Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 Talys wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
I just read the White Dwarf post on the website, and saw:

There are new weapons in the box, too, such as the eviscerator wielded by this Sergeant. It’s not just a weapon for officers, though – any Space Marine in the squad can carry this tank-shredding blade.

Oh yes. Yessss.

I am afraid they are probably going to cost like 30 pts or more since they are pretty close to Thunder Hammers (they trade Concussive for Armourbane and Specialist Weapon v. Two-Handed is a wash). Still, I would rather have Death Company with Evicerators than Power Fists or Thunder Hammers.

Sadly... who knows how long it will take before DC get the Eviscerators :(

Probably somewhere around never :( A man can dream, though. I would be much more afraid of a blood-crazed maniac with a giant chainsaw on a stick than one with a big mallet or overgrown hand.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
I just read the White Dwarf post on the website, and saw:

There are new weapons in the box, too, such as the eviscerator wielded by this Sergeant. It’s not just a weapon for officers, though – any Space Marine in the squad can carry this tank-shredding blade.

Oh yes. Yessss.

I am afraid they are probably going to cost like 30 pts or more since they are pretty close to Thunder Hammers (they trade Concussive for Armourbane and Specialist Weapon v. Two-Handed is a wash). Still, I would rather have Death Company with Evicerators than Power Fists or Thunder Hammers.

Don't get me wrong, I think the option of giving Assault Squads a reliable anti-tank weapon is laudable. And not to piss on your Wheaties, but the reason folks don't take Assault Squads isn't because they can't bust tanks. The reason folks don't take assault squads is because they shot to hell before they can do anything. There's a reason that everyone's been playing White Scars armies - because bikes, in addition to having mobility AND the ability to take multiple special weapons, are also more survivable than your standard line Marine. Until you give Assault Marines the ability to survive longer moving up the field toward their targets OR give them the ability to assault immediately after deepstriking, they're still going to be overpriced and underqualified for what you need them to do - even if you allow them all to take eviscerators. I mean, look at Death Company (as noted by casvalremdeikun) - they've got FNP to help out, but you still don't see people winning tourneys with BA Death Company armies.

Argh! And the more I think about this release, the more frustrated I get. Someone made the point earlier about how, 'Shouldn't the Chaplain be on a bike?' - which, frankly is a fairly valid question. And yeah, the new Librarian is....zzzzzzzzzzzzzz, sorry, what? Oh man, so incredibly boring. I mean, I'm not a fan of the recent wave of Power Armor Librarians and I think Tigurius looks ridiculous. The only Librarian that GW's done a decent job with in recent years is Calistarius from Space Hulk. And while we're on that subject, while Calistarius is nice and the new BA Librarian is decent, when you're pushing for points, do you really want to pay a Terminator Armor tax? How often do you think, "You know what this list needs? A librarian in Terminator Armor!" As bad as Terminators are these days, it's a rare occasion that I think that. Seriously - what does GW have against decent-looking Librarian models in power armor?

In the new AM box there is only one eviscerator, so its difficult thinking you can equip every Marine with one.

I'm digging the new Dark Angel Chaplain. Not a fan of the rest of the new SM stuff thus far. The Librarian looks particularly uninspired.

That DA Chaplain though, it just oozes the kind of old school 40k imagery that hits all of my buttons, it looks like it was taken right out of a piece of 2E codex art, which is awesome.

The Deer Hunter wrote:
In the new AM box there is only one eviscerator, so its difficult thinking you can equip every Marine with one.

And yet, I believe, that was what the White Dwarf said

Probably, you can equip your whole Devastator squad with grav cannons or your whole ASM squad with grav pistols, too.

Of course, you could just kitbash yourself 2h chainswords.

 Talys wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
In the new AM box there is only one eviscerator, so its difficult thinking you can equip every Marine with one.

And yet, I believe, that was what the White Dwarf said

Probably, you can equip your whole Devastator squad with grav cannons or your whole ASM squad with grav pistols, too.

Of course, you could just kitbash yourself 2h chainswords.

I don't see why you couldn't give the whole Dev squad grav. With the addition of a Combi-Grav on the Sergeant (or a Grav Pistol), you can be all Grav.

 Talys wrote:
Sadly... who knows how long it will take before DC get the Eviscerators :(

Just wait 2 - n years (where n equals the amount of time it's been since the current Codex came out) and find out!

