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Thanks, Bonespace, did you translate it? There seem to be some obvious (spelling?) mistakes and a title mixing.

GSC in a tyranid army.....that's new isn't it. Normally the regular tyranids just nom them with everyone else maybe they go a little more willingly but still.

I think you just assume that the cultists are temporarily useful to the Hive Mind at that point, even if they will be eaten later. I mean -- I can't see the nids sparing cultists at the point where they're breaking down all biomass. But I also can't see them attacking cultists who are currently useful, instead of attacking Guard or Marines or whoever it is who is currently shooting at them.

migooo wrote:
GSC in a tyranid army.....that's new isn't it. Normally the regular tyranids just nom them with everyone else maybe they go a little more willingly but still.

Not new.
GSC are the front runners, harbingers of the Tyranid coming and paving the way with the Magus acting like a homing beacon,
But yes they do get consumed with everything else when it is all said and done and are happy for it.

The first Tyranid army list, in White Dwarf 145, had Brood Brothers, Patriarch, Magus, Mind Slaves and Hybrids next to Genestealers, Tyranid Warriors, Carnifexes and Hunterslayers (Termagants). In 2nd Edition there were two lists but they could ally.

The larger the Cult, the stronger the psychic beacon given off for the Hive Mind to follow. Upon invasion the Cult wages open war (if it hasn't started already) and once the planet is conquored they are consumed along with all other biomass (including the Tyranid ground forces).

Yes, I don't see a problem with them being allied.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Yes, I don't see a problem with them being allied.

Nids need some love (Tyrant spam is boring), and hell Genestealers need some love.
Win win.

Crablezworth wrote:
I've earned my nitpicking. Believe.

Spoiler:

Exalt.

mazik765 wrote:You should know by now we can't have any toleration of dissent against the glorious Workshop!

Fixed that for you.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
The larger the Cult, the stronger the psychic beacon given off for the Hive Mind to follow. Upon invasion the Cult wages open war (if it hasn't started already) and once the planet is conquored they are consumed along with all other biomass (including the Tyranid ground forces).

Ninja'd.

I'm gonna have to find some suitable vehicle. I don't want to go the old limo way, but I don't want to stray too far. Something a bit more paramilitary, at least. WWII staff car? Some kind of armoured car? Oooh...

 Vermis wrote:
I'm gonna have to find some suitable vehicle. I don't want to go the old limo way, but I don't want to stray too far. Something a bit more paramilitary. WWII staff car? Some kind of armoured car? Oooh...

There's really only one good option other than a limo.

CRASSUS ARMORED ASSAULT TRANSPORT.

 Bonespace wrote:

Games Workshop wrote:
These veteran Space Marines will make great champions for any Space Marine army!
11x individual Space Marine Veteran Champions (equivalent to approximately £ 215 / € 275 retail normally)

Look how benevolent we are! We could have put all 11 minis in $30 clampacks, but we didn't!

"Baby, I didn't mean to do that the last time I was angry. You know how I get when I drink. Just come on home, and I promise it won't happen again. Look, I got you something nice. I didn't have to, but that's how much I love you. From here on out, everything's going to be different, you'll see."

Don't worry, G-dubs. They're already packing their bags and coming home. All is forgiven

I just realized that the box doesn't has human cultists. I guess if you want a full Genestealer cult you need to ally AM for the human fodder.

 Vermis wrote:
I'm gonna have to find some suitable vehicle. I don't want to go the old limo way, but I don't want to stray too far. Something a bit more paramilitary, at least. WWII staff car? Some kind of armoured car? Oooh...

I think I'm going to do something based off one of these:

I'm actually pretty hyped for this, and depending on the price, may pick one up.

Also, I get that it's cool to hate on GW, but seriously, they bring back Genestealer Cult and half the people hate on it? GW could've just said "feth you" and kept pumping out gak like AoS. I think it's cool they're trying to bring back some fan favorites.

 jreilly89 wrote:
I'm actually pretty hyped for this, and depending on the price, may pick one up.

Also, I get that it's cool to hate on GW, but seriously, they bring back Genestealer Cult and half the people hate on it? GW could've just said "feth you" and kept pumping out gak like AoS. I think it's cool they're trying to bring back some fan favorites.

To be fair the number of naysayers in the thread can be counted on one hand, I don't think I've ever seen this degree of excitment for any GW release before (though admitedly I've only been playing 40K for a year now).

 jreilly89 wrote:
I'm actually pretty hyped for this, and depending on the price, may pick one up.

Also, I get that it's cool to hate on GW, but seriously, they bring back Genestealer Cult and half the people hate on it? GW could've just said "feth you" and kept pumping out gak like AoS. I think it's cool they're trying to bring back some fan favorites.

The GW hate borders on pathetic these days.
We have had great releases and this is another one.
People seem to stick around just to hate and whine and piss on everything that comes by.
I mean how pathetic does your life have to be to hate the company so much, yet you can't sack up and cut ties so you just troll message boards.

Anyway, looking forward to this.
Will pick up one box myself and will probably split another to get another GSC half depending on the rules.

 Tyran wrote:
I just realized that the box doesn't has human cultists. I guess if you want a full Genestealer cult you need to ally AM for the human fodder.

Yeah, I think that's how we'll get all the tanks, etc. into the army. I'd be surprised to see "Cult Leman Russes" etc. in the eventual codex. GW doesn't approach army design that way anymore.


