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That's the assumption. It has a weapons modding station on the left and a perk tree thing on the right, with a power armour building thing in the middle. I doubt that there will be extensive armour crafting, but given that earlier in the trailer you see a set of T-51b that has T-45d parts I'm assuming that the player can build a set of power armour. ...Though of course why you'd do that when there's plenty of guys toting about in armour already is up in the air (perhaps the Brotherhood don't turn up till late in the story, so before that you have to loot damaged sets. You need a set of power armour for a reason in the story too).
Eugh, I hated Power Armour in the games. Though I'm the person who has their characters toting about in hoodies with armour plates stuck in them when they could be carrying a minigun (which FYI, one of the ones seen at the start of the trailer held by one of the power armoured soldiers is under a tarp in that garage to the left under the guns) and suited up like a tank. ...At least in Skyrim that made sense as the best armour wasn't the best at keeping you warm (in fact Fur had the highest warmth rating, though eventually I found Snow Bear armour which was great).
Co'tor Shas wrote: Also, I was thinking, perhaps the garage with the PA is some sort of player-owned building, not dissimilar to the lucky 38 suite in FO:NV?
But hopefully more like FO3's player housing, where it could be customized to a decent degree with various themes.
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bittersashes wrote:One guy down at my gaming club swore he saw an objective flag take out a full unit of Bane Thralls.
Oh yeah, remember that these are still a thing... That image attached to the first one is definitely from the game (I thought it as real when I first saw it too, as it looks like it was made for Skyrim). Presumably the lines are just there as placeholders obviously, but youknow. =P
Assuming the guy didnt guess some things correctly.
Save transfer? Who the hell still has a save from Fallout 3?
A lot of that's hit or miss. A top down classic mode? Who the hell is going to sit there and go through each and every interior location so that the ceiling and floor above the player won't clip with the camera? That's just being silly.
The main story line is for men only, but after that you can be a woman? No, just no. That'd just be asking for a ton of flak off the SJWs. Either voice both or none at all, a sex change afterwards would be dumb as hell.
Eugh, I could run through that and call bull on other bits, or point out the others that are left to be confirmed, but what's the point? There could be an element of truth there. It could be that that employee left so early in development that major changes took place later. It could be all true and I'll be facepalming at Bethesda's decisions (seriously save porting, why? For a game that's years old too no less. The only way to play a woman is to sink in tons of hours then at the end you can have a sex change? So you need to earn the right to play as a woman then? That'll go down well...). If this were true then this person would be pulled up in court, though I guess the comments on that thread already blew it out of the water. =P
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Assuming the guy didnt guess some things correctly.
Save transfer? Who the hell still has a save from Fallout 3?
A lot of that's hit or miss. A top down classic mode? Who the hell is going to sit there and go through each and every interior location so that the ceiling and floor above the player won't clip with the camera? That's just being silly.
The main story line is for men only, but after that you can be a woman? No, just no. That'd just be asking for a ton of flak off the SJWs. Either voice both or none at all, a sex change afterwards would be dumb as hell.
Eugh, I could run through that and call bull on other bits, or point out the others that are left to be confirmed, but what's the point? There could be an element of truth there. It could be that that employee left so early in development that major changes took place later. It could be all true and I'll be facepalming at Bethesda's decisions (seriously save porting, why? For a game that's years old too no less. The only way to play a woman is to sink in tons of hours then at the end you can have a sex change? So you need to earn the right to play as a woman then? That'll go down well...).
Well the release schedule is correct (so far), along with the location and the voice acting.
Time will tell.
A classic version of the game would appeal to me if it were like the original (I play the first 2 fallout games a lot) I may actually purchase it.
I will wait and see, but so far this person has been correct...
Theorectically a top town perspective could work. Theorectically. See there's a thing games do (not Skyrim I'd note, but it was modded in) where they make anything the player can't see not exist. So in that case you do that for everything above the player, and so there your top down camera can actually see the player. However, other than that being a total drag to go through every cell in the game making them compatible (for a feature players may not even use, and bearing in mind that Bethesda developers need to make two locations a day from scratch, so that's even more work), it just wouldn't work. See that rocket that's crashed through the ceiling and is blocking your path? Yeah its above you so let's make it invisible. Oh wait why is there now an invisible wall stopping me from moving that way? If it was ever an idea at Bethesda then it sunk early on by my guess as like hell would I spend that amount of time working on it when there's so much other crap that that time could be going towards (then go on and ask the third party developer they have make the spin off to the exact same thing).
