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I find myself somewhat confusingly aroused by those Cyclones.

I may have to join that Facebook group. Gotta get those Shapeways links..

Merijeek wrote:
I find myself somewhat confusingly aroused by those Cyclones.

I agree those Cyclones are sexy... if they had a decent game and available at local game stores it would be almost like printing money..

To bad Kevin doesn't like money..

Always wanted to get them and have a game of hold out against zendradi.. see how long I could last...

Oh, Kevin loves money. He just doesn't like doing any work for it.

In regards to the Squad/Squadron naming, I was flipping through Robotech Art 1 last night and it consistently referred to to Vermillion Squad.

Jefffar wrote:
In regards to the Squad/Squadron naming, I was flipping through Robotech Art 1 last night and it consistently referred to to Vermillion Squad.

Who's the publisher of that? PB or HG?

And regarding the naming, it points out the problem with the existing format regardless. Because there's no way that the Vermillion Squad wouldn't be a Squadron (large card), and not a Squad (small card).

By the name, I'm guessing it's this one?

Morgan Vening wrote:

Jefffar wrote:
In regards to the Squad/Squadron naming, I was flipping through Robotech Art 1 last night and it consistently referred to to Vermillion Squad.

Who's the publisher of that? PB or HG?

And regarding the naming, it points out the problem with the existing format regardless. Because there's no way that the Vermillion Squad wouldn't be a Squadron (large card), and not a Squad (small card).

OK the book is publisher is the Donning Company/Publishers Norfolk Virginia copyright 1986 by Kay Reynolds and Ardith Carlton that what in Robotech Art1 Starblaze editions. Harmony Gold USA Story editor Carl Macek and Executive Producer Ahmed Agrama I hope this helps. oh by the way page 26 have the pic Rick ,Max and Ben fighters state Vermilion Squad.

That's cool. Macek being involved gives it a legitimacy that I wouldn't hold it to if it had been a purely PB sourced book.

And Squad is definitely the more appropriate term (over Squadron), if it's only a 3 man unit. Which as I said in the previous post, doesn't fit with the naming convention that they've chosen to use.

Not that it matters now.

At what point does Kickstarter think this:

https://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/kickstarter%20basics#Acco
What should creators do if they're having problems completing their project?
If the problems are severe enough that the creator can't fulfill their project, creators need to find a resolution. Steps should include offering refunds, detailing exactly how funds were used, and other actions to satisfy backers.

For more information, see Section 4 of our Terms of Use.

https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use

For projects that launched before October 19, 2014, please see our previous Terms of Use.

https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012

should happen?

Does Kickstarter leave this solely up to the 'creator'?

Allow me to draw you a basic flow chart:

(Did the creator admit to having failed?)----Y----> Bad Creator, refund!
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N
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(We love our ten percent!)

I laughed so hard, I cried, Merijeek.

More like:

Is Creator Judgement Proof?
N -- Refund!
Y -- Drag it out!

It is kind of funny that Palladium hired Scott to work the RTT project because the work load was to great, but not shown any
progress in the project in years, so proof nothing is being worked on....And now with the extra employee there still no
improvement almost a year later...

Sign me up.. I want a job were I can do nothing and still call it work..

How long has Scott been 'on the job' now?

 Alpharius wrote:
How long has Scott been 'on the job' now?

His first update was on June 21st, but that includes the passage "Kevin brought me on board at the end of May."

So just over five months, four and a half publicly.

With jack drek to show for it. Remember how in the first ipdate he said end of year was possible? How quaint.

5 months with really nothing to show for it, on a project that he was brought on specifically for?

Ouch.

Not a good show at all.

Well, look on the bright side: one more "mouth to feed" hopefully closing their doors sooner?

It's times like these that really make me wonder what the hell passes for work at PB - especially that involve Kevin working overtime.

Sometimes, I'd like to be a fly on the wall to see what they're actually doing, but I'm afraid it turn out like Starlord said, "If we had a blacklight, it would look like a Jackson Pollock painting in here." (Decorated to Rifters, of course)

 Alpharius wrote:
5 months with really nothing to show for it, on a project that he was brought on specifically for?

Ouch.

Not a good show at all.

You kidding? Five more months of faking it to keep any repercussions of $1.4M in fraud from hitting them.

If that's not value for money, I don't know what is.

I wrote this two years ago, back on page 64:

This is how I imagine the typical PB workday goes.

After stumbling into work they do a few order fulfillments and fill out paperwork. Mid- to late-morning Kevin invites everyone to watch a movie in the warehouse or some really funny youtube videos he has been bookmarking all morning.
After the videos, extended lunch.
After lunch, they sit around the conference room gaming.
Post-gaming includes cleaning up and perhaps some late afternoon order fulfillment.
If the gaming session or the movie was inspiring to Kevin, then he gets a brainstorm that means actual worktime. Wayne calls his family to say it wll be a late night.

