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I'm sorry, but I couldn't resist this after reading about not caring. A feed from PB HQ's computers:



Someone with Photoshop skills can probably correct the face. It really does almost seem like that's part of their business plan though.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So much negativity here

Let's all remember why we got into this in the first place.

says not available in my country.

I really don't understand how Palladium stays in business. I didn't even know they were still in business until this Kickstarter. I bought some of the Robotech rpg books back in the late '80s but never played a game. I've seen forums posts going back 10 years and it sounded like they would fold any day. Employees taking voluntary layoffs, crisis of treachery, free lancers not getting paid - I would hate to work at such a place. I wish I had read theses things before backing this joke. Live and learn.

darkminstrel wrote:
"Ah, but now that Grab Bag season is over, we can focus all of out attention on finishing books"

Apparently YOU don't understand how much effort it is to look through their warehouse to find the most random crap they can find to round out the full retail value of those Grab Bags(tm).

You think a used mouse trap (sorry, Multiversal Mouse Entrapment System) can just be tossed into a box to fill out $2.99 in value? Of course not. Wayne needs to visit Amazon, find the most expensive mouse trap he can, mark it up by 30% (by hand, calculators can't be trusted), and then add it to the packing slip. Then Kevin needs to make sure Wayne isn't fething it up.

Basically, each Grab Bag encompasses, like, four hours of labor. Which you don't even get charged for.

But do you appreciate it? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Now apologize.


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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So much negativity here

Let's all remember why we got into this in the first place.

What, a copyright takedown? I guess you're right, actually. That is why we're dealing with a bunch of halfwits like Yune and Simbieda.

Merijeek wrote:
What, a copyright takedown?

Plays fine for me.

 Forar wrote:

Merijeek wrote:
What, a copyright takedown?

Plays fine for me.

Apparently "Victor Entertainment" disagrees with Murikans.

I can see it just fine as well though...

 Alpharius wrote:
I can see it just fine as well though...

Well, in case the local equivalent of [Mod Edit - Please don't use that as some sort insult - Alpharius] shows up to call me a liar...

FWIW, I got the same thing that Merijeek got. Some folks are lucky, some ain't.

So, with both Jaymz and Mike distancing themselves from the RRT Volunteer Service, I wonder who (if any) is going to step up? Because as Kevin said on his last partially informative KSU, "Ultimately, the fate of Robotech® RPG Tactics™ rests in your hands. It always has. We need you. "

It seems clear that without people donating time and energy, even less is going to be done. Not sure if GenCon 2015 got missed because of lack of effort, or PB not caring, but it's clear that them not having an event at Adepticon was because noone was willing to step up (they made several appeals to have someone do it). And heaven forfend someone from Palladium run it!. With no POH this year, we're less than two months from Events Registration closing for GenCon 2016 (March 14th). An entire year without organized events at major conventions isn't going to restart jack.

I mean, I have heard about people running events at local conventions (an event in Pasadena last April that the TO said "ended up with too few players for a full tourney", and GASPCon last November, of which I've seen nothing reported), but that's the totality on the PBForums outside of Adepticon and POH last year. Maybe more HAS happened, but helpful hint to TO's, if that's the case? Keeping it a secret DOES NOT HELP. Doesn't help the tournament, and doesn't help show an active gaming scene.

There are still people happy to volunteer for PB, and I honestly applaud that effort. But they don't seem to have anything more than a passing interest in this particular product (preferring the RPG side of things). It just seems that Palladium don't care about ostracizing the people who give them the most value for effort. And going forward, for this to be anything more than a dismal failure, they're going to need to gain and RETAIN people like that.

Well, for PB to run a RRT tournament, they'd have to have someone on staff whose familiar with the system. Honestly, beyond the freelancer who "wrote" the rules, they have no one - their business is RPGs and shipping out reprinted product from yesteryear.

What would be cringeworthy - but totally believable as something PB would do - was if NMI stepped up (or was pushed forward) to handle a RRT tournament. Unless he's been practicing since that video a few months back, that could just kill the tournament scene dead - well, deader than it already is.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

I should have bought the Bandai kit:

I bought four of those a few years ago when the price went from the $80us mark down to $30. They look great beside a 1/200 figure, not so much 1/285.

Well we could step up and be a Megasaur, er, Megaversal Ambassador!
http://www.palladiumbooks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=581:so-you-want-to-be-a-megaversal-ambassador&catid=52:weekly-updates&Itemid=183
Come drink the Kool-Aid!
I am sure anyone doing a brief stint packing wave 1 backer rewards would get preferential treatment.

I think I would take a hit for the team just so NMI does not try to teach anyone RRT again <shudder> that video was painful.
He is... very "lifelike", his excitement in things is very well... "contained".
I think a little bit of his soul was extracted when pounding the "ban" button a few too many times.
I think he needs to be forced to play Pokémon for a few days to get a spark back into his eyes... even if it results in insanity.
Please reference my "Meet the Pyro" video earlier, that too would apply.

