The Ongoing [Warpath] News Thread

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**Black Nexus**

Also, that line down the middle is either a super obvious mold line, or a deliberate detail that was engineered to look exactly like a super obvious mold line. It runs across every bit of detail down the length of the craft.

1) It's a 3D print, which don't have mould lines.

2) On the actual mould, that top panel is a single separate flat piece that sits on top of the two halves.

It's ridged down the middle.

Since it's one piece sits flat (like a Battlezone tile), so it also can't have a mould line.

The grey line is painted on. You can see the ridge in the render above that's been used to compare the ship too.

**plastictrees**

I think it's weird that people are seeing it as a mold line.
I also think it's weird that the sculptor carried the angled panels across the whole upper portion. The ridged section at the back could have stayed flat.

**dragqueeninspace**

I think it's weird someone can see a mould line through the windshield.

**Black Nexus**

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
The Pathfinders were actually funded by the Deadzone: Infestation KS. Word seems to be a retail release of the DZ: Infestation miniatures for first quarter 2016, so not too long to wait. As for the other stuff funded by this KS they say a delivery date of September 2016, as for retail maybe some for Xmas 2016 but more than likely 2017.

As for this KS, am I ok to drop a $1 pledge and then upgrade to Total War in the pledge manager? And any firm dates on when the pledge manager will run?

Yes. PM will run approx. four weeks after the campaign finishes, closes mid-end of February.

**RiTides**

4 months, right

**Talking Banana**

Black Nexus wrote:

2) On the actual mould, that top panel is a single separate flat piece that sits on top of the two halves.

Much obliged for this clarification.

You seem to know your stuff - have you seen the actual mold? Are you a Mantic employee or pathfinder? You seem better informed than us average Nahasapeemapetilons.

**Guildsman**

Black Nexus wrote:
Also, that line down the middle is either a super obvious mold line, or a deliberate detail that was engineered to look exactly like a super obvious mold line. It runs across every bit of detail down the length of the craft.

1) It's a 3D print, which don't have mould lines.

2) On the actual mould, that top panel is a single separate flat piece that sits on top of the two halves.

It's ridged down the middle.

Since it's one piece sits flat (like a Battlezone tile), so it also can't have a mould line.

The grey line is painted on. You can see the ridge in the render above that's been used to compare the ship too.

Fine then. Why did they decide to put a ridge across every detail on the top of the ship? Regardless of what it actually is, it makes the kit look like it has a poorly-hidden seam down the middle.

**lord_blackfang**

They really need to get that BoW video on the KS page. I suddenly want a bunch of dropships and jetbikes, and I didn't before.

**JoeRugby**

I'm a bit torn on the gunship.

Loved the render, then disliked it when I saw it in this campaign now I'm liking it again after seeing it in BOW.

Hopefully th will do a bundle with just the new stuff they have unlocked in this campaign cause none of the current deals are appealing to me.

**GrimDork**

Those bikes are freaking huge. You know how long enforcers are, and that bike dwarfs it's rider. I think I have maybe 4 coming from DZ:I. I kind of want a few more because of how cool they are but I'm undecided as to if I need a whole whopping 10 more. I'd consider heracles/enforcer battle group but TBH the only thing I need out of heracles is the bikes (and characters I guess). Same for the enforcer group, I don't think I need 8 striders at this point... Its a further conundrum that heracles doesn't have the drop armor dwarfs but they're in the dwarf group.

Meep. Guess I'll figure it out before February

Total is doing pretty well. Almost got the next upgrade thing done.

**Thraxas Of Turai**

@Black Nexus, thank you for the information.

@Lord Blackfang. Agreed, I think it is a combination of the bloke flying around with the Interceptor in his hand, the better idea of scale and the close up shots.

**GrimDork**

Yeah after watching the video, the hold on the interceptor is definitely smaller than a Valkyrie but the plane itself is no small fry.

**judgedoug**

Azazelx wrote:
Take a good, close look. That does not look like "a piece that's been placed on top that's been edge highlighted int he centre." It looks absolutely like a seam line down the middle of the model. Including over and through every panel and texture, including the canopy windscreen.

Look at the panel lines, though- not possible unless it's a separate piece due to the limitations of standard two part steel molds.

**lord_blackfang**

judgedoug wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
Take a good, close look. That does not look like "a piece that's been placed on top that's been edge highlighted int he centre." It looks absolutely like a seam line down the middle of the model. Including over and through every panel and texture, including the canopy windscreen.

Look at the panel lines, though- not possible unless it's a separate piece due to the limitations of standard two part steel molds.

Yup. Gotta be a separate piece. For some reason they put a little ridge on most of it.

**GrimDork**

So. It's a little ridge. I'm assuming if we don't like it on our own personal models we could fairly easily scrape or file it away (y'know, hard plastic and all)?

I mean I get it that some of you will consider it a design flaw and that you don't buy models to change them to your liking but, meh, certainly doesn't seem like something I'll be concerned over. The real question is can I get by with just one...

**timetowaste85**

GrimDork wrote:
So. It's a little ridge. I'm assuming if we don't like it on our own personal models we could fairly easily scrape or file it away (y'know, hard plastic and all)?

I mean I get it that some of you will consider it a design flaw and that you don't buy models to change them to your liking but, meh, certainly doesn't seem like something I'll be concerned over. The real question is can I get by with just one...