Regarding non-limo vehicles...there are some kits in current ranges that can be converted...

Free on the website for the rules is very, very nice. I'll probably pick up the actual white dwarfs from my local store because I like to get smaller purchases once in a while from him.

I'm definitely looking at 2 boxes. And I'll be looking to unload the SM from the second box if anyone is interested they can PM me.

PM sent !!

 Hulksmash wrote:
Free on the website for the rules is very, very nice.

Are they free?

It just says they will be available on the website.

Maybe I'm missing something or being too cynical...

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Free on the website for the rules is very, very nice.

Are they free?

It just says they will be available on the website.

Maybe I'm missing something or being too cynical...

They normally don't tout "on the website" if they are charging. They say, available for purchase or just leave it at available in WD *** in our webstore. It's similar to the actual Tyranid unit entries that are still on the website from when they did that release in their actual store entry so I'd say you're being to cynical.

 Hulksmash wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Free on the website for the rules is very, very nice.

Are they free?

It just says they will be available on the website.

Maybe I'm missing something or being too cynical...

They normally don't tout "on the website" if they are charging. They say, available for purchase or just leave it at available in WD *** in our webstore. It's similar to the actual Tyranid unit entries that are still on the website from when they did that release in their actual store entry so I'd say you're being to cynical.

Ok awesome, great news

 BloodGrin wrote:

migooo wrote:
GSC in a tyranid army.....that's new isn't it. Normally the regular tyranids just nom them with everyone else maybe they go a little more willingly but still.

Not new.
GSC are the front runners, harbingers of the Tyranid coming and paving the way with the Magus acting like a homing beacon,
But yes they do get consumed with everything else when it is all said and done and are happy for it.

i dont see them going out their way to consume the cult but neither do i see them not eating them if they are in the way to eat an army/ house / town etc honestly. maybe i see the hive mind as just eternal hunger and it isnt but i also dont see it capable of rational thought

 BloodGrin wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
I'm actually pretty hyped for this, and depending on the price, may pick one up.

Also, I get that it's cool to hate on GW, but seriously, they bring back Genestealer Cult and half the people hate on it? GW could've just said "feth you" and kept pumping out gak like AoS. I think it's cool they're trying to bring back some fan favorites.

The GW hate borders on pathetic these days.
We have had great releases and this is another one.
People seem to stick around just to hate and whine and piss on everything that comes by.
I mean how pathetic does your life have to be to hate the company so much, yet you can't sack up and cut ties so you just troll message boards.

Anyway, looking forward to this.
Will pick up one box myself and will probably split another to get another GSC half depending on the rules.

Seriously, are you guys living in some weird alternate reality or something? Because there are more people complaining about "haters" on this one page than there are people actually hating on this release in the entire thread. Even AdMech - which was the most positively received GW release I'd ever seen(and I've been dragging my carcass around 40K fandom for 20 years now) - didn't get as universally positive a reaction as the return of the GSC.

In the local idiom; get a haud o' yersels, ya bams.

migooo wrote:

 BloodGrin wrote:

migooo wrote:
GSC in a tyranid army.....that's new isn't it. Normally the regular tyranids just nom them with everyone else maybe they go a little more willingly but still.

Not new.
GSC are the front runners, harbingers of the Tyranid coming and paving the way with the Magus acting like a homing beacon,
But yes they do get consumed with everything else when it is all said and done and are happy for it.

i dont see them going out their way to consume the cult but neither do i see them not eating them if they are in the way to eat an army/ house / town etc honestly. maybe i see the hive mind as just eternal hunger and it isnt but i also dont see it capable of rational thought

The hive mind has been depicted as reasonably intelligent on several occasions. Bestial, certainly, but not entirely instinctual. And remember, most of the actual "eating" comes after an area is already under their control; I don't think it's far-fetched to have scenarios in which the hive mind takes direct control over the broodmind and uses them to help overrun a region/hive before having them gleefully leap into the digestion pools

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
What happen if I buy the game in 6 weeks? No 40K rules, tough you missed them lightweight?

Nope, you just buy a copy of WD digital online.

 gorgon wrote:

 Tyran wrote:
I just realized that the box doesn't has human cultists. I guess if you want a full Genestealer cult you need to ally AM for the human fodder.

Yeah, I think that's how we'll get all the tanks, etc. into the army. I'd be surprised to see "Cult Leman Russes" etc. in the eventual codex. GW doesn't approach army design that way anymore.

Again, who says you're going to get tanks? Who says that we're not going to see the "human fodder" whenever we get a full Codex release?

 Rayvon wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
What happen if I buy the game in 6 weeks? No 40K rules, tough you missed them lightweight?

Nope, you just buy a copy of WD digital online.

Or, IDK - download them from the Games Workshop website? Since they've already said that they'll be available there?

Tyranid models released after the latest Codex (January 2014) got free unit rules PDFs on their GW webstore page. You can also download them here:

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/free-to-download.html

As White Dwarf Weekly hosts their free downloads there, the GC and Deathwatch rules will most likely be hosted there as well.

Human brothers interest me not. Use some Chaos Cultists or Guardsmen. All Hybrid, all the time for me, baby.

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Free on the website for the rules is very, very nice.

Are they free?

It just says they will be available on the website.

Maybe I'm missing something or being too cynical...

Perhaps you missed the big load of free AOS rules and scrolls or the Nid data sheets for the releases not too long ago.