So yeah, prove me wrong on that one, but it just doesn't seem realistic at all.
And aye, reading that post, like I said there's stuff I can't immediately call bull on, but there's plenty in there sounds dubious. I'd note that saying the game would be set in Boston doesn't prove this guy's right. Hell I knew the damn thing would be set there when bloody 3 came out with all the references to it. Having Bethesda employees turning up about Boston, before that thread was posted IIRC, was also sort of a hint... Three Dog also had confirmed early on, Madison Lee IIRC seems like she'd fit if they were tying the games together, though frankly that person could say anything they wanted and it'd take till release date for them to be proved too (and as they were posting a year ago they'd have the satisfaction of people peening at them without needing to provide proof).
To me its like them pulling out some known facts, adding in the odd bit that could make sense then making up some nonsense off the back of people's faith in the first two. If they're correct then they're correct, hell they could be an ex-employee and they're deliberately trolling fans. If they are telling the truth though that's some poor design decisions on behalf of Bethesda that are entirely unnecessary.
Wyrmalla wrote: Theorectically a top town perspective could work. Theorectically. See there's a thing games do (not Skyrim I'd note, but it was modded in) where they make anything the player can't see not exist. So in that case you do that for everything above the player, and so there your top down camera can actually see the player. However, other than that being a total drag to go through every cell in the game making them compatible (for a feature players may not even use, and bearing in mind that Bethesda developers need to make two locations a day from scratch, so that's even more work), it just wouldn't work. See that rocket that's crashed through the ceiling and is blocking your path? Yeah its above you so let's make it invisible. Oh wait why is there now an invisible wall stopping me from moving that way? If it was ever an idea at Bethesda then it sunk early on by my guess as like hell would I spend that amount of time working on it when there's so much other crap that that time could be going towards (then go on and ask the third party developer they have make the spin off to the exact same thing).
So yeah, prove me wrong on that one, but it just doesn't seem realistic at all.
And aye, reading that post, like I said there's stuff I can't immediately call bull on, but there's plenty in there sounds dubious. I'd note that saying the game would be set in Boston doesn't prove this guy's right. Hell I knew the damn thing would be set there when bloody 3 came out with all the references to it. Having Bethesda employees turning up about Boston, before that thread was posted IIRC, was also sort of a hint... Three Dog also had confirmed early on, Madison Lee IIRC seems like she'd fit if they were tying the games together, though frankly that person could say anything they wanted and it'd take till release date for them to be proved too (and as they were posting a year ago they'd have the satisfaction of people peening at them without needing to provide proof).
To me its like them pulling out some known facts, adding in the odd bit that could make sense then making up some nonsense off the back of people's faith in the first two. If they're correct then they're correct, hell they could be an ex-employee and they're deliberately trolling fans. If they are telling the truth though that's some poor design decisions on behalf of Bethesda that are entirely unnecessary.
The leaked info is 11 months old. How many people knew anything about fallout 4 11 months ago...
As I said they are correct so far, lets wait and see.
As for the top down view, no idea on if it could work or not. Most games I play are top down bar about 4 but they are clearly designed for top down view so you are probably right.
It will be interesting to see if this person is correct though.
And like I said, they're just repeating known facts, making informed guesses about others and the rest they're pulling out of their butt...
Fallout 4 will also be available on Playstation 3 and Xbox 360. This version is also being developed by Bethesda Game Studios, but will release a year after the advanced version.
Despite that the Trailer only lists PS4 and XBox one and developing two versions of the same game is, as I said before, a complete waste of time. Do I seriously have to go through every statement in that post and point out the flaws, or can I not just say that it full of bull and if Bethesda did take those design decisions then I'd have to say they've made the wrong choices. =/
Its a bit moot really, as all we'd be doing would be arguing over speculation, and its only 10 days before the press conference. =P
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Wyrmalla wrote: And like I said, they're just repeating known facts, making informed guesses about others and the rest they're pulling out of their butt...
Fallout 4 will also be available on Playstation 3 and Xbox 360. This version is also being developed by Bethesda Game Studios, but will release a year after the advanced version.