 Talys wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
In the new AM box there is only one eviscerator, so its difficult thinking you can equip every Marine with one.

And yet, I believe, that was what the White Dwarf said

Probably, you can equip your whole Devastator squad with grav cannons or your whole ASM squad with grav pistols, too.

Of coursie, you could just kitbash yourself 2h chainswords.

the whole ASM squad with grav pistols (or any other special weapon) is not a Space Marines option, only Vanguard has it.
probably is the same as actual codex, 2 plasma pistol or 2 flamer, plus the sergent loadout

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Talys wrote:
Sadly... who knows how long it will take before DC get the Eviscerators :(

Just wait 2 - n years (where n equals the amount of time it's been since the current Codex came out) and find out!

How long did Imperial Knights get?

I just hope for a few little changes that give basic infantry marines a reason to exist at all in the 40k universe.

Knights, monsters and D-weapons are the current norm.
And anything (else) has to be fast to be able to get to objectives.

Any Infantry that is not fast is more or less only good for holding objectives.

I try an army of 6x10 tacticals plus a bit of support like assault marines, a vehicle or two etc. just to see how the current edition and space marine codex works for them.=
No terminators, no bikes, no Thunderfire cannon.
Currently it does not work at all.
It's all way too slow, cannot survive at all against Knights and the only model that can be worthwile is a maxed chapter master with jump pack hidden in a cheap assault marine unit.

One thing might help: the return of what i called "the big equaliser" in 2nd edition: the vortex grenade.
Let it cost 75 points and kill any 1 model it hits or let it return as a D-grenade in assault.
That would change the meta and give assault marines the ooomph they need... ;-)

The Deer Hunter wrote:

the whole ASM squad with grav pistols (or any other special weapon) is not a Space Marines option, only Vanguard has it.
probably is the same as actual codex, 2 plasma pistol or 2 flamer, plus the sergent loadout

Obviously, it's not currently an option I was being cynical, and suggesting this would be a way to get people to buy 5 boxes (to get 5 Eviscerators or 5 grav pistols). I don't actually think this would happen; otherwise, they'd give the squad the Scatter Laser treatment, and add 5 grav pistols. Besides, people would just buy 6 boxes of assault marines to get 30 jumping grav pistols.

The actual text said something like, it wasn't only the sergeant that could have the Eviscerator. So in all seriousness, it could EITHER mean, multiple eviscerators, or 1 eviscerator, but it can be on the sergeant or another squadmate.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't see why you couldn't give the whole Dev squad grav. With the addition of a Combi-Grav on the Sergeant (or a Grav Pistol), you can be all Grav.

Who knows, but we're all dying to find out The Dev squad has always had one of the worst kitting combinations in the game, in terms of buying 1 box and being able to build anything resembling the squad that you really want. Unless you really want variety, that is!

I suspect that it will be like the current loadout -- any 4 can take heavy weapons, sergeant can take ranged weapon. Still, they could limit it to 1 Grav Cannon (with Grav amp!), if they felt it would be too powerful to load out 4 to a squad.

We still haven't heard anything on if those Warhammer World tanks are going to see general release, have we? I want Hit and Run or Counter-attack on my Blood Angels or Split-Fire on my Crimson Fists!

To be honest, I don't mind them doing the two year update thing as long as they fix the rules for the armies, but it feels like 2 steps forward and 3 steps back most of the time lol.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
To be honest, I don't mind them doing the two year update thing as long as they fix the rules for the armies, but it feels like 2 steps forward and 3 steps back most of the time lol.

You say that now, but when they replace the ruleset again next year, then do WH41K the year after that, you might be singing a different tune.

 Talys wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
In the new AM box there is only one eviscerator, so its difficult thinking you can equip every Marine with one.

And yet, I believe, that was what the White Dwarf said

Yep, Eviscerator can be taken by any Marine in the squad. Already confirmed: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/What's-New-Today-from-the-White-Dwarf-Team/2015/05/27/The-true-Angels-of-Death

The Chaplains cloak dosent work for me at all.
Would have preferred it left off.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Talys wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
In the new AM box there is only one eviscerator, so its difficult thinking you can equip every Marine with one.

And yet, I believe, that was what the White Dwarf said

Probably, you can equip your whole Devastator squad with grav cannons or your whole ASM squad with grav pistols, too.

Of course, you could just kitbash yourself 2h chainswords.

I don't see why you couldn't give the whole Dev squad grav. With the addition of a Combi-Grav on the Sergeant (or a Grav Pistol), you can be all Grav.

