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Bob has it in one. Much easier to squirrel away £30-40 a month and pay it in January/February rather than take a big hit in a few days.

The fact is, nobody knows how much $1 backers are actually in for. Some of them could be sitting on a couple of those 20 for 20 infantry deals or a few mules or the battlemat. Or they could be waiting like the rest of us. I imagine there's a few who just want updates too.

 MLaw wrote:
That's the Corp character locked.
Looks like they decided to go with the Asterian transport next after all.

They locked the Corp Character in favor of the Asterian transport?

That's weird...

 Alpharius wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
That's the Corp character locked.
Looks like they decided to go with the Asterian transport next after all.

They locked the Corp Character in favor of the Asterian transport?

That's weird...

Sorry.. pre-coffee posting. She was up next anyway.. she's locked in now.
The Asterian Transport is up next. For a while Mantic was asking if people wanted the Asterian flyer thingy or a GCPS/Plague vehicle kit. Maybe the Mule was what they meant but I thought it was in reference to the dropship or main battle tank.

 MLaw wrote:
The fact is, nobody knows how much $1 backers are actually in for.

I'm in for $375 at the moment but with only a $1 reward level selected.

Cripes, they could at least give you your weight in miniatures for free for your RC work!

 pretre wrote:
I know this is probably heresy, but anyone else think Mantic should add a new warpath faction of holy female warriors? Couldn't hurt pledge levels.

The idea I once suggested for this was the Order of the Shield - a militarised Salvation Army, basically, founded to protect established human colonies after the Corporation's own invasion forces move on.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I know this is probably heresy, but anyone else think Mantic should add a new warpath faction of holy female warriors? Couldn't hurt pledge levels.

The idea I once suggested for this was the Order of the Shield - a militarised Salvation Army, basically, founded to protect established human colonies after the Corporation's own invasion forces move on.

That would be awesome and make them a bunch of cash. Hard plastic not-SOB.

It's a universe where people aren't stupid, so it seems unlikely to make a combat unit suck on purpose.

I'm most likely dropping down to a dollar as well.

I'm much more interested in Fire Fight than Warpath itself, and honestly, I'm really only looking to supplement my Deadzone stuff.

I still wish for a Deadzone sampler pledge at roughly the same price as Advanced Warfare, with a few of the new plastics for each faction, maybe some of the metal characters, toss in a vehicle... it wouldn't break the bank for Mantic, especially if they locked in what you got.

Guess I'll just go in for add ons in the PM. Wouldn't have minded still getting the book and all the bonuses with the pledge levels though.

I'm spending all I have on Mierce this month,

so it's $1 only for mantic (although I'd want to see at least early renders of the GCPS troops & Mule, and the Veer-myn tunneller before I'd have done more than that anyway)

 Alpharius wrote:
Yarp?

Anyway, there are almost 700 $1 backers.

I wonder what they're waiting for/need to see before upping?

I'm at $115 but I personally may need to drop to $1 depending on my budget (which sucks as I will have a bunch of free money a few days after the KS ends). Three week surprise kickstarter didn't give me enough time to budget, honestly.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It's a universe where people aren't stupid, so it seems unlikely to make a combat unit suck on purpose.

Maybe they have to use certain weapons and tactics to maintain their tax exempt status?

Probably going to go in for a dollar, too, actually. Didn't realize that the lowest level pledge comes with PDFs of the rules. On the off-chance they actually turn into something good, I can use them for something. And when the pledge manager rolls around, I might add on some odds and ends, again depending on how the concept art translates into actual models.

 pretre wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I know this is probably heresy, but anyone else think Mantic should add a new warpath faction of holy female warriors? Couldn't hurt pledge levels.

The idea I once suggested for this was the Order of the Shield - a militarised Salvation Army, basically, founded to protect established human colonies after the Corporation's own invasion forces move on.

That would be awesome and make them a bunch of cash. Hard plastic not-SOB.

Stop triggering my BTSD... Basilean traumatic stress disorder.

I'm currently in for $115 but the base pledge isn't really that great so I'm likely to drop down to $1 and then just go in on the hard plastic 20-man bundles. That's pretty much the best place for my money considering the shipping costs.

No one posted the Asterian Chira Transport WIP yet?



Off to a good start just hope the small wings can support the side pods properly.

And a clue to the next stretch goal: The Wheels of Squeal

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It's a universe where people aren't stupid, so it seems unlikely to make a combat unit suck on purpose.

Maybe they have to use certain weapons and tactics to maintain their tax exempt status?

Sonic and microwave weapons. Dial them down to non-lethal levels for peacekeeping duties, dial them up when the Forgefathers show up wanting their planet back.

 judgedoug wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Yarp?

Anyway, there are almost 700 $1 backers.

I wonder what they're waiting for/need to see before upping?

I'm at $115 but I personally may need to drop to $1 depending on my budget (which sucks as I will have a bunch of free money a few days after the KS ends). Three week surprise kickstarter didn't give me enough time to budget, honestly.

You have up to seven days to pay the balance otherwise they cancel your transaction so you should be good for the 115

 DaveC wrote:
No one posted the Asterian Chira Transport WIP yet?

Spoiler:

Off to a good start just hope the small wings can support the side pods properly.

