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There is also sometimes to suggest that they are sometimes Exarchs as well. As they are known to return to their shrines. As detailed in the codex quite often. As they 'ascend' to the duty of leadership. There is no shrine to the Autarchs they are just a leadership position that is ascended to.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Since the Autarch has no Force Presence (having no midichlorians and thus being the star wars equivalent to a psychic blank), its highly likely that the Jedi's battle precognition won't work, meaning that all the Jedi's force power combat trickery won't help him defend himself or get past the Autarch's defences either.

Counter-point. Battle precognition works when dealing with droids (see opening of Episode 1 for reference). Droids cannot have midichlorians, and as such would have no Force presence. Supposedly battle precog is kind of like Spidermans spidey-sense, only instead of "tingling" it says "put blade here."

 Asherian Command wrote:
They are phoenix Lords.

Literal Demigods who are just reborn after they die.

That's not quantifying anything, it's just more useless fluff. Give some specific numbers on speed, reaction time, etc.

The Eldar Phoenix Lords are the greatest warriors of their shrines, Dire Avenger, Banshees, and Scorpions. These are the greatest powers of the Eldar race. That are still living.

So what? Being the best Eldar doesn't mean they're better than jedi, just like it doesn't mean they're better than Culture combat drones.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:


There is also sometimes to suggest that they are sometimes Exarchs as well. As they are known to return to their shrines. As detailed in the codex quite often. As they 'ascend' to the duty of leadership. There is no shrine to the Autarchs they are just a leadership position that is ascended to.

They can't be exarchs. Exarchs are't capable of taking command roles because they're lost in their aspect.

This means that Autarchs do not permanently retain their rank; when the time for was has passed, they return to their traditional rank of Exarch, and their traditional place as leaders of their Aspect shrines. Autarchs only ever assume power when they believe their path calls them towards war. It is only through sheer exertion of their will that they assume the Autarchy and gather warriors about them to follow this path. Among most Eldar, the Autarchy is considered a horrifying and dangerous concept as any of their kind can be entirely consumed by it. Thus, at best, an Autarch is guided by the Seers and at worst, they are guided only by the Path of War.[3a]

Autarchs are selected from the exarchs. Exarchs become Autarchs and leave behind their path and combine it for the path of leadership.


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 Peregrine wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:
They are phoenix Lords.

Literal Demigods who are just reborn after they die.

That's not quantifying anything, it's just more useless fluff. Give some specific numbers on speed, reaction time, etc.

The Eldar Phoenix Lords are the greatest warriors of their shrines, Dire Avenger, Banshees, and Scorpions. These are the greatest powers of the Eldar race. That are still living.

So what? Being the best Eldar doesn't mean they're better than jedi, just like it doesn't mean they're better than Culture combat drones.

Culture is not involved, get out of this thread with this logical loop you are making.

If you want numbers they are shown

WS and BS of 7
Strength and Toughness of 4
3 Wounds
Initiative of 7
4 Attacks base
10 Leadership
Phoenix Armor: 2+ armor save

Meaning they are quite damn powerful with Game mechanics but in terms of lore....

Being the greatest among their kind means one thing they are greater than space marines, they can kill demons fairly easily. And out of all the phoeinx lords.

Now you are just acting like a fanboy though saying that a literal demigod would struggle against a being with a bathrobe a light saber.

Wow. That is terribly under thought fluff.

 Happyjew wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Since the Autarch has no Force Presence (having no midichlorians and thus being the star wars equivalent to a psychic blank), its highly likely that the Jedi's battle precognition won't work, meaning that all the Jedi's force power combat trickery won't help him defend himself or get past the Autarch's defences either.

Counter-point. Battle precognition works when dealing with droids (see opening of Episode 1 for reference). Droids cannot have midichlorians, and as such would have no Force presence. Supposedly battle precog is kind of like Spidermans spidey-sense, only instead of "tingling" it says "put blade here."

Counter point. Eldar are known precogs as well. As everyone in their race can predict the future and they are all pyskers.

There is a reason why eldar are feared.


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Bharring wrote:
Wow. That is terribly under thought fluff.

What you want me to pull out another source?

I don't need to defend a phoenix lore out again.

Read the damn lore I posted already if you don't then your just being lazy and not reading the post and the information I have.

And Eldar are perhaps the weakest head-to-head enemy of all the major factions in 40k.

Bharring wrote:
And Eldar are perhaps the weakest head-to-head enemy of all the major factions in 40k.

