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I'm wondering... what is Kevin gonna said today on PWU? Will he copypaste the BS that he threw on the KS?

Moving on... Can someone tell me the difference between FUD, WS&F and WS&FP (or any other colour) in shapeways? Specially regarding quality of each other compared
I've read some reviews, but can someone tell me his/her own experience? Maybe post a pic?

Thanks in advance!

(Of course this is moving forward from the fake update we got recently. Still looking to complete my own wave 2 xD)



EDIT:


Now on FUD, 18 USD. That's why I'm asking all this, lol

You want the FUD, it's as basic as that.

WS&F is a course material, looks/feels like fiberglass held together by toothpaste (it feels rough, like a cat's tongue). If you don't prime it, paint can bleed into adjacent areas. Personally, the few items that I bought I was afraid to prime and lose the soft(er) details.

If you want pictures, I would suggest looking at Mel's Miniatures store on Shapeways - he has several examples of what items look like in WS&F.

This was exactly was I was looking for stormonu:



Thanks for pointing it out. definitely going for FUD.

 n815e wrote:

Merijeek wrote:
N815e reported him. As far as Kickstarter is concerned, comments are totally superfluous - just kill anything that is mildly complained about and continue your day.

That's news to me.

Genius that he is, NMI probably reported us and got nabbed by them because he can't help but insult people with every post.
He is so used to being able to apply a double standard that he just assumed the rules didn't apply to him there, either.

For some reason, it appears that I mentally mixed up a picture of a Japanese woman with gigantic breasts and a picture of Rand on a cyclone. What that says about me, I prefer not to think about.

Hah!

 megatrons2nd wrote:
To bad Kickstarter only caters to project creators, and backers are chumps to them too. I already know that it will not go anywhere.

At this point, I'm less interested in supporting games KS that aren't presales or otherwise really exotic and compelling. Especially if it isn't provably rules complete and models ready at the time of launch. The increasing price points that are going over $100 require extra diligence and caution, and I'm no longer excited enough to gamble.

Apart from proven small companies with excellent products and good communications (so, at this point, Petersen Games) I'm pretty much done.

Too many scams, too much incompetence, and no accountability.

Hell, I think I've backed one non-PG KS since too many projects went fully farcical. And that one was "100% ready to print" and still didn't manage to make it to print for a good six months because the creator wanted to continue to dick around with the art for six months.

So, yeah, I need a huge incentive to even consider crowdfunding at this point. And since it's become a preorder retail system, that pretty much isn't happening.

Before I went into this, I had already made up my mind to not back any KS based on what I was seeing. Dummy me saw "Robotech", "miniatures" and "others are doing the heavy lifting".
This thing only confirms for me that KS are not worth the risk.

But Petersen Games, yeah, I'm a late backer.
To me, that is basically a preorder for a proven company and a game that is largely done and has already had a production run (I have the base game to prove it).

This would be so much easier if Kevin Sembeidia and Kickstarter didn't have the same initials

Yeah, RRT, the Tom Reidy fiasco, All Quiet on the Martian Front and the AVP KS have turned me off from any more KS. Which is a shame, because I had such a good experience with Zombicide 2 & 3.

KS's attitude (both of them) have just shown me it's too much of risk to bother with; I'll just show a little patience and wait for retail anymore.

I'll pledge for more CAV Bones..through the PM. Many of the walkers with less obvious canopies could work as primitive or advanced Mecha, and the tanks work pretty well. I've also got one of those little Gunpla tripod tanks with a huge cannon that could pass for a counts-as Southern Cross hovertank.

The best part is that all of those minis are cheaper and easier to assemble, while looking every bit as mouth-wateringly detailed.

 Stormonu wrote:
This would be so much easier if Kevin Sembeidia and Kickstarter didn't have the same initials

On the plus side, it makes commented on the donkey-cave who took their cut of our money and don't care about the completion of the rewards in any meaningful fashion easy to comment on since it applies to both to varying degrees.

Yeah, RRT, the Tom Reidy fiasco, All Quiet on the Martian Front and the AVP KS have turned me off from any more KS. Which is a shame, because I had such a good experience with Zombicide 2 & 3.

KS's attitude (both of them) have just shown me it's too much of risk to bother with; I'll just show a little patience and wait for retail anymore.

That's quite a tabletop list you've got there. Off the top of my head, you're just missing the ice age mammals and heroquest fiascos to round out the bunch.

200 pages of frothy non delivery from PB, since the old one was capped at 200 do we get to start a new thread now?

Oh man, thread #3 upcoming? Crazy.

Sure seems silly to have two more threads than there are delivered waves...

At least we're making steady progress... complaining!

Got another email non update from Palladium..
Still waiting for the day for a KS backer to loose it at a convention....
How is the Savage Rifts KS going...maybe he should gave the Robotech backers free stuff from it..
Since that is the only thing really getting worked on... Oh ya.. And Rifts Poker cards...

"Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Wave 2 Paper Game Pieces join Rifts® World Book 29: Madhaven™, Rifts® Ultimate Edition and 160+ other PDF titles, RRT stuff, G.M. helper kits and free material on DriveThruRPG.com right now! More Rifts®, Robotech® and other Palladium game titles, paper miniatures and fun coming to PDF in the weeks and months ahead. Watch for them"

"FREE Robotech® RPG Tactics™ paper game pieces, force organization tables, stat cards, rules and special items – with more coming soon!

FREE 12 highly-detailed, comprehensive Robotech® RPG Tactics™ assembly instructions for all the Wave One mecha – available now.

FREE Robotech® RPG Tactics™ color guides are available now."


The RRT news from the update.

Maybe those instructions will help me get back to assembling my stash. I can't believe he beat Kingdom Death Monster to instruction delivery.

Aren't those instructions from back when the fridge art theft/robotech guy got fired happened early in 2015? Or are they new ones? Or are they still patting themselves on the back for work done a year and a half ago that should have been done correctly 2 years ago with the original release?

I'm pretty sure they are the same old instructions.

 warboss wrote:
...they still patting themselves on the back for work done a year and a half ago that should have been done correctly 2 years ago with the original release?

You couldn't have said it better.

T___T

 warboss wrote:
Aren't those instructions from back when the fridge art theft/robotech guy got fired happened early in 2015? Or are they new ones? Or are they still patting themselves on the back for work done a year and a half ago that should have been done correctly 2 years ago with the original release?

also they didn't do them a fan friend of theirs did it for them.

 Swabby wrote:
"Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Wave 2 Paper Game Pieces join Rifts® World Book 29: Madhaven™, Rifts® Ultimate Edition and 160+ other PDF titles, RRT stuff, G.M. helper kits and free material on DriveThruRPG.com right now! More Rifts®, Robotech® and other Palladium game titles, paper miniatures and fun coming to PDF in the weeks and months ahead. Watch for them"

"FREE Robotech® RPG Tactics™ paper game pieces, force organization tables, stat cards, rules and special items – with more coming soon!

FREE 12 highly-detailed, comprehensive Robotech® RPG Tactics™ assembly instructions for all the Wave One mecha – available now.

FREE Robotech® RPG Tactics™ color guides are available now."


The RRT news from the update.

I don't think they ever posted Force Orgs and it was #1 thing that should have been done.

 warboss wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
This would be so much easier if Kevin Sembeidia and Kickstarter didn't have the same initials

On the plus side, it makes commented on the donkey-cave who took their cut of our money and don't care about the completion of the rewards in any meaningful fashion easy to comment on since it applies to both to varying degrees.

Yeah, RRT, the Tom Reidy fiasco, All Quiet on the Martian Front and the AVP KS have turned me off from any more KS. Which is a shame, because I had such a good experience with Zombicide 2 & 3.

KS's attitude (both of them) have just shown me it's too much of risk to bother with; I'll just show a little patience and wait for retail anymore.

That's quite a tabletop list you've got there. Off the top of my head, you're just missing the ice age mammals and heroquest fiascos to round out the bunch.

Luckily, I was super-suspicious of the Heroquest one and never got into it (I was out of money for AQMF & AVP, so that saved me there), cuz if that one had been legit I would have put a good bit in on it. Ice Age Mammals - didn't hear about that one until waaay later.

W T F

Holy gak! Palladium Books have pride!?!

 warboss wrote:

Yeah, RRT, the Tom Reidy fiasco, All Quiet on the Martian Front and the AVP KS have turned me off from any more KS. Which is a shame, because I had such a good experience with Zombicide 2 & 3.

KS's attitude (both of them) have just shown me it's too much of risk to bother with; I'll just show a little patience and wait for retail anymore.

That's quite a tabletop list you've got there. Off the top of my head, you're just missing the ice age mammals and heroquest fiascos to round out the bunch.

Reidy is Defiance Games? So he backed the Defiance KS, or Torn Armor? Or both? Also, he could have backed Imbrian Arts (Jody Siegel) for yet another KS that keeps on failing to deliver.

I almost want to know what he backs so I can run away screaming.

Just so we're all on the same page, that's not actually PB. It's a fake account missing a space between Books and Inc.

Which I'm sure we're all aware of, savvy internet consumers that we are.

Probably. But we can't be sure as PB can't proofread for gak.

 Forar wrote:
Just so we're all on the same page, that's not actually PB. It's a fake account missing a space between Books and Inc.

Which I'm sure we're all aware of, savvy internet consumers that we are.

Goddamnit I did not.notice. I almost believe it really was somewho from PB reading and answering a comment, so the world was gonna start to break appart xD