That's the theme of my new chapter, the Earthen Giants, and their Chapter Master, Ser Issakus Newtonion.

Requizen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Talys wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
In the new AM box there is only one eviscerator, so its difficult thinking you can equip every Marine with one.

And yet, I believe, that was what the White Dwarf said

Probably, you can equip your whole Devastator squad with grav cannons or your whole ASM squad with grav pistols, too.

Of course, you could just kitbash yourself 2h chainswords.

I don't see why you couldn't give the whole Dev squad grav. With the addition of a Combi-Grav on the Sergeant (or a Grav Pistol), you can be all Grav.

That's the theme of my new chapter, the Earthen Giants, and their Chapter Master, Ser Issakus Newtonion.

Battle cry: "Let fall the apple of wrath!"

Hints for the week after the Devs (WD Issue 72) are:
- Utilizing the Empyrean (translated from german)
- Space Marines
- 'Eavy Metal

Age of Sigmar Preorder starts 4th of July.

 Timotheus wrote:
Hints for the week after the Devs (WD Issue 72) are:
- Utilizing the Empyrean (translated from german)
- Space Marines
- 'Eavy Metal

Age of Sigmar Preorder starts 4th of July.

I'm guessing that first part is a reference to the plastic librarian.

 warboss wrote:

 Timotheus wrote:
Hints for the week after the Devs (WD Issue 72) are:
- Utilizing the Empyrean (translated from german)
- Space Marines
- 'Eavy Metal

Age of Sigmar Preorder starts 4th of July.

I'm guessing that first part is a reference to the plastic librarian.

Quite likely.

 Timotheus wrote:

 Talys wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
In the new AM box there is only one eviscerator, so its difficult thinking you can equip every Marine with one.

And yet, I believe, that was what the White Dwarf said

Yep, Eviscerator can be taken by any Marine in the squad. Already confirmed: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/What's-New-Today-from-the-White-Dwarf-Team/2015/05/27/The-true-Angels-of-Death

Is it just me or is the formatting on this completely screwed up? Every block of text under the assault marine images cuts out midway through a sentence.

Edit: checked in both Chrome and Firefox, same result. GW's website is truly terrible.

Worked fine for me this morning.

Yeah, I think it's you. I'm checking in Chrome.

Eviscerator bit looks ugly. Won't be rushing out to buy any of the new Assault Marines!

 CalgarsPimpHand wrote:
Is it just me or is the formatting on this completely screwed up? Every block of text under the assault marine images cuts out midway through a sentence.

Edit: checked in both Chrome and Firefox, same result. GW's website is truly terrible.

I have the same pro

I am running Firefox on Archlinux. Which operating system are y

Actually, the block of text under the assault marine with plasma and chainsword is okay. It is the others that are cu

 CalgarsPimpHand wrote:
Is it just me or is the formatting on this completely screwed up?

Nope, it's pretty embarrassing, I'm seeing the

 Timotheus wrote:
New Librarian in Terminator Armour:

Spoiler:

Price: ~ 24€


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Better pics of the upcoming Interrogator Chaplain:

Ok. Initial reaction time.

Librarian - Hrmm. This looks...fugly. The cape is confused. The model looks oddly awkwardly and disjointed. That's not a fluid model at all. Ew. No. It looks cumbersome, it looks disjointed, the cape looks confused and against the motion of the miniature and the armament is...odd.

Interrogator Chaplain - This I like. It's more flavour for the Dark Angels, it looks nice and gothic and hey, it's going fluid motion.

How odd that they show two miniatures that are just on opposite ends of the quality scale. One great, one gash.

I've had no issues with the text on the website. Seems some people can't wait for a reason to moan about GW get a bloody grip guys.

@DarkStarSabre - I think the libby is pretty par for the course on what I'd expect of a librarian in terminator armor. I think I see your issue with the cape, but I kind of liked the curl forward (makes it look like the wind is blowing from the back). It's a change from the usual cape thing anyhow, and that's cool.

I think most peeps pretty much agrees the chaplain is exactly what you'd imagine one in your mind's eye of a DA chaplain! I like him too.

@General Kroll - people with formatting problems are using uncommon browsers and/or operating systems, and Dakka just hasn't tested some bit of HTML against it. **shrug** half the internet doesn't appear as intended when you use uncommon setups, so you either suck it up, or use what everyone else is using