Nope. You need 7. One isn't enough. I need like 10.

**MLaw**

I suggest getting a quality set of sanding stick and break up that ridge over the panels you don't like it on by using circular motions. I personally think that ridge was a bad call but I think the amount of attention it's gotten is comical.

After seeing the BoW video, the Interceptor is pretty much the size I thought it was. It looks like it could hold *maybe* 5 or 6 models. In a game where you need to field triple digits.. that's not really gonna cut it IMO.

**GrimDork**

But it *can* apparently carry around peace keepers and it's still a gunship. I don't think it's so much of a dedicated transport as it is a flying tank that can also shoot. But I could be wrong.

I got some sanding sticks. They're pretty nice but I found that the grit wore off of the tip of the stick absurdly quickly and left me resorting to my usual methods instead. If I wanted to buy a couple hundred of them to have on hand...they'd be pretty useful.

Getting dangerously close to beating the current stretch goal tonight, wonder if the mantic lad(s) is(are) around.

**DaveC**

It's Transport (1) which means it can transport a 5 man team

**lord_blackfang**

Are we at that point that every 40k transport discussion reaches at one point where people don't understand that real soldiers don't have 5 feet of personal space each like minis do?

**GrimDork**

Quite possibly. Though that bay on the Interceptor does look pretty small to hold very many enforcers. And peace keepers will be crammed in like sardines to fit 5 in that space, maybe if they hug the walls and one lays out on the floor

Well, ehh, it's not that tight, but standing room only for peacekeepers for sure. Meh, it's power armor, either unit type is probably magnetically latched to the walls or something. 700 monies to stretch, go go gooooO!

**Da Boss**

Isn't it pretty standard to "shrink" vehicles in 28mm games to make them more usable on the battlefield?

**Compel**

They certainly do shrink the vehicles in Bolt Action.

I think it looks *really* *really* dumb...

**GrimDork**

Probably, there's also the skewed perception you get when all of the models are on 25-32mm bases that are 3mm thick (often more so with textured basing) lined up next to vehicles which are not on similarly large bases. Often makes appropriately scaled vehicles like cars and what not from other lines end up looking awfully smaller than they should when they're 'technically the right scale'.

But yeah, they're probably smaller than they ought to be too.

**Da Boss**

I like the interceptor thingies anyhow. The Enforcers are really cool looking overall. And once I re-wrote the plague into Fallout style Super Mutants in my head, I like them too. I think this could be a slow burning success for Mantic.

But I am thinking maybe I will wait til it's all on retail. 2016 is a long way away. I could get a bunch of battlezones right now and paint them up in preparation.

**MLaw**

Having been inside numerous military helicopters and having helped design CBTs for them, people do need a bit of personal space. Especially if you're festooned with gear in a vehicle that's tossing about in the air dodging fire while your mates are getting their guns ready. You need even more space when you're getting back on. As for actual scale.. I'm a pretty staunch supporter of using 1/43-1/56 scale vehicles etc. I am not a fan of most "heroic" proportions as I've felt for a few years that it looks clownish and cartoony.

**insaniak**

I have removed a bunch of off-topic chatter. For the record, discussion of potential kits for other games has nothing to do with this kickstarter.

Edit: and if you want to discuss whether or not something is relevant to the thread, maybe try PMing a mod, rather than derailing the thread to discuss whether or not something would be on topic...

**GrimDork**

Welp glad I wasted my time typing up that response and being so thoughtful as to spoiler the images so as to not bother anyone who wasn't interested in looking. Oh well, off topic is off topic.

Total still gravitating roughly 700 away from current goal for most of the evening, suspect breakage when the sun dawns on whichever group is next. Excited to see what we can hit before the 48 hour warning.

**scarletsquig**

There's a $115 EB open right now if anyone wants to ninja-grab it!

**angelofvengeance**

From update #26

NEW! $330,000 Reinforcements 4 - Free Ajax Siege Strider and Iron Ancestor

Developed during the Trotanic war, the GR95 model Strider, commonly known as the ‘Ajax’ variant, was developed to help corporate forces break through armoured chokepoints. The Ajax has been up-armoured and uses smoke rounds and a heavy ‘Aggressor’ shield, essentially a reinforced and upscaled version of the Defender, to help it survive extended time under fire. Its grav-ram spear can deliver a colossal amount of force to a defined area or launch individual spearheads a short distance against moving targets. Given time, the Ajax can reduce even the strongest structure or armour to rubble and wreckage.

If we hit this goal, we will produce the Ajax Siege Strider and include it free in the Enforcer Battlegroup.

The Ajax upgrade kit allows you to arm the Strider with an enlarged Defender Shield and a Grav-ram Spear, which can be used in combat or as a ranged weapon.

We will include 1 upgrade kit free in with the Strider Formation...
... and you can add-on individual Ajax Siege Striders for $18.

But that’s not all…

One good walker goal deserves another, so we’ll also include a free Iron Ancestor in with every Forge Father Battlegroup when we hit this goal, giving the force some extra hitting power.

Coming Soon:

Asterian Flyer, Plague/GCPS Vehicle or GCPS Troopers - which should be our next hard plastic kit?

Our next hard plastic kit is coming up: which would you want to see and why?