I am finally getting my paint area / stuff organized again after the move, I could continue painting my RRT models: I have no hate for them.
My only regret (other than the money) is not getting the Gnerl, Super Valk and Armored Valk (especially it).
The other stuff would have been nice but those are what I fixated on as a kid.

Okay, I am babbling now... wave 2 or down with PB!

darkminstrel wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

I should have bought the Bandai kit:

I bought four of those a few years ago when the price went from the $80us mark down to $30. They look great beside a 1/200 figure, not so much 1/285.

1/200 is probably a better scale anyways - thats what all the prepainted, preassembled gashapon figures seem to be in anyways. And they have the benefit of having the entire line already in existance, along with all the other Macross series...

I got involved with two games last year..... All Quiet on the Martian Front and Robotech RPG tactics! Woops!

I told myself when I finished my Tripods and Americans i would turn to Robotech. I finished them, and then I picked up some more tripod and Americans instead of doing the Robotech stuff.

Those tripods just go together way too smooth, the Robotech stuff scared me!

Wake me when the MACII comes out!

 Easy E wrote:
I got involved with two games last year..... All Quiet on the Martian Front and Robotech RPG tactics! Woops!
I told myself when I finished my Tripods and Americans i would turn to Robotech. I finished them, and then I picked up some more tripod and Americans instead of doing the Robotech stuff.
Those tripods just go together way too smooth, the Robotech stuff scared me!
Wake me when the MACII comes out!

AQOTMF looked like a lot of fun, I think I am envious.

I think there is now sufficient supporting material at DrivethruRPG to help with identifying proper mating parts so assembly now is much better than it was.
I would suggest assembly of the Zentradi pods as the easiest, the Battleoids are not bad (the matching of the feet was brutal before!).
The most rewarding but most fussy is the Veritechs, it is a great result but yes, parts are on the tiny side.
I broke the one of each Glaug chin guns of two sets before I figured out how to remove it without breaking it in half.
The fits to the Scout pod... ummm... some issues there and a couple parts that break by the force of looking at them.
I have finally figured out a way but I am waiting for my patent to go through before I say anything.

I would so love a MAC but even I had a brief moment of sanity in the backer kit and thought "There is no way those turkeys would get this done never mind right!".
One of few moments I can feel satisfaction with this kickstarter being right.

If anyone is interested in taking over administrative duties of these two sites please PM me.

RRT Proboard

http://robotechrpgtactics.boards.net/

RRT Wiki

http://robotech-rpg-tactics.wikia.com/wiki/Robotech_RPG_Tactics_Wiki

I will also be giving up the Robotech and Macross II RPG Groups I run and Facebook if anyone is interested in runing those as well.

Hobbies should be things we enjoy. Hopefully not having to worry about those (and helping build/sustain a community through brute force) will alleviate some of those stresses.

Obviously you care about the IP and wanted the game to at least be big enough to have chatter other than about the ongoing shenanigans, so I'm sincerely sorry to hear it.

Robotech's been so popular in my area, that you could say people have been selling their box sets for 20 dollars. And failing to find buyers.

I sold mine for blisters of somebody's x-wing miniatures and a soda. You could say I felt bad for scamming someone by taking their valuable and supported FFG Miniatures and precious carbonated beverage in exchange for mouth watering value, but isn't that the apparent spirit of Robotech RPG Tactics(tm)?

You and me both but yeah it is just not worth the effort anymore.

Speaking of which the Robotech and Macross II FB RPG groups have been handed off leaving just the RRT Proboard and Wiki

 Killionaire wrote:
Robotech's been so popular in my area, that you could say people have been selling their box sets for 20 dollars. And failing to find buyers.

So it's actually worth less than a Sedition Wars boxed set? Awesome. Never thought I'd see that.

In wondering if I should offer such a trade, I'm kinda thinking I'd be ripping myself off, because someone would probably take SedWars just for the bases...

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

Indeed, KK. Now where is the Destroid Monster that I paid PB for back in 2013? Oh yeah, nowhere. More than 2 years later.

I should have bought the Bandai kit:

I may yet do so.

I tell you this, if I ever see Kevin, I'm going to give that gakbag a piece of my mind, and he's going to fething take it.

I got 3 of them.

Counts as Manticores coming one of these days.

And yeah still waiting for my RTT Monsters... sadly that's the kit that broke my will and got me to join the KS. If I'd known about the Bandai re-release then I might never have kicked in.


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Merijeek wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I can see it just fine as well though...

Well, in case the local equivalent of [Mod Edit - Please don't use that as some sort insult - Alpharius] shows up to call me a liar...

Sorry guys, it works in India but yeah, is blocked when I use my US VPN.

So have another take.




That must be 10d6x10 points of Mega-Damage right there

6d6x100 per cannon ith amulti kilometer blast radius the way I wrote it up,...it is firing the equivalent of nukes from those canons.

