the aforementioned Dark Angels Interrogator Chaplain for week 3.

Really? A DA character model with the vanilla dex?

 ImAGeek wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
No photos so far but a poster on a german board posted today he already got the White Dwarf for the week after the next and it shows a new Space Marine Librarian model and the aforementioned Dark Angels Interrogator Chaplain for week 3.

Really? A DA character model with the vanilla dex?

The DA codex is being updated as well.

Yes, DA Codex preorder in week 3 or 4 of this release. The SM Codex is week 2

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
I have to agree with you that Dakka does seem to have more than its fair share of really whiny posters constantly bashing GW or anyone who dares to say anything positive about them.

I mean if that's their view fair enough, but I think some people just need to let it go and chill out.

Thing is, every single GW thread descends into a moaning contest, and there are loads of them because they release products every week, so it's just sort of incessant. There should be a dedicated thread for complaining about GW, so every N&R thread isn't bulked out with so many repetitive posts. We get it, they used to be better. We get it, they don't do market research or engage well with their customers. We get it, other companies do those things better. Do we need to hear it every fething week? Probably not.

There's equally as many people who do the opposite and claim any kind of negative view about GW is just 'whining' for no reason. It works both ways.

And maybe if GW actually did those things, there wouldn't be the complaints. We also don't need complaints about people complaining, but we still get them. It's a forum, people are going to post negative things as well as positive. What's the point in a discussion board of everyone agrees? Either don't read it or put up with it, because people will complain as long as there are things to complain about.

Of course there are, I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise. As for your proposition of "just fething deal with it", well, no gak, that's the obvious solution, I just think my idea's better. Your suggestion of "just don't read it" isn't practical anyway - particularly in N&R you check back frequently for new info, and most of the time there isn't new info just a few new posts of people moaning/counter-moaning. If it were in a dedicated place it'd be really easy to ignore or seek out as people so choose.

Well, long time BT player here how bad could it get?
Long time ago they took away my Whirlwind and then a codex later gave it back... bring it on, I am ready.

Gravity gun heavy weapons on devastators is an interesting thought.

What am I using a Centurian for again?

Nothing all that new, if the codex does something to improve the jump-pack troops that may be a good thing... I can remove at least 5 years of dust off mine...

Maybe they are doing Grav bolt rounds...............

Warhams-77 wrote:
No photos so far but a poster on a german board posted today he already got the White Dwarf for the week after the next and it shows a new Space Marine Librarian model and the aforementioned Dark Angels Interrogator Chaplain for week 3.

I read it and call it BS.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Maybe they are doing Grav bolt rounds...............

It squishes you up and then explodes?
There is some serious ammo!

Dark Angels AFTER Codex: Space Marines?

YOU MEAN THE UNFORGIVEN MIGHT HAVE ALL THE GOOD STUFF THIS TIME?!

 Talizvar wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Maybe they are doing Grav bolt rounds...............

It squishes you up and then explodes?
There is some serious ammo!

Isn't that what all explosive ammo does, to a degree?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Dark Angels AFTER Codex: Space Marines?

YOU MEAN THE UNFORGIVEN MIGHT HAVE ALL THE GOOD STUFF THIS TIME?!

Man that would be nice for them for a change wouldn't it

 Kanluwen wrote:
Dark Angels AFTER Codex: Space Marines?

YOU MEAN THE UNFORGIVEN MIGHT HAVE ALL THE GOOD STUFF THIS TIME?!

Nah. They'll just nerf the stuff from C:SM. Can't have a good Dark Angels codex after all!

I wonder if anyone is crazy enough to buy THESE "limited" edition books?

 Timotheus wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
No photos so far but a poster on a german board posted today he already got the White Dwarf for the week after the next and it shows a new Space Marine Librarian model and the aforementioned Dark Angels Interrogator Chaplain for week 3.

I read it and call it BS.

Ok it is actually true. I got a picture of the new Interrogator Chaplain where you can see a part of the staff of the new Librarian...

Not sure I like it. And looks like the new Librarian might be in a very similar pose to the one that came out with the last book.

How does he see where he's going?

 aka_mythos wrote:
How does he see where he's going?

he doesnt need to see, he lets his blind devotion to hunting the fallen guide him.

No problem, Timotheus, cheers and thanks

 Kanluwen wrote:
Dark Angels AFTER Codex: Space Marines?

YOU MEAN THE UNFORGIVEN MIGHT HAVE ALL THE GOOD STUFF THIS TIME?!

Haha yes, chances are better this time. But I guess that road might lead to disappointment so I say the Codex will be subpar nevertheless

Blind faith?

*Ninja'd!

 Bull0 wrote:
Of course there are, I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise. As for your proposition of "just fething deal with it", well, no gak, that's the obvious solution, I just think my idea's better. Your suggestion of "just don't read it" isn't practical anyway - particularly in N&R you check back frequently for new info, and most of the time there isn't new info just a few new posts of people moaning/counter-moaning. If it were in a dedicated place it'd be really easy to ignore or seek out as people so choose.

Yes, indeed. There should be a subforum for this, and all such posts stuffed into there, so people who are looking for actual, you know, news & rumors, don't have to wade through it.

Because you know what, next week, GW is going to release some new models. They're going to be pretty nice, and they're going to be expensive. Whether justifiably so is in the pocketbook of the buyer, but that doesn't seem to matter. You'll have the people who complain because they've been butthurt by GW, the people who complain because they are just tired of 40k, people who complain because in their local meta they can't play with grey plastic, people who complain because they always lose to ideal armies, and the people who complain because they actually want the models but can't justify the price. And it will happen the week after... and the week after...

 Kanluwen wrote:
Dark Angels AFTER Codex: Space Marines?

YOU MEAN THE UNFORGIVEN MIGHT HAVE ALL THE GOOD STUFF THIS TIME?!

It seems it's Blood Angels turn for that this edition.

More grave weapons = I run my green tide more =)

But bright side they are the best counter to wraithkinights and wraith gaurd.

The new poses are really cool and the firing missile launcher is a nice touch.

I wonder if grav cannons on dread naughts will be a thing ?

 Timotheus wrote:


Ok it is actually true. I got a picture of the new Interrogator Chaplain where you can see a part of the staff of the new Librarian...

Spoiler:

I think it has potential, at least it looks pretty good at first blush. I dig the loadout, too: a crozius to strike at I5 and a fist to smash stuff at S8.

Hope it's a new librarian in terminator armor

because we already have one perfectly fine plastic model in power armor

 RedFox wrote:
Hope it's a new librarian in terminator armor

because we already have one perfectly fine plastic model in power armor

It is The guys with the WD and WHV said so - and the model can have either a right hand Stormbolter or an open right hand.

Warhams-77 wrote:

 RedFox wrote:
Hope it's a new librarian in terminator armor

because we already have one perfectly fine plastic model in power armor

It is The guy with the magazine (It's Warhammer Visions, sorry my bad) says the model can have either a (right-handed) Stormbolter or an open right hand.

Like the metal termie Librarian then? That was a pretty cool model.