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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 18:07:19
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Dankhold Troggoth
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darkon wrote:The GCPS Trooper WIP looks amazing, really nice detail, of course these are the CAD renders and not actual physical models. The front bit on some of the guns look like a lasgun, which I do like  and the gun's themselves are very nice.
As for the grenades/shells on the left forearm - I think maybe on the legs, top of the thighs would be cooler? or both?
Personally, the more grenades and ammo present on the model the better  ... some of my favourite models are the old GW Metal IG Stormtroopers below:
FYI there was a Google spreadsheet on the Mantic Warpath Kickstarter page comments section to help with calculating base + add-ons, I don't know how it compares to the Pledge Manager yet.
Welcome to Dakka, darkon! And those oldschool models are great, if these look like them once produced that would be awesome
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 18:10:31
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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GrimDork wrote:Anvil is in resin(right?) and has a weird (subjective, I know) aesthetic I can't get into. The fingers should be changed though. Being a digital sculpt that should be fairly easy right? We've just got to hound them? Sure they could have someone in house fact checking them but as long as it gets done.
Honestly the large shells on his arm bother me more, unless they're adding a grenade launcher profile and he's it. I don't see a second barrel but he does have a different gun. Should be laser tech though, always has been. Seems to be the first thing that gets forgotten by writers and artists though, maybe it isn't heavily emphasized in their instructions/requests/however you tell/ask them to do what they do.
Pretty much your entire post hinges on the idea that Mantic has some sort of creative director with the responsibility and power to oversee their production. I love that kind of dry humor. Bravo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 18:30:22
Subject: Re:The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I think someone needs to build a Leftorium Battlezone for all those Southpaws that have enlisted in the GCPS
Since funds aren't due til the end of February, I think I'll be holding off to see how things progress on some of the other things I'm interested in.
Having backed both the original Deadzone as well as Deadzone Infestation at a Lockdown pledge, I'm not sure what else I'll really need at this point for Firefight at least.
I've got scenery for just about any size game now, and a good 20-30+ figures for just about every faction that I'm interested in... yet I pledged for an Advanced Warfare pledge.
Depending on the heavy weapon teams and Mule, I may go with the Marines just for something different. Hopefully they'll all have a closed helmet option!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 19:31:14
Subject: Re:The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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highlord tamburlaine wrote:Having backed both the original Deadzone as well as Deadzone Infestation at a Lockdown pledge, I'm not sure what else I'll really need at this point for Firefight at least.
I got Heracles, FF Vehicles, GCPS BG, an Interceptor, 10 Plague 3G, 12 Asterians, Murderbirds. Basically, all the new stuff that I wanted and enough to push my existing Enf/ FF into Warpath range. Automatically Appended Next Post: I almost got 3 of the rat wheels but passed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 20:09:49
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Violent Enforcer
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>On another note, could someone who loves the murder birds explain their appeal to me?
Brings back scary memories from playing Resident Evil 1
Also, ragged birds are perfect for a Necromunda setting.
... did I just hint at my age
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 20:13:17
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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It was nice to see shipping was cheaper than I expected as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 20:13:36
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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kendoka wrote:>On another note, could someone who loves the murder birds explain their appeal to me?
Brings back scary memories from playing Resident Evil 1
Also, ragged birds are perfect for a Necromunda setting.
... did I just hint at my age 
I guess I see them fitting a post-apocalyptic or fantasy setting better. They'd be fantastic for a post- apoc setting. But it's nice that people like them.
Are these officially PVC plastic, or do they fall under Mantic's "we haven't decided yet?" material category?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 20:16:04
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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IN the KS they were metal, but now no material is listed,
so PVC it is... or maybe cheese ? who knows
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 20:18:50
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Those murderbirds look nice but I'm giving them a pass until we see the actual models. They'd make excellent Razorwing flocks for 40K
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 21:25:37
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Fresh-Faced New User
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: GrimDork wrote:Anvil is in resin(right?) and has a weird (subjective, I know) aesthetic I can't get into. The fingers should be changed though. Being a digital sculpt that should be fairly easy right? We've just got to hound them? Sure they could have someone in house fact checking them but as long as it gets done.
Honestly the large shells on his arm bother me more, unless they're adding a grenade launcher profile and he's it. I don't see a second barrel but he does have a different gun. Should be laser tech though, always has been. Seems to be the first thing that gets forgotten by writers and artists though, maybe it isn't heavily emphasized in their instructions/requests/however you tell/ask them to do what they do.
Pretty much your entire post hinges on the idea that Mantic has some sort of creative director with the responsibility and power to oversee their production. I love that kind of dry humor. Bravo.
Hey. Mantic here. I got the bent fingers and all of the superfluous equipment fixed this morning :-). Keep the comments coming, there's still time before these go into tooling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 21:27:37
Subject: Re:The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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CLOSED HELMETS.
Maybe a few spare pouches we can overburden the marines with?
News on heavy weapons teams?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 22:09:40
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I agree the closed helmets look a lot better. The odd one open is OK but the majority by far should be closed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/22 22:38:22
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Yeah definitely make 8 helmets 5 closed 3 open, for example. However many fit make for a while squad of closed.
Excited for some of these little sci-fi dudesmen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 00:03:13
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Mantic Stew wrote: BobtheInquisitor wrote: GrimDork wrote:Anvil is in resin(right?) and has a weird (subjective, I know) aesthetic I can't get into. The fingers should be changed though. Being a digital sculpt that should be fairly easy right? We've just got to hound them? Sure they could have someone in house fact checking them but as long as it gets done.