 Killionaire wrote:
Robotech's been so popular in my area, that you could say people have been selling their box sets for 20 dollars. And failing to find buyers.

I sold mine for blisters of somebody's x-wing miniatures and a soda. You could say I felt bad for scamming someone by taking their valuable and supported FFG Miniatures and precious carbonated beverage in exchange for mouth watering value, but isn't that the apparent spirit of Robotech RPG Tactics(tm)?

I'd buy a RTT starter set for $20. There are lots of useful bits for conversions in there.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

Indeed, KK. Now where is the Destroid Monster that I paid PB for back in 2013? Oh yeah, nowhere. More than 2 years later.

I should have bought the Bandai kit:

I may yet do so.

I tell you this, if I ever see Kevin, I'm going to give that gakbag a piece of my mind, and he's going to fething take it.

I got 3 of them.

Counts as Manticores coming one of these days.

And yeah still waiting for my RTT Monsters... sadly that's the kit that broke my will and got me to join the KS. If I'd known about the Bandai re-release then I might never have kicked in.

Exactly. I recall checking the Destroid Monster pricing during the KS, and seeing RRT as a relative bargain. Now, of course, that's totally bunk.

 Easy E wrote:
Wake me when the MACII comes out!

Way it's going, we all might be dead already by then.


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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
So it's actually worth less than a Sedition Wars boxed set? Awesome. Never thought I'd see that.

Yeah, the SedWars starter has nice scenic bases, that for the price of the box are an actual okay deal. These, though...

I actually quite like the sedition wars game too. Didn't regret backing it at all.

I guess if they do rebrand RPG Tactics as a Rifts product they'll do some cheapo thing like standees or a PDF of standees you can print out and cut and assemble yourself.

It's sad. I wish that whoever owns the Macross IP would talk to FFG about doing a new major project, and rescind prior licenses for damage to the brand along with a "here's a nickel for your trouble kid" payment and get us some games and anime up in the USA finally.

Carl Macek is NOT going to come back from the dead with a killer Robotech idea for HG to push the idea forward. Palladium is hapless and in a nostalgia based cult like boutique market AT BEST.

I doubt we'll ever seer any Southern Cross or Mospeada stuff or even the rest of the Macross stuff.

From what I hear PB want to sell us GHQ modern stuff in Robotech packaging with a card for use as filler units. Like we can't get a Junky, Dragon II, Karyovin, or the APCs on the SDF1 or the Comanchero attack helicopter even. We get Apache's, Strykers, Bradleys, M113s, HEMTs, Cougars, A-10s, and probably MATV's.

Bleh. Meanwhile we get no Fast Pack or Armored Valkyries or the Oguroid Valkyrie thing.

This sucks.

RIght now Battletech has one of the best box sets I've ever seen for $60 FLGS retail, $45 street. Sure it's silly looking robots but the sculpts are plastic just like the metal versions. fairly clean, one piece and the map boards are hard coated thick cardboard like you'd find in a Memoir '44 box. This is with Catalyst in a controversial and tennuous position after some shenanigans and a big Alpha Strike box set on the way that it is hinted will have decent acceptable new but non-infringing versions of the old classic unseen and some clans.

Palladium is probably selling mostly TO Battletech fans who go nuts trying to put the things together.

This is a train wreck.


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 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Killionaire wrote:
Robotech's been so popular in my area, that you could say people have been selling their box sets for 20 dollars. And failing to find buyers.

So it's actually worth less than a Sedition Wars boxed set? Awesome. Never thought I'd see that.

In wondering if I should offer such a trade, I'm kinda thinking I'd be ripping myself off, because someone would probably take SedWars just for the bases...

Um...if you had trouble putting SedWars together then you want nothing whatsever to do with what's in the Robotech RPG Tactics box.



Lots of tiny, fragile. split pieces on fat 1967 type car-model runners.

And for all that work you get something kind of mushy detailed with seams for you to putty and sand.



And the directions included suck and are wrong about a couple of things.

 Stormonu wrote:

1/200 is probably a better scale anyways

I was actually hoping RRT would come out in 1/200 since I have so many gashapon and 3d printed Mechwarrior figures. I think they did 1/285 so they could market to the Mechwarrior crowd wanting classing Unseen figures.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Killionaire wrote:
Robotech's been so popular in my area, that you could say people have been selling their box sets for 20 dollars. And failing to find buyers.

So it's actually worth less than a Sedition Wars boxed set? Awesome. Never thought I'd see that.

In wondering if I should offer such a trade, I'm kinda thinking I'd be ripping myself off, because someone would probably take SedWars just for the bases...

Sedition wars has gotten a bad rep on its minis from people saying they are not easy to assemble, me and a few others found out they are a dream to assemble compared to the RRT UEDF, as to the Sedition wars games when I find deals on em I buy them, picked up a bunch of $18 ea. shipped and its so much plastic goodness I will have to get too in a while.