The Eldar's speed is what gets most people. They move pretty damn quickly. That is what initiative means after all in terms of ingame.

Interms of the lore they move so quickly that astartes have trouble handling them. Hence why howling banshees kill space marines so quickly its because they are moving quickly and slicing through power armor like jelly.

I'm not doubting that that is the fluff in some places, but it contradicts a bunch of other fluff.

I think this is one more candidate for head canon. Autarchs may have walked multiple paths - may even be walking one when called to battle - but they certainly weren't lost on more than one path! Canon makes some dumb claims some times. Another fork for my personal head canon.

 Asherian Command wrote:
Culture is not involved, get out of this thread with this logical loop you are making.

You're completely missing the point. The Culture combat drone is just a clear example of something that will defeat any Eldar in a 1v1 fight. It indisputably proves my point that saying "X is better than some other thing in its own setting" doesn't mean "X is better than something in a different setting", because the greatest Eldar ever still loses to the drone. So it's quite possible that the greatest Eldar ever still loses to a jedi, because you haven't yet provided any direct comparison between the two.

If you want numbers they are shown

I said numbers, not game mechanics. For example, what is their reaction time in seconds?

Being the greatest among their kind means one thing they are greater than space marines, they can kill demons fairly easily. And out of all the phoeinx lords.

What's your point? As I said, being the best in 40k doesn't necessarily mean that they're better than things from other universes.

Now you are just acting like a fanboy though saying that a literal demigod would struggle against a being with a bathrobe a light saber.

Irony, thy name is Asherian Command. Your arguments here are textbook fanboyism, you talk a lot about how {thing from 40k} is really awesome but that's about it. You never quantify anything or prove that it wins, you just assume it by default because you want 40k to win.

Bharring wrote:
I'm not doubting that that is the fluff in some places, but it contradicts a bunch of other fluff.

I think this is one more candidate for head canon. Autarchs may have walked multiple paths - may even be walking one when called to battle - but they certainly weren't lost on more than one path! Canon makes some dumb claims some times. Another fork for my personal head canon.

Well they walked down several paths before hand, doesn't mean they got lost in all of them, they got lost on one and then later ascended to the rank of Autarch. That is probably what is happening. They don't say they got lost on all the paths as an eldar can only ever get lost on one path.

Also can you guys stop saying headcanon there is canon, so stop using that argument. You are not peregrine.

You're completely missing the point. The Culture combat drone is just a clear example of something that will defeat any Eldar in a 1v1 fight. It indisputably proves my point that saying "X is better than some other thing in its own setting" doesn't mean "X is better than something in a different setting", because the greatest Eldar ever still loses to the drone. So it's quite possible that the greatest Eldar ever still loses to a jedi, because you haven't yet provided any direct comparison between the two.

You know I can't take you seriously at this point right? Your opinion is just as convulted as ever and only trying to make someones argument pointless to try to make yourself feel better. Get out of this thread and learn how to debate. Stop insulting people and saying "OH THIS IS MY HEADCANON THOUGH! SO IN MY UNIVERSE THE CULTURE EXIST!" That doesn't help the debate nor does it aide in anything. You are just trying to show yourself off as some intellectual with no backing, no lore, no fluff, nothing. You bring no evidence to the table PERIOD. Why the helk would I listen to your opinion if you have not offered anything to this discussion?

I said numbers, not game mechanics. For example, what is their reaction time in seconds?

You do it yourself I don't have to pull out numbers when that doesn't suit the argument. nor does the starwars universe have that! You know how I know! because I checked!

Irony, thy name is Asherian Command. Your arguments here are textbook fanboyism, you talk a lot about how {thing from 40k} is really awesome but that's about it. You never quantify anything or prove that it wins, you just assume it by default because you want 40k to win.

What Asherian is one of my characters from a short story I wrote set in a medevil world. Its part of a Statement "Asherian commands thee."

AS in the world that the character asherian is from is a sorta of matyr in the world that character is in.

Seen more as a god than a man.

Also that is incredibly insulting and there is no point in arguing with you if you degrade me so because of your high opinion of yourself constituting as the only correct opinion on the planet.

 Asherian Command wrote:
You know I can't take you seriously at this point right? Your opinion is just as convulted as ever and only trying to make someones argument pointless to try to make yourself feel better. Get out of this thread and learn how to debate.