Merijeek wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
5 months with really nothing to show for it, on a project that he was brought on specifically for?

Ouch.

Not a good show at all.

You kidding? Five more months of faking it to keep any repercussions of $1.4M in fraud from hitting them.

If that's not value for money, I don't know what is.

Touché!

Though to be fair, PB was getting that same result for 'free' pre-Scott.

This, of course, is assuming that Scott is in fact actually getting paid anything, or getting paid in actual money.

He is getting paid in Robotech: Boxed Sets. D'oh!

 Easy E wrote:
He is getting paid in Robotech: Boxed Sets. D'oh!

At MSRP value, too.

He should have asked for Robotech Bucks!

 Stormonu wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
He is getting paid in Robotech: Boxed Sets. D'oh!

At MSRP value, too.

He should have asked for Robotech Bucks!

Not only MSRP, but Kevin makes him pay shipping, out of pocket.

At a highly inflated rate.

I've backed over 150 projects in 7 years, and only 1 looks like it won't deliver and I was only in it for short money.

One (Myth Journeyman) looks bad, but delivered about half of what was promised - more or less.

So while researching what - if anything - Kickstarter would do about it...

Kickstarter wrote:

When a project is successfully funded, the creator must complete the project and fulfill each reward. Once a creator has done so, they’ve satisfied their obligation to their backers.

Throughout the process, creators owe their backers a high standard of effort, honest communication, and a dedication to bringing the project to life. At the same time, backers must understand that when they back a project, they’re helping to create something new — not ordering something that already exists. There may be changes or delays, and there’s a chance something could happen that prevents the creator from being able to finish the project as promised.

If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers. A creator in this position has only remedied the situation and met their obligations to backers if:

they post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned;
they work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a timeframe that’s communicated to backers;
they’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised;
they’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers; and
they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form.
The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers.

The problem being, of course, is that Kickstarter will do NOTHING to actually enforce this part of their terms, and has, I'm sure, set it up that only backers themselves will be the ons bringing legal action - if any gets brought at all.

Because I don't think PB can do any ofthese things:

they post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned;
they work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a timeframe that’s communicated to backers;
they’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised;
they’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers; and
they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form.

I remember backing the original MYTH fantasy Kickstarter - the game was a turd, but at least they delivered and I was able to break even.

While waiting for it, I played their Recon game demos at Gen Con. And holy hell that was terrible.

Do they actually produce anything good?

 Alpharius wrote:
I've backed over 150 projects in 7 years, and only 1 looks like it won't deliver and I was only in it for short money.

Are you the brother of guy who had the epiphany on Reddit?

While I've had KS deliver some very late, others only partially, at least I was able to get a refund from Soda Pop Miniatures. Robotech is the one KS that irritates me due to the outright dishonesty involved.

So you expect Unca Kev® to get something done? There's just not enough time! Let's examine.

There are 365 days a year.

There are 52 weeks per year and 2 weekend days per week which are time off. That leaves only 261 days available for work.

Unca Kev® needs to sleep and eat dinner and otherwise not live in the office, so that's 16 hours every day he can't be at work. That's 170 days! Only 91 work days are left available!

Unca Kev® needs his coffee and socialization time. That's 30 minutes a day, and that adds up to 23 days a year, leaving only 68 working days available.

You aren't going to begrudge him his lunch, are you? Heck, he needs an hour a day to eat and digest lunch and tell people that HE IS PALLADIUM BOOKS¢. That's 46 less days available for work. We're down to 22 days available.

Unca Kev® is such a hard worker, but he sometimes gets sick or run over by a car. He's MEGA®tough and usually comes in when he's mortally ill, but there are some days he just can't make it. He's such a hard worker he only spends about 2 sick days off a year. That leaves him only 20 days available to work.

Then there are the holidays. He needs to put up those Halloween™ decorations, and take them down. That's at least 5 days off a year. That leaves us at only 15 working days left.

Unca Kev® never takes a vacation, because he's such a hard worker. But, what you didn't consider is CHINESE NEW YEAR©! That takes a minimum of 14 days per year. That only leaves 1 day a year that Unca Kev can work.

That's only ONE DAY A YEAR to get everything done. It's just not enough time. If only there were somewhere to find the time, but there simply isn't. All of you are being unreasonable.

This examination of work time available is written and created by me with no help or inspiration from any other source. © ® ™ € ¥ and § Gabriel 2017

You forgot, next year is a leap year, he'll be able to double his productivity.