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Corporation vs Z'Zor as the 2 player starter box and the opening hard plastic salvos in the Warpath KS has long been rumoured.

 NTRabbit wrote:
Corporation vs Z'Zor as the 2 player starter box and the opening hard plastic salvos in the Warpath KS has long been rumoured.

Corp. Vs. Z'zor Warpath starter rumor was debunked back during the DZ2 KS.

It will be a thing, but it will be for a future DZ product, not Warpath.

I'd be ok with it, if the corporation dudes look like the ones I already have a bunch of. It's a solid design, I hope they don't butcher it.

Bit concerned though, as the scifi plague zombies are nearly double-thick in relation to corporation marines. Sure they got all ripped after getting plague infected, I get that, but their guns and helmets are hugemongous comparatively too.

Fingers crossed =/

I'd prefer something like KoW2.0 with the more or less 'build your own starter set out of starter armies and the smaller core pledge' sweet spot pledge..


I'd rather get my Zzor in Deadzone as Alex C suggests.

With all the problems mantic seem to have picking and packing it might be wise for them to sacrifice customisability to actually enable them to get the right stuff to the right people

 Alex C wrote:

 NTRabbit wrote:
Corporation vs Z'Zor as the 2 player starter box and the opening hard plastic salvos in the Warpath KS has long been rumoured.

Corp. Vs. Z'zor Warpath starter rumor was debunked back during the DZ2 KS.

It will be a thing, but it will be for a future DZ product, not Warpath.

I don't recall that

I think customization of orders work if things are bagged and labeled.

I honestly think at least with the last wave of DBX they just tossed everything in for everyone, regardless of pledge. At least that's what it sounds like happened. If I remember my shipping order had the bonus teams listed on there, that I never placed an order for. Everything else on the list was correct.

I do hope that whatever the sweet spot comes with is something new we haven't seen. After all, that's what the funding goal is for, right? Could still see corp vs zzor then...

 NTRabbit wrote:

 Alex C wrote:

 NTRabbit wrote:
Corporation vs Z'Zor as the 2 player starter box and the opening hard plastic salvos in the Warpath KS has long been rumoured.

Corp. Vs. Z'zor Warpath starter rumor was debunked back during the DZ2 KS.

It will be a thing, but it will be for a future DZ product, not Warpath.

I don't recall that

I do.

Stated by Mantic in the comments.

I would love to see a Corp. Vs. Z'zor Warpath starter, but they specifically said no, it will be a DZ product.

I rarely, if ever, read the comments on a large kickstarter. Thousands of posts a day that are 90% inane and unrelated crap that could go on a forum, 8% creepy and disturbing requests from backers I'd rather not associate with, and then 2% stuff that's useful but tends to end up in the next update anyway.

I'm getting that way too.

Especially for CMON projects, Black Plague comments section was unbearable to look at...

 NTRabbit wrote:
I rarely, if ever, read the comments on a large kickstarter. Thousands of posts a day that are 90% inane and unrelated crap that could go on a forum, 8% creepy and disturbing requests from backers I'd rather not associate with, and then 2% stuff that's useful but tends to end up in the next update anyway.

It's a shame so many kickstarters are so negative. The Reaper bones comments were an entertaining, tremendously amusing experience, replete with hints, memes, and bizarre cults of personality. I'm hopeful this one will also be a delightful experience.

Video game KS comments are weird. The Shadowrun HK comments section post KS was taken over by this over-bearing guy who insisted on treating it like his personal chat room. As soon as you would attempt to discuss the game, bugs, etc, he would come at you in character and tell you not to drop spoilers and telling people to use forums for their game discussion. I was like.. wait.. what???

A lot of the other miniature game KS comments sections turn very quickly into squabbling bits of arguments over minutia and things that nobody will care about in a year or two. People flame the companies because this was a little off or that came a week or two late. (yea, sometimes this type of thing is deserved) Then there's an update and suddenly everyone loves the company/person/whatever again. It's like only bipolar people post on KS anymore.

There used to be a feature to show you only a project creator's comments, but I guess it got lost somewhere when Kickstarter got on the "let's make our website less functional and harder to navigate" bandwagon that is all the rage these days.

you can still see them, but it's a bit more of an effort

click on the 'created by link' to get the about the creator popup

then click on the company name on the popup

this takes you to the page where you can access just their comments

(but yes it's really annoying KS has made this harder....