Alternatively, you spend a few moments to try to understand what I'm saying instead of reflexively thinking "OMG HE SAID THE C WORD". Here is what you're saying:

X > Y therefore X > Z

What you actually need to have a valid argument:

X > Y and Y > Z therefore X > Z

You've completely skipped the "Y > Z" part and just assumed that if one Eldar is better than other Eldar they must be better than jedi. And that's a completely broken argument. The example of the Culture drone just demonstrates why it is broken.

You do it yourself I don't have to pull out numbers when that doesn't suit the argument.

IOW, all you have is "EDAR ARE REALLY AWESOME!!!!!!!!!" fanboyism, not quantifiable evidence that they beat jedi.

What Asherian is one of my characters from a short story I wrote set in a medevil world. Its part of a Statement "Asherian commands thee."

AS in the world that the character asherian is from is a sorta of matyr in the world that character is in.

Seen more as a god than a man.

...

I think I speak for everyone when I say "huh?". What are you trying to say here?

Also that is incredibly insulting and there is no point in arguing with you if you degrade me so because of your high opinion of yourself constituting as the only correct opinion on the planet.

I don't have the only correct opinion on the planet, I just don't think that your opinion is valid. Pointing out how terrible your arguments are doesn't mean that I think everyone else is wrong too.

So let me get this straight. You claim Jedi can't precog movement of the Eldar because they don't have midichlorians but Jedi can be corrupted/ affected by the warp even though they don't "have a warp presence" as the warp does not exist in SW.



Are you some kind of fanboy? Either it works for both or it works for neither.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
They are trained to master their own emotions, however, so they'd probably be OK.

No. All Jedi still feel emotions such as triumph, love, hate, pride, etc. Simply having slight twitch of pride or glee at taking down Lucius leads to you decorating his armor.

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
So let me get this straight. You claim Jedi can't precog movement of the Eldar because they don't have midichlorians but Jedi can be corrupted/ affected by the warp even though they don't "have a warp presence" as the warp does not exist in SW.



Are you some kind of fanboy? Either it works for both or it works for neither.

Warp prescene happens to all souls. If you lack a soul you are a pariah or a black pariah. But Jedi are not this, they are just jedi, they have souls. They have a presence in the warp no matter where they are, what universe you are in if 40k invades your universe.

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
Aherian, a trained knight would only have issues with corruption of the warp if they were already being corrupted by the dark side. Its the same people who would eventually leave and become Sith. EDIT or grey Jedi

Also many sith( such as Vader) would not accept chaos as he does not want to simply replace his master with another but to be his own master and rule the galaxy.

You can't resist Chaos by simply being strong willed unless you're unique in nature (like a Primarch who is warp spawn to begin with). Otherwise you need very specific training or warding such as the training of Sanctioned Psykers or warding on Grey Knight Aegis Armor. Especially when Jedi have zero experience with such warp abominations that can possess your body after simply thinking angry thoughts. Especially in the long term when Chaos can corrupt them by manipulating emotions such as love.


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 Bobthehero wrote:
The long gun used by clones can hit targets at 10 km away. See my comments about the 35 miles thing.

Still, it means that range is a non issue for e'm.

And wherever you saw that bolter had longer range than lasguns?

Yet Clones never used their weapons in such a manner. It doesn't matter if something is hypothetically capable of something- the US is hypothetically capable of nuking the entire middle east, but just like Clones suddenly growing a brain and realized they have a ten kilometer sniper rifle, it's irrelevant unless they demonstrate a willingness to use it. Sith are likewise hypothetically capable of rupturing all your organs (as are Jedi), yet almost never use such powers when it would have very well saved their lives.

 Asherian Command wrote:
But Jedi are not this, they are just jedi, they have souls

{citation needed}

Please provide evidence that jedi have "souls" as defined by 40k. And when you do, remember that not all living beings (or even humans) in 40k have souls, so "they're humans of course they have souls" is not an acceptable answer.

LordBlades wrote:
I think Star Wars blasters are a lot more powerful than people.give them credit.

Acvording to wookiepedia (with the primary sources being some very old books), it's almost impossible to penetrate stormtrooper armor with slugthrowers (Star Wars projectile weapons), while it offers way less protection against blaster bolts.

This means that, in Star Wars, blasters are likely significantly more powerful than projectile weapons. Depending on how Star Wars projectile weapons compare to 40k projectile weapons, this might mean blasters are also significantly more powerful than lasguns (since lasguns are roughly equivalent in power to autoguns).