Despite that the Trailer only lists PS4 and XBox one and developing two versions of the same game is, as I said before, a complete waste of time. Do I seriously have to go through every statement in that post and point out the flaws, or can I not just say that it full of bull and if Bethesda did take those design decisions then I'd have to say they've made the wrong choices. =/
The leak said that the old consoles release would be a later release. Maybe thats why?
I simply put it out there dude... so far correct. I did not know, 11 months ago, people knew boston was the setting and that it would have a trailer release now (which apparently they knew, however I remember people still speculating constantly even a few months ago).
I guess we can be sure when we get a hint of the story (to verify the factions) or more info.
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Yup, in other words I'm not touching that thing with a ten foot pole anymore. =P
Meh, whatever, as a comparison for this trailer, here's Skyrim's one.
What can I point out? Most of the player character's animations (when as the Dragonborn fighting the dragon, and those first person running bits) weren't in the game. There's Imperial Soldiers rather than the Hold Guards. By and large though most of the locations by the looks of it appear as they were in the game (to the point that NPCs are in their default positions). The NPCs at the Solitude Mill probably don't cut wood that often in game maybe (just showing off animations for the sake of it), but it looks representational enough. Though that was of course made by Bethesda and not a third party, but I'll assume, bar like with the Skyrim one the odd falsity, that 4's trailer's representational enough.
Que what they did with Skyrim then, releasing a couple of images each month before the release, which will be great. If there's gameplay at E3 like they did with 3 then I'll be smitten too. Right now though the big thing for me is seeing screenshots of all the armour so I can turn them into models. That and seeing how they're re-imagined recurring things like the Power Armour, and hell just bits and bobs like the Vaults and vending machines (which can quite easily exist in the same world as 3's objects due to well, in the real world there isn't just one type of microwave out there is there? Nah there's thousands).
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Wyrmalla wrote: Hah, I'm still reading the drivel on NMA and finally someone actually said this looks like "Skyrim with guns!". ...They're literally repeating the same arguments that they made when Fallout 3 came out
Given that FO3 was essentially Oblivion with guns I think that postulating that FO4 would be Skyrim with guns is a perfectly valid argument. Personally I find Skyrim a reasonable game, not great but not terrible either, I expect the same from FO4.
Well, with all the crafting formulas and other things you could do similar to Skyrim, FO:NV was more like Skyrim with guns in that kind of comparison.
FO-4? hard to say what they may try yet. Trailer doesn't quite show interactions in game.
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
I am looking forward to this. Played through FO3 a number of times.
Skyrim I didn't enjoy so much, I felt like it had too much to do. I got so hung up and trying to complete the side quests I had started that I never finished the main game as I got bored. Hopefully it sits nicely between FO3 and Skyrim in the mission amount. And I hope everyone is killable
Jehan-reznor wrote: Fall out 3 loved the world and the story, the game play, the interesting side stories, the huge easteregg stuff.
Hated the buggy engine, problems with added content messing with the main story and the crashes did i mention the crashes?
Would be nice if this time the setting is a different country
(oh it is Boston)
You want a post-apocalyptic game that revolves around an aesthetic of 1950's Americana Extreme + Nuclear Scare 50's Era to be set in another country other than America ? That seems a strange request to me. It would completely change the design aesthetic.
There's a couple of games that do post-apocalyptic in other other countries: S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Metro Last light come to mind, i'm sure there are others. However i wouldn't hold your breath for Fallout to be hitting foreign shores any time soon.
Also, Boston isn't a different country. Boston's awesome. If you want Fallout set on another planet though, I recommend Fallout: Rhode Island, the Cranston Chronicles.
Wyrmalla wrote: Hah, I'm still reading the drivel on NMA and finally someone actually said this looks like "Skyrim with guns!". ...They're literally repeating the same arguments that they made when Fallout 3 came out
Given that FO3 was essentially Oblivion with guns I think that postulating that FO4 would be Skyrim with guns is a perfectly valid argument. Personally I find Skyrim a reasonable game, not great but not terrible either, I expect the same from FO4.
