The Ongoing [Warpath] News Thread

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**DaveC**

Mantic refer to restic as plastic resin they said resin so most likely real resin upgrade parts are cheaper to mold in resin (or metal)

**Red Viper**

Pretty serious pledge levels now.

I can't buy more than one battlegroup + vehicle right now, but I'm trying to talk more people into splitting those bigger pledges... just so it lowers my cost.

I hope we get to the 6th army. I think they will be popular.

I want to see more Asterian stuff too. I could easily see me proxying some for Combined Army in Infinity like a cheapskate.

**highlord tamburlaine**

Really debating whether I need an extra battlegroup or two, or five...

The vehicles count towards those battlegroups, right?

So a total warfare package could be the starter, FF tanks, and a Veermyn battlegroup? Huh. I'd be set for a while then...

**winterwolf**

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Really debating whether I need an extra battlegroup or two, or five...

The vehicles count towards those battlegroups, right?

So a total warfare package could be the starter, FF tanks, and a Veermyn battlegroup? Huh. I'd be set for a while then...

Correct.

**Thraxas Of Turai**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Looks like there really were plenty of people waiting for this. It jumped 10k since the update, which is more than like the last 3 days.

A $235 Total Warfare pledge nets you more than most would be able to paint in a year, it is good to see the total rolling again.

Plenty of tyrant pledges are shifting, so if you want a lesser spend on the KS take advantage of the early birds that are becoming available again.

**BobtheInquisitor**

NTRabbit wrote:
MLaw wrote:
did we have missile launchers for Enforcers previously?

Yeah we did, one of the restic Enforcer specialists from Deadzone 1 was a rocket or missile guy, he came in the bag with the sniper, engineer and sentry gun turrets

Also this new Asterian drone seems to the equivalent of strapping a missile onto one of your normal guys in the other armies, whereas the old drone was a big thing more akin to the Mining Laser, Jotun, Goblin Guntrak, and Veermyn Weapons Platform

So, it's more like the hovering support platform that comes with Eldar Troops rather than the heavy weapon that comes in its own box? That's how I understand it.

**decker_cky**

DaveC wrote:
Mantic refer to restic as plastic resin they said resin so most likely real resin upgrade parts are cheaper to mold in resin (or metal)

I don't think they've ever made restic upgrades either, since restic shrinks and makes it tough to fit on upgrades.

**pretre**

Why would the tyrants be limited?

**BobtheInquisitor**

winterwolf wrote:
New pledges get the vehicle prices down $20 if you back out the cost of early bird AW, so good job on that, Mantic.

Ultimate tyrant - BGs are $62 (AW @115 + 5BGs@310)

Even better deal at Total Warfare if you wanted 3 battlegroups and rules - BGs are $60 (AW@115 + 2BGs@120)

I'm sorry, but are you saying the vehicles are $20 so long as we buy a lot of other things that aren't vehicles and subtract their undiscounted value from the whole deal? Because, that's not really a solution to vehicle pricing issues.

**Bolognesus**

pretre wrote:
Why would the tyrants be limited?

Artificial scarcity. I mean, they already hint they "might" be persuaded to raise the number of available pledges later on.

**Thraxas Of Turai**

pretre wrote:
Why would the tyrants be limited?

Maybe to encourage people to get 2x Total Warfares for $45 extra?

**Tyr13**

From update 22:

And getting going on the Corporation – infantry and vehicles – which also give us vehicles for the Plague and Rebs too.

So... Rebs do seem to be an option at some point.

**Thraxas Of Turai**

Those of you with Facebook, Ronnie's online chat should be beginning anytime now. Good chance to ask some direct questions.

**highlord tamburlaine**

A decent reb faction could tip me over to one of the higher pledge levels.

**decker_cky**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
winterwolf wrote:
New pledges get the vehicle prices down $20 if you back out the cost of early bird AW, so good job on that, Mantic.

Ultimate tyrant - BGs are $62 (AW @115 + 5BGs@310)

Even better deal at Total Warfare if you wanted 3 battlegroups and rules - BGs are $60 (AW@115 + 2BGs@120)

I'm sorry, but are you saying the vehicles are $20 so long as we buy a lot of other things that aren't vehicles and subtract their undiscounted value from the whole deal? Because, that's not really a solution to vehicle pricing issues.

10 vehicles for $235 (then shipping) is pretty good @ $23.50 each if you want that many.

But his analysis at $20 each for extra vehicles is spot on *if you wanted an early bird AW pledge regardless*, which is what he stated.

**NTRabbit**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
NTRabbit wrote:
MLaw wrote:
did we have missile launchers for Enforcers previously?

Yeah we did, one of the restic Enforcer specialists from Deadzone 1 was a rocket or missile guy, he came in the bag with the sniper, engineer and sentry gun turrets

Also this new Asterian drone seems to the equivalent of strapping a missile onto one of your normal guys in the other armies, whereas the old drone was a big thing more akin to the Mining Laser, Jotun, Goblin Guntrak, and Veermyn Weapons Platform

So, it's more like the hovering support platform that comes with Eldar Troops rather than the heavy weapon that comes in its own box? That's how I understand it.