FFS, stop taking things on the wiki for fact. As a bit of a warsie, it's quite often full of gak. Plasotid armor, the carapace gear worn by Clones and Stormtroopers, has been penetrated by spears on two occasions (TCW episode on an ice world where xenos riddled clones with spears and Endor in ROTJ) and completely shredded by a spike pit styled like Indiana Jones. Now unless the Talz, Ewoks, and stone pit were generating more energy with the spears (or the stormtroopers falling into the pit) generated more energy than a supersonic bullet, it's more likely the bullets that failed to penn their armor were complete garbage rounds.

Additionally, there are slugthrowers capable of sundering Plastoid armor and are famous for it in the first place.

 Wyzilla wrote:
You can't resist Chaos by simply being strong willed unless you're unique in nature (like a Primarch who is warp spawn to begin with). Otherwise you need very specific training or warding such as the training of Sanctioned Psykers or warding on Grey Knight Aegis Armor.

So why doesn't chaos corrupt everything? Why is anyone in the Imperium still loyal and uncorrupted? People who get that specific training are incredibly rare, so chaos should be able to corrupt the vast majority of the Imperium and then slaughter the few who can't be corrupted with overwhelming military power.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:
But Jedi are not this, they are just jedi, they have souls

{citation needed}

Please provide evidence that jedi have "souls" as defined by 40k. And when you do, remember that not all living beings (or even humans) in 40k have souls, so "they're humans of course they have souls" is not an acceptable answer.

Everything has a soul by default. The only way you don't is if you're a genetically engineered blank by the Necrons. Otherwise all other organic life possesses it, even (possibly) some machines.

 Wyzilla wrote:
FFS, stop taking things on the wiki for fact. As a bit of a warsie, it's quite often full of gak. Plasotid armor, the carapace gear worn by Clones and Stormtroopers, has been penetrated by spears on two occasions (TCW episode on an ice world where xenos riddled clones with spears and Endor in ROTJ) and completely shredded by a spike pit styled like Indiana Jones. Now unless the Talz, Ewoks, and stone pit were generating more energy with the spears (or the stormtroopers falling into the pit) generated more energy than a supersonic bullet, it's more likely the bullets that failed to penn their armor were complete garbage rounds.

Actually this isn't a very good argument because in the real world body armor designed to stop bullets isn't very good at stopping knives. So it's quite possible to have armor that is able to stop a bullet but can be penetrated by a spear.

Additionally, there are slugthrowers capable of sundering Plastoid armor and are famous for it in the first place.

And that fame is a pretty good argument that bullets in general are very poor at penetrating stormtrooper armor and these guns are a special exception. Otherwise being able to penetrate stormtrooper armor wouldn't be something to brag about.


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 Wyzilla wrote:
Everything has a soul by default. The only way you don't is if you're a genetically engineered blank by the Necrons. Otherwise all other organic life possesses it, even (possibly) some machines.

In 40k everything has a soul. This is not necessarily true outside of 40k, especially since even in 40k there are living things without souls. If you can genetically engineer a blank then the obvious conclusion is that having a soul is also genetic, and someone from Star Wars probably isn't going to have the same genes as someone from 40k.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:
You can't resist Chaos by simply being strong willed unless you're unique in nature (like a Primarch who is warp spawn to begin with). Otherwise you need very specific training or warding such as the training of Sanctioned Psykers or warding on Grey Knight Aegis Armor.

So why doesn't chaos corrupt everything? Why is anyone in the Imperium still loyal and uncorrupted? People who get that specific training are incredibly rare, so chaos should be able to corrupt the vast majority of the Imperium and then slaughter the few who can't be corrupted with overwhelming military power.

They don't want to. You have to remember that the number one thing Chaos does not want to do is win- it wants entertainment. Remember the entire Horus Heresy was a perfectly executed plot by Chaos to plunge the galaxy into a war lasting ten millennia (which may stretch on for far longer if Curze's prophecies are correct). Chaos overplaying its hand and crushing the Imperium would fly right in the face of the all events in the past and end the game the gods have been playing. Chaos can only exist if there is Order to oppose.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
Aherian, a trained knight would only have issues with corruption of the warp if they were already being corrupted by the dark side. Its the same people who would eventually leave and become Sith. EDIT or grey Jedi

Also many sith( such as Vader) would not accept chaos as he does not want to simply replace his master with another but to be his own master and rule the galaxy.