Pretty much. I hope that FO4 is more of the same. Won't buy at full price / release, as it will take a few weeks until modders solved the expectable problems the game has, but afterwards, it'll be a great game as usual offering endless hours of fun. Get it on PC. Getting it on console is, sorry, stupid. You pay more and get far, far, FAR less. Judging from the graphics, it will easily run on a pc that's ~5 years old, thus you don't need to invest hundreds of dollars in a new machine either Get it on PC, get tons of awesome mods and enjoy an outstanding game.
meh it's likely going to be subpar experience the way Skyrim was. Graphics might be a bit nice, but then like in NV and Skyrim you get very generic stuff.
And Bam....Steam got pre-purchase rights....interesting. When you consider that there's just the trailer released and about zero other info, not even hardware requirements.
Doctadeth wrote: And Bam....Steam got pre-purchase rights....interesting. When you consider that there's just the trailer released and about zero other info, not even hardware requirements.
I don't preorder games. I hardly buy games at release. But hell, I make exceptions...
Skyrim I bought after it came out, but the pressure of everyone else in my college class got to me.
New Vegas I bought before release as the Nexus was running a scheme at the time that they could take some of the profits that way.
4? Feck, damn right I'm buying this thing as soon as. Pre-order? Huh, well if Steam running a discount or if there's a shoddy bonus. I'd be buying it the day it comes out anyway, so the pre-order saves me 10%.
I don't however pre-order games and buy them at all, but with this series (and the Elder Scrolls, bar the online one) I'll make an exception. Everything else? Well I'm not really quite so geared up to play those so I can wait for a Youtube review to come out. This? ...I'll be sitting for the rest of the year till it comes out checking Bethesda's Blog and the wiki every other day for screenshots and other crumbs.
Wyrmalla wrote: I don't preorder games. I hardly buy games at release. But hell, I make exceptions...
I know it's tempting (given Bethesda's excellent track record) but don't pre-order, you're basically going into this game blind wait till you see some reviews so you can make an informed decision. Pre-ordering is bad because it means you're buying into hype and allows companies to be less
accountable as they already have your money before release so there is less incentive to deliver a quality product.
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Ratius wrote: Im going to get F3 again having not played it in some years in anticipation.
Will I be disappointed or does it still hold up well?
I personally like Fallout: New Vegas more, but Fallout 3 is great too. The game play is great but the graphics are kind of dated now (great for the time though).
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I personally like Fallout: New Vegas more, but Fallout 3 is great too. The game play is great but the graphics are kind of dated now (great for the time though).
Mods. Update graphics from mediocre / dated to "Wow, this actually looks good!".
Wyrmalla wrote: I don't preorder games. I hardly buy games at release. But hell, I make exceptions...
I know it's tempting (given Bethesda's excellent track record) but don't pre-order, you're basically going into this game blind wait till you see some reviews so you can make an informed decision. Pre-ordering is bad because it means you're buying into hype and allows companies to be less
accountable as they already have your money before release so there is less incentive to deliver a quality product.
Like I said, I know not to pre-order, but well I couldn't give a toss in this regard. I've played the last half dozen games by this company and well, I know that I'll be playing this game for the next year at least...
So aye, for all your Total Biscuit quotes are, I'm throwing it out of the window for this one exception. ...Just because I'm a cheap git and want that 10% off and so I can pre-install the thing and not have to wait for twelve hours installing it because my connection sucks (hmn, or maybe I just buy it from GAME so that I have the disk actually...). =P
Ratius wrote: Im going to get F3 again having not played it in some years in anticipation.
Will I be disappointed or does it still hold up well?
Its still decent, and mods solve a lot of issues. Ive had some issues getting it to run on windows 8 though, just a heads-up. Wont work outisde of compatibility mode.
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
I'll preorder if I get something nice out of it otherwise I'll just buy it day of. It'll be off steam, so I won' have to worry about them running out.
In other new, you guys should really check out this gallery, it's a comparison of the compressed and uncompressed versions of the trailer, the non-youtube version looks damn amazing.
https://imgur.com/a/kFqfZ#1
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BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
One its an entirely different breed, and two well what kind of dog walks all the way from DC to Boston? That and my assumption at the moment is that the whole game's set before 3 (you're either that pre-war guy or his child, hmn, or an Android...), so ah, hmn. =P
You obviously never watched "The Littlest Hobo".
Ask yourself: have you rated a gallery image today?
Boston's awesome. If you want Fallout set on another planet though, I recommend Fallout: Rhode Island, the Cranston Chronicles. 
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