And a clue to the next stretch goal: The Wheels of Squeal

It's HIPS, so those engines are hollow (and light) and the wall thickness on those wings is probably 1-2mm all round. I'm pretty sure those will be fairly robust.

 Bolognesus wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
No one posted the Asterian Chira Transport WIP yet?

Spoiler:

Off to a good start just hope the small wings can support the side pods properly.

And a clue to the next stretch goal: The Wheels of Squeal

It's HIPS, so those engines are hollow (and light) and the wall thickness on those wings is probably 1-2mm all round. I'm pretty sure those will be fairly robust.

for display I wouldn't worry, but I think Bolognesus has a point when it comes to a gaming model being pulled in and out of foam cases, they could end up a weak point if mantic isn't careful

If there's going to be a problem with it, it will be the center of gravity and not structural strength. It does not look like it will be possible to put the flying stand directly underneath the center of gravity (because there's nothing there), and if that is true, it will exert some torque on the top of the stand. GW used to use flying stands with a small peg on top that was prone to snapping, and if Mantic uses the same method an off-center flying stand would be more vulnerable.

 Alpharius wrote:
Yarp?

Anyway, there are almost 700 $1 backers.

I wonder what they're waiting for/need to see before upping?

For me it's my Kings of War 2 pledge to arrive. I got the Blaine figure, but not my living legend pledge. Nothing but auto responses from the missing order forms. I posted in the warpath Kickstarter and THAT got a response. Too bad they don't care anymore after the ship everything (well enough of everything to call it everything) to listen to complaints and take care of their customer base. There are plenty of others waiting at the $1 pledge level also. Plus why put in the money up front when I can wait till the pledgemanager arrives? Are they really not going to unlock the fake stretch goals?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Cripes, they could at least give you your weight in miniatures for free for your RC work!

*looks at unpainted model pile* I'm not sure that'll necessarily be doing me a solid...........

Signed up as a $1.00 backer for now. Dakka posts and my general unfamiliarity with Mantic are leading me to air on the side of caution. I usually go for GW models, how does Mantic stack up detail/quality wise? I've never done a KS before, so I'm a little leery.

Their new HIPs stuff is getting there, but not up to the latest GW levels of sharpness/detail, but pretty good,

their metals are pretty good (although some stuff that the QC department should spot does get through but you can get this replaced if you're unluck enough to get them)

Their older restic stuff is either OK, or horrible depending on how prepared you are to work with the material (cleaning it us is a pain)

Mantic's hard plastic sci-fi models are excellent, details, extra parts and overall quality are just as good as GW.

Here are some good hi-res pics of the Enforcer sprue, equips 5 models with rifles and/or assault weaponry and has 2 heavy weapon options too, if you zoom in you can get a feel for how fine the detailing is on some parts like the guns and wristblades:

http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Enforcer-Sprue-A.jpg
http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Enforcer-Sprue-B.jpg

The bulk of the stuff in this Kickstarter will be just as good in terms of material, quality and build options.

grumpy_newenglander wrote:
Signed up as a $1.00 backer for now. Dakka posts and my general unfamiliarity with Mantic are leading me to air on the side of caution. I usually go for GW models, how does Mantic stack up detail/quality wise? I've never done a KS before, so I'm a little leery.

Well, the thing with a kickstarter is that you aren't making a purchase. You are making a pledge, and they almost certainly will provide you the "rewards" associated with that pledge, but don't think that any consumer protections apply. If they fail to deliver, or deliver late, or deliver something very different... you are stuck with it. Mantic has always delivered, and has a good track record for timely delivery. Individual packages can often be short (or plus!) items, and it can take a while to get it corrected. One of the biggest frustrations with Mantic is that every kickstarter has a huge error rate, and then they say "we have so many complaints it will take us too long to fix them all." In short, Mantic is reliable, but not strictly professional when compared to other major companies.

Mantic's models are a mixed bag. The technical quality isn't bad, and generally runs roughly at the level of early 2000's GW sprues. Compared to modern GW, Malifuax, or Warlord sprues, they are a bit underdetailed and lack posability. The aesthetic quality is a matter of taste, some like their stuff, some don't.

However, they look good painted up, and are generally cheap enough to make up for some of their downsides. here are some painted corporation troopers (the older, restic models), that I think look quite nice in a very simple color scheme.

If you have the cash, and don't mind waiting a year for your toys, it's not a bad thing to take a flier on.

The HIPS zombies and photos of Veer-myn sprues say that their HIPS are not all up to those standards SS.

While not horrible, they are not super sharp or crisp like the aforementioned GW sprues.



found some pics of Pathfinder sprues too



I have Enforcers and Forgefathers and yes, for the most part those HIPS are very very sharp. I also have zombies though and there's some unwanted softness there.

 MLaw wrote:
I have Enforcers and Forgefathers and yes, for the most part those HIPS are very very sharp. I also have zombies though and there's some unwanted softness there.

The zombies (and ghouls, and skeletons, and elves, and dwarves) are done by Renedra, which, amusingly, is the former head of GW's plastics division (and whose company GW bought to start their plastics)
Sculpted traditionally (3up) and tooled in the UK.

The Enforcers and Forge Guard are newer sprues, 3D designed and tooled in China.