Honestly the large shells on his arm bother me more, unless they're adding a grenade launcher profile and he's it. I don't see a second barrel but he does have a different gun. Should be laser tech though, always has been. Seems to be the first thing that gets forgotten by writers and artists though, maybe it isn't heavily emphasized in their instructions/requests/however you tell/ask them to do what they do.
Pretty much your entire post hinges on the idea that Mantic has some sort of creative director with the responsibility and power to oversee their production. I love that kind of dry humor. Bravo.
Hey. Mantic here. I got the bent fingers and all of the superfluous equipment fixed this morning :-). Keep the comments coming, there's still time before these go into tooling.
Will there be options for left-handed as well as right-handed riflemen? (There really only needs to be one per sprue to be better than none.) Will there be enough fully-enclosed helmets for each GCPS trooper?
Can we take a look at the Asterian infantry plastics and give feedback before they go into tooling, too, please?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 00:08:13
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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I wouldn't mind having multiple headgear uptions. Enough closed helmets for all of the figures on a sprue, a few open helmets, and some hats. A couple field caps and a beret or two would be nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 03:07:52
Subject: Re:The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@Mantic / Stew - I think it would be better if you made the Asterian droid torsos and hips/legs separate, rather than one piece. As one piece casts the poses will be extremely limited (you could only vary the head and arm positions), which will make large armies of the droids less diverse looking and less appealing.
Any chance that you could separate the chest/torso from the hips/legs, or at least consider it? Instead of just five fixed poses, separating the two allows for an infinite variety of poses.
One piece:................................... Separated:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 12:53:43
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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I only pledged a dollar for a look, but those murderbirds have got me thinking, they'd add a nice bit of character to a battlefield as just terrain pieces. It's not a battlefield until the carrion feeders arrive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 13:36:47
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Dakka Veteran
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I'm in agreement with the "enough closed helmets for the whole sprue, plus two or three open/helmetless options" sentiment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 16:44:00
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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from facebook Mantic Games 4 mins · . Right now we're working on customer service issues and massive dispatch operations. We know that there have been problems and we are working as hard as we can to get them resolved, but we also know that what we have now isn't good enough. Ronnie goes through what's happening and changing in the year to come in this blog post https://manticblog.com/?p=14756&preview=true
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 16:50:36
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Fixture of Dakka
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Seem to remember hearing the same thing last year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 17:35:49
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Major
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You're probably remembering https://manticblog.com/2015/01/08/customer-service-at-mantic/ which is *technically* still this year, but close enough to last year for government work.
There's more people in the newest post versus "we added a guy" so there's that much in the way of movement. Overall though I'd have to say it's an on-going issue for Mantic, which I don't think is a shocker to anyone in this thread.
In other news, the GCPS troopers are intriguing and I'd like to see more of them. Unfortunately Dropfleet is probably going to be shunting funds away from WarPath due to the way the PMs are reasonably close together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 19:19:24
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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How many KS have Mantic completed now? 8,9? How long have they been about now? They should have things like quality control, art direction and KS packing pretty darn spot on by now, but they haven't yet. Because of this I passed on the DZ:I, KoW2 and only put in £1 (sorry I mean $1) for the WP KS. I want to support them but I'm trying hard to find a reason to finish of my Enforcers, just need some Jetbikes and some of those transports (won't touch the Path Finders as I really dislike them). As Jake T didn't have a hand on the rules I may try them out. I've been mostly lucky with my KS deliveries but my mates have not been, one example is my friend was a backer for the KoW2 KS whilst I was not, I preorderd the book through the website and I received it on release day whilst my friend is STILL waiting for his KoW2 pledge...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 19:39:53
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Matt Gilbert was hired as well, I know enough about him to know that he'll do a damned good job of keeping things on track as Mantic expands.
He's probably the single most instrumental person as far as the success of KoW 2.0 goes, and that was while working for free in his spare time (something he's been doing for the past 5 years or so).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 20:20:53
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Ahh good to see the recognition/officialness, seems like a household name when it comes to Mantic stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 20:37:28
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Do their KS usually overshoot the promised release date? This is my first KS rodeo with them and while September 2016 is still some time off, I do wonder..
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 20:41:07
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yes and no. Usually they won't have quite *everything* done for their release date and things, say, may slip from a Wave 1 to a Wave 2. Or things might be reorganised etc.
However, offhand, I can't think of a situation where, say, the Boxed Game component of a kickstarter has ever been late (in fact, sometimes it's been very early!). It's more situations lie, say, in Deadzone where the plastic models for the Enforcers which were due to be in the boxed game weren't ready, so they shipped the boxed game with resin ones instead.
The plastics were then (finally) ready for the 3rd wave.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/23 20:56:58
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I'm in for some GCPS stuff (Chard, some troopers, a Mule and that flyer), which is all concept art and renders at this point.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/24 03:26:46
Subject: Re:The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Congratulations to Matt!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/24 04:13:08
Subject: The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hope there's lots of closed helmet options, faceless troops are the best troops.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/24 05:29:37
Subject: Re:The all new Mantic Games - Sci-Fi N&R thread - GCPS Trooper and Plague Murder Birds preview page 48
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I hope he doesn't move to Nottingham from France for this job.
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