I'd blame the smartphone using community as most of these sort of changes are meant to help them,

but this one is just dumb and down to KS being stupid)

Trawled through the Mantic comments and on April 6th they wrote the following:

Mantic wrote:Corp and Z'zor are reserved for a future Deadzone set

...unless they change their minds, like they did with this KS being now. Or any number of other things.

I wonder if this is being Kickstarted now in reaction to the Gates of Antares Starter Boxed set that's about to be released? Or if it's a factor at all?

Still, it'd be a far better thing if they could get Dungeon Saga/DZ2 out the door before starting this one off. I'll probably do an Adam and back for the base "sweet spot" and then revisit it during the last moments of the Pledge Manager.

I could kinda feel myself backsliding until I remembered that the Delta Green kickstarter is supposed to go live in September, as well.

With very few exceptions, I'm just about done with Kickstarters by and large now.

 Azazelx wrote:
I wonder if this is being Kickstarted now in reaction to the Gates of Antares Starter Boxed set that's about to be released? Or if it's a factor at all?

Nope, it's as simple as that the KS they had scheduled for now has been pushed back (whatever their next licensed product is).

 Azazelx wrote:
...unless they change their minds, like they did with this KS being now.

True. I'd love for Z'zor to be in Warpath and Mantic are certainly not averse to changing their mind. However, they need to get HIPS infantry for Plague, Asterians, Marauders and possibly Rebs funded along with HIPS vehicles for every current faction. I think new factions are likely to be low priority.

Are we really expecting Plague HIPS? Plague is a DZ faction. I know it received a Warpath list, but it doesn't make much sense to have it as a primary faction. If you're fighting Plague on the ground at army scale, you've already lost. The Asterians keep cloaked planetkiller ships everywhere to just wipe any system where this kind of thing happens.

I believe (iirc) that Plague Stage 3A HIPS were on the "possible" list for DZ2 but the funding didn't get high enough to warrant putting them into the KS. Again, just going by what I remember from the comments section.

I think Plague make more sense than Rebs for a mass battle game. Getting to plonk down hordes of Plague Zombies, Stage 2 and 3 mobs and the new Aberrations would be very cool. I'm sure the fiction is malleable enough to work around the Asterian situation.

Zombies are already HIPS ofc

We've seen concept art, and in one case renders and a real master, of a FF Tank and APC, Asterian Tank and APC, and Enforcer Flyer, so I'd be pretty confident they'll all be in there somewhere.

Anything else is mostly me wishing, until they start putting out promo art for the project.

We've also seen concept art of an Asterian large battle droid, and we know that Plague 3A were pretty much next for the DZ kickstarter before it stalled out too much.

The plague 3A are the really terrible ones with the Mantic Torsos, right? Seems like A pretty big waste of resources making them into plastic.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The plague 3A are the really terrible ones with the Mantic Torsos, right? Seems like A pretty big waste of resources making them into plastic.

They are the basic Plague infantry, if that's what you're thinking of.

And potentially improving them by making a HIPS kit is the opposite of a "waste of resources", imho.

If Plague are going to be a Warpath army, they need a 3A HIPS kit as they are the core of a Plague force.

And aside from that more than a few of us actually quite like the 3A's. Sure, they could be better if mantic toned down the look a little but I'm perfectly happy with my bunch of them as they are.

Yep Plague need 3As in HIPS and it's a perfect opportunity to refine their look get the same sculptor as the zombies on the job. Once the Plague have their core troops they are pretty much sorted they get the gunship and battle tank options but these will just be re purposed Corporation vehicles.

I'd be down for a crap load of plague troops. Not into doing a hundred of them in restic, but plastic I could see. Fun to paint. Looking forward to kitbashing in those dbx mutant bits in with my remaining restic supply.

 GrimDork wrote:
I'd be down for a crap load of plague troops. Not into doing a hundred of them in restic, but plastic I could see. Fun to paint. Looking forward to kitbashing in those dbx mutant bits in with my remaining restic supply.

Not even gonna use the mutants for DBX, they're gonna be my 2A's for Warpath