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I think part of the wierdness on the contemptor is both legs being square-on. The resin kit having hip joints allows for the feet to be splayed outwards slightly, which gives it a more natural stance.

 insaniak wrote:
I think part of the wierdness on the contemptor is both legs being square-on. The resin kit having hip joints allows for the feet to be splayed outwards slightly, which gives it a more natural stance.

Yeah, I agree. I will reserve judgment until the final model, though, and then see if it can be modded easily to feel less... wooden.

 Ashiraya wrote:
What Limey said. The Marines look fine.

The usual monopose characters make me sad though.

You know that neat SM commander box that has a ton of nice options and is compatible with most SM bits and is cheaper than the clamshell plastic characters?

Why don't they make those anymore? :(


Edit: I just noticed on that sprue that the plastic contemptor has multiple weapon options. I think it has a Volkite weapon, a Kheres pattern assault cannon and a TL-Lascannon (Yay?) on it.

I may have missed it, but is this going to be some sort of board game? I notice the hex style board the models are displayed on.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I may have missed it, but is this going to be some sort of board game? I notice the hex style board the models are displayed on.

Yarp. Custom cards and dice too. But I think the number of people getting it for the board game could be counted on one hand.

So do we have any details on the loadouts you can take for the tacticals, if the Cataphractii Terminators can take different weapons, and the details on the models. Because I really, really, really want to use this to build my DA army as greenwing.

Amazing! So close!!

 Wyzilla wrote:
So do we have any details on the loadouts you can take for the tacticals, if the Cataphractii Terminators can take different weapons, and the details on the models. Because I really, really, really want to use this to build my DA army as greenwing.

For Tacticals, the sprues have a Heavy Bolter, Missile Launcher, Melta Gun, Flamer and Plasma Gun. Plus assorted stuff for the sergeant.

Hmm... the tiles are uninspired so far, but I need better pics.

Right now this is on the 'skip' list.

 Wyzilla wrote:
So do we have any details on the loadouts you can take for the tacticals, if the Cataphractii Terminators can take different weapons, and the details on the models. Because I really, really, really want to use this to build my DA army as greenwing.

Have you looked at the tac sprues on the first page of the thread? You'll find part of your answer there...

No idea on the rest yet but alleged the terms have lots of options.

Contemptor has kheres, multi melta and fist, nothing more.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/10/horus-heresy-betrayal-at-calth-pics-exact-contents.html

Some clearer pics.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... the tiles are uninspired so far, but I need better pics.

Right now this is on the 'skip' list.

I see fish rocket launchers, i need it. The rest i don't care about

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... the tiles are uninspired so far, but I need better pics.

Right now this is on the 'skip' list.

I see fish rocket launchers, i need it. The rest i don't care about

There are three in the box, and they exist elsewhere.

 TheCustomLime wrote:

Manchu wrote:
Merely tempted? Consider yourself lucky!

Indeed. I'm getting two. 60 Tacticals, 10 Terminators, 2 Contemptors and a couple of Praetors for $300? It nearly costs that much to get 30 tacticals from FW.

Yep. 2 boxes means enough models to start a HH legion force, and have a few bits left over for my 40K chapter.
2x 20 man Tac squads, a 5 man support squad with meltas, a 5 man heavy support squad with missiles, 5 man cataphractii squad, a contemptor and set of characters. Debating between UM or IF.
Then 10 tac marines, 5 cataphractii, a contemptor, and set of characters for my 40K marines to mix in some heresy era stuff.

The Tac Marines and Cataphractii are probably full kits for later release, while the Contemptor and character sprues are likely exclusive to the starter.

 pretre wrote:
Can't wait for FLG to start allowing preorders. I'll get at least one.

I already told my FLGS to hold me 2 boxes. Hope they show up, as the Tau Tidewall he was supposed to get never arrived :(

 gorgon wrote:

Like I said, I'm hoping for a plastic Spartan.

To me, that doesn't seem like an outlandish possibility, given GW's love of bigger kits and the fact that both 30K and 40K players could use them in their armies.

Spartan, not for a while I don't think. A Mk I land raider though, that seems really iconic. Probably some of the other staples too- Assault marines, Rhino, Dome turret predator, Bullock Jetbikes (rather than the uly Scimitars from FW)

Not sure if theses have been posted yet but always worth another look

Plus some crystal clear sprue pics (including those Contemptor legs you all love so much)

Looking nicer. Though, I really don't like that Contemptor now. It's far too flat and static looking.

Edit: looking at the sprues, why didn't they balljoint the legs? They did with the flippin' arms

4 board tiles? The board must be pretty tiny!