Yeah that's how I see it

**scarletsquig**

New pledge levels are really great, the total has gone up about $20k in the last few hours. Starting to get exciting again!

Glad to see that freebies are still being added to the initial battlegroups too.

**ubik2000**

If they eventually reveal some new Rebs stuff, I would probably buy in on some sort of "Deadzone Upgrade" Pledge level: new Rebs plus some of the new Plague 3rd gens. Maybe include Steel Warriors for anyone that skipped Infestation, and the new Asterians (although I skipped that faction in DZ1, myself). For Deadzone you really don't need more than a sprue (maybe two) of each.

Otherwise there's not much here that calls my name. Although I would like to see a shot of the Interceptor sitting on top of a Landing Pad battlezone.

**pretre**

A DZ upgrade pledge would be excellent.

**BobtheInquisitor**

decker_cky wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
winterwolf wrote:
New pledges get the vehicle prices down $20 if you back out the cost of early bird AW, so good job on that, Mantic.

Ultimate tyrant - BGs are $62 (AW @115 + 5BGs@310)

Even better deal at Total Warfare if you wanted 3 battlegroups and rules - BGs are $60 (AW@115 + 2BGs@120)

I'm sorry, but are you saying the vehicles are $20 so long as we buy a lot of other things that aren't vehicles and subtract their undiscounted value from the whole deal? Because, that's not really a solution to vehicle pricing issues.

10 vehicles for $235 (then shipping) is pretty good @ $23.50 each if you want that many.

But his analysis at $20 each for extra vehicles is spot on *if you wanted an early bird AW pledge regardless*, which is what he stated.

I guess I'm not enough of a wargamer, then. I can't even imagine dropping $235 on a kickstarter just to save a few bucks each on five or six vehicles beyond what I need or want, vehicles that might not even appeal to me in their final forms. I guess I must not be one of Mantic's real customers, wanting a deal on terms that won't end in marital strife.

Maybe if it were $20 per vehicle :V

**highlord tamburlaine**

I'd be down for a Deadzone focused pledge.

Give me enough variety to bump up my current forces (of which I have near enough of most to be comparable to the battle groups) and I'd be all over it.

I'm much more likely to finish painting a DZ squad than everything included in a battleforce sadly.

**lord_blackfang**

Yeah, how about a Deadzone Variety Pack Battlegroup, with maybe 10 of each new HIPS model and the metal upgrade packs.

**NTRabbit**

A Royal Sampler pledge level!

**Dark Severance**

Some stuff from the Q&A

Mantic Games: Plans for other races...been asked a few times so here's an answer....
Marauders and res are top of the list for their own entries. They can both use the dz figures and the hard plastic from here - such as the corporation vehicle and the rest can use the Corp troops to bulk out their army. Also both of those armies have really strong IPS and they are cool smile emoticon
The marauders will 100% be a merchant faction if they don't get their own army.
But I am also thinking that maybe once these first rise are out a cross over book with a few new armies would be a great way of using aliens etc in wp. I just don't want to promise took any armies and then they are not balanced or tested properly..prefer them to be spot on a d then an expansion with more - when we could support them with plastics too.
Love to see so. Of the pure aliens in the rebs army but getting g a interesting army without 10 tools is the challenge, but I am sure we can solve

When will we see firefight rules (Alpha)?
Mantic Games: Hopefully in next few days. Mark (writer) has been working on them this week

Got any more Corporation teasers?
Mantic Games: There might be a few coming. You never know perhaps the vehicle is actually sculpted!

Will we see any renders for the gcps?
Mantic Games: Yep we are really hopeful these are just around the corner

Are there any plans for bases for Warpath?
I would like the multi bases even if something added at retail like the kow ones
Mantic Games: Yes there are a group of people who want to use the bases to speed up their huge games so well see them at some post but they are not mandatory because we know some people really don't like them

**Mymearan**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Yeah, how about a Deadzone Variety Pack Battlegroup, with maybe 10 of each new HIPS model and the metal upgrade packs.

oh man... might have to jump in if they did this!!!

**Nostromodamus**

Can someone run that through Google translate and post it please?

I only speak English.

**scarletsquig**

Deadzone upgrade pledge would be great, but it might have to wait until later on when every new non-GCPS infantry unit has been funded.

**MLaw**

Seems like it was typed up on a cellphone with autowreck.

What I gather from that are a bunch of non-answers and a few very loose milestones. Within a few days = Firefight Alpha
Rebs and Marauders seem to be Dogs of War style merc units. Given how few factions there are, I'm confused at the prospect of having 2 (not just 1) floater lists.

**GrimDork**

Well, I'd rather have the floater lists for now to hold us over until we get full lists and product releases down the road. Sure, it isn't as amazing as having 12 armies fully kited out with hard plastic kits and rich backstory, but this is still a relatively new thing.

**Polonius**

Old school 40k had plenty of "half armies" that were unsupported, marginally supported, or outright abandoned.

I have no problem with low diversity armies. I'd rather see that than a bunch of filler.