You can't resist Chaos by simply being strong willed unless you're unique in nature (like a Primarch who is warp spawn to begin with). Otherwise you need very specific training or warding such as the training of Sanctioned Psykers or warding on Grey Knight Aegis Armor. Especially when Jedi have zero experience with such warp abominations that can possess your body after simply thinking angry thoughts. Especially in the long term when Chaos can corrupt them by manipulating emotions such as love.

yeah so the training they received to resist dark forces won't work because it wasn't the specific dark force were talking about. Sure


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 Bobthehero wrote:
The long gun used by clones can hit targets at 10 km away. See my comments about the 35 miles thing.

Still, it means that range is a non issue for e'm.

And wherever you saw that bolter had longer range than lasguns?

Yet Clones never used their weapons in such a manner. It doesn't matter if something is hypothetically capable of something- the US is hypothetically capable of nuking the entire middle east, but just like Clones suddenly growing a brain and realized they have a ten kilometer sniper rifle, it's irrelevant unless they demonstrate a willingness to use it. Sith are likewise hypothetically capable of rupturing all your organs (as are Jedi), yet almost never use such powers when it would have very well saved their lives.

So lets see: In the SW universe the force is what bonds all life and the universe together. Everything living, dead, past, present, and future.
Now in the 40k universe all beings have souls and as such are affected by the warp.

You claim that because "midichlorians do not exist in 40k" that the force and precog do not work against them. YET even though there is NO mention of the warp, or souls in SW that they are still affected by the warp anyways.

Bulls*t

Also would like to point out that though midichlorians are found in large quantities in force users that this doesn't necessarily mean that they " make" you force sensitive. In fact midichlorians very well could be a by-product created by force sensitive individuals body systems reaction to the force flowing through them.

Autarchs are warriors that have travelled almost every path of the warrior. BUT they "mastered it" without losing themselves to it. Autarchs are NOT selected from exarchs, (see path of the warrior)

Phoenix lords die alot, kharandras lost to a space marine dreadnaught. His rebirth was only done by absorbing the souls/life force of the striking scorpions exarch(S).



I know plenty of eldar fluff, one of my top 3 fav. Factions in 40k.

However, just as imperial propaganda uplifts people, myths and legend about the Phoenix lords do the same.

(Hell even star wars has licensed books with a sith lord literally sucking the life out of an entire planet, turning -everything- with life force into dust, to become immortal), and the Jedi masters have the ability to live on after death with at least interaction on a communication level.(episode 6)



As for.points made about love-

No, Jedi do not love, only the grey Jedi love, the Jedi order prohibits marriage or love. Their teachings SAY it can lead down dark paths. So no, sorry chaos.

Chaos is about feeding the person, it takes their desires and leads them breadcrumb down the path of no return, Jedi are, oddly enough, much like buddist monks. They won't take the bait 99/100 times. (Not saying none would fall, just very few... And I'd wager no true Jedi Master would fall)

Given I though pheonix lords based on melee were WS8... I'll lower the Jedi Master to 7, Jedi knight 6.

The idea that the resistance is different between Dark Side and the Gods of Chaos isn't that the name is different. Its that they behave very, very differently.

If you brace yourself against a force coming straight at you, hand hold it back for a lifetime, you're not prepared for a force to push you sideways.

Likewise, Jedi are practiced in resisting primal calls towards the dark side. But there is no intelligence or plan behind them. They are just a primal force. Perhaps Khorne might have trouble swaying Jedi, but the other three are nothing like what Jedi have resisted.

So lets see: In the SW universe the force is what bonds all life and the universe together. Everything living, dead, past, present, and future.
Now in the 40k universe all beings have souls and as such are affected by the warp.

You claim that because "midichlorians do not exist in 40k" that the force and precog do not work against them. YET even though there is NO mention of the warp, or souls in SW that they are still affected by the warp anyways.

Bulls*t

Also would like to point out that though midichlorians are found in large quantities in force users that this doesn't necessarily mean that they " make" you force sensitive. In fact midichlorians very well could be a by-product created by force sensitive individuals body systems reaction to the force flowing through them.

Midichlorians don't exist in 40k because there is no force, There is only the warp and pyskers. Every being that has a soul can be effected by the warp that is what binds 40k. Those that don't are usually outcasts and cause disturbances that even those who are not pyskers can feel.

Midichlorians are also within the blood stream according to the phantom menace.

They don't work because these individuals have a different basis. If it was all described as magic that would be a different matter but each universe has its own rules and things that bind the universe.