Wait, so the Contemptor is not interchangeable with the FW line of weapons? And the legs look even worse in these sprue pics.
I like the Cataphractii, though. BUt why is one lower leg seperate? Knowing the new Assault Squad kit, they will only fit one way. So why, GW, why?

Ooh, lots on that Cataphractii sprue. Looks like enough hands for PF or CF/SB or dual LC all round, a sword for the sarge and a HF. And I'm impressed that they've given you full extra arms for the Dread, makes it very easy to swap parts with magnets or you could even save a few quid off a FW Dread! Looks easy enough to cut off the PF for another gun if that's what you'd prefer.

Yep, gonna check for that dreadnought. The rest still needs better pics :(

 Slinky wrote:
4 board tiles? The board must be pretty tiny!

Looks to be quite big tiles with very little room for customization, like in Execution Force.

Dread legs looks like they could be cut off easily.

Still no decent pics of the characters as of yet.

Well, I'm sold.

In case anyone was wondering just how much of a Legionnes Astartes force you'd get if you put everything in the box together, here's a quickie from Battlescribe (apologies if I've made any errors here, I'm not overly familiar with the LA list)

HQ:
Legion Praetor, Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Combi-Bolter and Power Weapon

Legion Centurion, Chaplain, Power Weapon and Plasma Pistol (or it might be a Volkite Serpenta, I can't tell from the pics)

Troops:
Legion Tactical Squad: 15 Marines, Power Weapon for the Sarge
Legion Tactical Squad: 15 Marines, Power Weapon for the Sarge

Elites:
Cataphractii Terminators, 4x Power Fist, 1x Heavy Flamer

Contemptor Dreadnought, Kheres Assault Cannon


Total: 1105 points

So 2 boxes, plus a kit or two from FW, and you're sorted!

 Paradigm wrote:
In case anyone was wondering just how much of a Legionnes Astartes force you'd get if you put everything in the box together, here's a quickie from Battlescribe (apologies if I've made any errors here, I'm not overly familiar with the LA list)

HQ:
Legion Praetor, Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Combi-Bolter and Power Weapon

Legion Centurion, Chaplain, Power Weapon and Plasma Pistol (or it might be a Volkite Serpenta, I can't tell from the pics)

Troops:
Legion Tactical Squad: 15 Marines, Power Weapon for the Sarge
Legion Tactical Squad: 15 Marines, Power Weapon for the Sarge

Elites:
Cataphractii Terminators, 4x Power Fist, 1x Heavy Flamer

Contemptor Dreadnought, Kheres Assault Cannon


Total: 1105 points

So 2 boxes, plus a kit or two from FW, and you're sorted!

Depends on the legion, but there looks enough for 2x 10 man tactical squad, 5 man support squad with Flamers/Meltas and, I think, plasma as well as a 5 man support squad.

And, not forgetting pride of the legion lists:

HQ:
Legion Praetor,
Legion Centurion

Troops:
Legion Veteran Squad: 10 Marines
Legion Veteran Squad: 10 Marines
Cataphractii Terminators

Elites:
Contemptor Dreadnought, Kheres Assault Cannon

That'll leave you 10 spare marines to equip with whatever - support squads, heavy support or seeker squads (looks to be combin-weapon upgrades on the sprues)...

Yeah, I kept it basic as I wasn't sure on the requirements/allowances for Vet/Support Squads. But yeah, if you can scrounge up a spare Special/Heavy or two (there's 3 of each type in the box by the look of it) you could definitely outfit a couple of 5-man units with support gear of your choice.

What's the specifics of a Pride of the Legion list? Just Vets as Troops, or are there other benefits/restrictions?

 Paradigm wrote:
What's the specifics of a Pride of the Legion list? Just Vets as Troops, or are there other benefits/restrictions?

Veterans & Terminators as Troops but you cannot take Allies and if all your Veterans & Terminators are killed your opponent gets an extra VP.

Cool. And can that be run by any Legion, or just specific ones? I'm still undecided on Legion (and on whether or not I'll be combining the box into one force or not), and possibly thinking Shattered Legions, who I guess won't be able to run that.

 Paradigm wrote:
Cool. And can that be run by any Legion, or just specific ones? I'm still undecided on Legion (and on whether or not I'll be combining the box into one force or not), and possibly thinking Shattered Legions, who I guess won't be able to run that.

Yes, it's a generic any legion one.

There's also this fella from the Forgeworld downloads. Ignore the Alpha Legion special character and take note the Delegatus consul on the right - combine this download, with the HH boxed set and the Raid strategic missions from Book IV: Conquest, the Crusade Army List red book and you don't need any more resin to get started!