I'm not saying most will fall - probably between 5% and 30% in the first decade. Fairly evenly split between all ranks except Master, which would be lower.

7 for a Master I could see. 6 or below for others, I would think.

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:




So lets see: In the SW universe the force is what bonds all life and the universe together. Everything living, dead, past, present, and future.
Now in the 40k universe all beings have souls and as such are affected by the warp.

You claim that because "midichlorians do not exist in 40k" that the force and precog do not work against them. YET even though there is NO mention of the warp, or souls in SW that they are still affected by the warp anyways.

You might want to check your contacts, as I never stated such. The training Jedi receive does not prepare them remotely for facing entities such as Daemons, which are hellspawn from a completely different universe lacking any physical laws as we understand them. You need very specific training to protect against poessession against wards. As there are no Daemons in Star Wars (or at least of the likes, there are some funky Force monters like Abeloth), Jedi or Sith have not received the proper training to protect against such possession or corruption and thus are incredibly vulnerable. If they received the same training as an Inquisitor they'd be alright when exposed to the Warp.... but they haven't.

Don't understand what the hell you're rambling on about.

Also would like to point out that though midichlorians are found in large quantities in force users that this doesn't necessarily mean that they " make" you force sensitive. In fact midichlorians very well could be a by-product created by force sensitive individuals body systems reaction to the force flowing through them.

No gak Sherlock.


Also on the subject of Phoenix Lords, they are immortal. They're gestalt consciousness stored inside their armor. The host that wears the armor can be killed, but the armor and the entity it contains cannot. You can of course lose said armor, but even then it sometimes will teleport out and reappear somewhere else. Either way death is just a temporary inconvenience for a Phoenix Lord.

Being in two different, possibly parallel universes, it's quite likely the warp works differently in the SW universe than it is in the 40K universe, or even that the warp simply does not exist in the SW universe, and the force is just something functionally the same but require different talents to access. Just because two things functions similarly, doesn't mean it's the same. An hypothetical universe consisting of a majority of anti-matters would have a far more different set of physical laws than ours. Yet, despite this, due to the observable properties of antimatter are nearly exactly the same as its matter counterpart, with the exception of a few (like their charges, and yes, annihilation), it's highly likely an anti-verse would be very similar to our own. Yet should our universe and an anti-verse clash, all would be annihilated, due to the fundamental differences governing the two.

The fact that Jedis and Seths, if indeed are psykers, never became chaos portals by using their power, should show just enough of the fact that they are fundamentally different. Not to mention, even if the warp can be swapped for the force, since the "Warp Space" in 40K is not filled with Demons (in fact, they have an utterly peaceful afterlife), the Force users would easily succumb to demonic incursion should they cross into the 40K universe.

As for the Stormtrooper range... well, I still have problems with their laser weapons shooting short, sub-light speed light bolts.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:




So lets see: In the SW universe the force is what bonds all life and the universe together. Everything living, dead, past, present, and future.
Now in the 40k universe all beings have souls and as such are affected by the warp.

You claim that because "midichlorians do not exist in 40k" that the force and precog do not work against them. YET even though there is NO mention of the warp, or souls in SW that they are still affected by the warp anyways.

You might want to check your contacts, as I never stated such. The training Jedi receive does not prepare them remotely for facing entities such as Daemons, which are hellspawn from a completely different universe lacking any physical laws as we understand them. You need very specific training to protect against poessession against wards. As there are no Daemons in Star Wars (or at least of the likes, there are some funky Force monters like Abeloth), Jedi or Sith have not received the proper training to protect against such possession or corruption and thus are incredibly vulnerable. If they received the same training as an Inquisitor they'd be alright when exposed to the Warp.... but they haven't.

Don't understand what the hell you're rambling on about.

Also would like to point out that though midichlorians are found in large quantities in force users that this doesn't necessarily mean that they " make" you force sensitive. In fact midichlorians very well could be a by-product created by force sensitive individuals body systems reaction to the force flowing through them.

No gak Sherlock.

In 40k it is also suggested that even beings that have no soul still can be possessed (AKA the Black Pariah being the only noted example.) The problem is not whether they can resist the warp or not is that if they are able to handle it and the demons that come from the warp.

Demons, Eldar, Orks, Tyranids, The Imperium, and Necrons vs the Star Wars with its extended universe, in the end after defeating one threat the other threat will devour the last threat and add to their army. The Orks would be an eternal fued with the star wars universe they wouldn't kill everyone they would just want to fight "W'ere da fighting is getun gud!"