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The closest thing we will have to a BA book in 30K in the foreseeable future will probably be book 6, which is apparently going to have the legion rules only. No unique units and probably no Rite of War.
Also the OP contains the definitely-nonsense CSM rumors that BoLS shared recently.
Yeah sorry, I'm going to order a salt mine's worth of produce with these rumors... There's nothing definite about a rumor until they bear fruit.
There will be Legion rules & 2 Rites of War for the BA in Book 6, which is due in Feb most likely. But yeah TalonZahn is on the money, with Prospero taking up next year (and FW's priority making sure the relevant models are released smoothly alongside and immediately after HH 7: Inferno, rather than waiting for years) there is simply no way Sanguinius will be next year.
H.B.M.C. wrote: So even if we don't get a Sanguinius model, we'll still get his rules, right?
No, I don't think so. It's only the legion rules and rites of war for the Blood Angels, Dark Angels and White Scars in the next book, not the characters and units for them.
Yeah no Sanguinius rules. Those will come in book 8/9 or whatever.
It cool that they're getting 2 Rites of War though, I vaguely remember hearing about that a while ago... Of course me being me i promptly forgot. So stoked for Thousand Sons though. HH7 should be out around Q3 next year, right?
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Azreal13 wrote: Just for comparison, here's the OP's previous New and Rumour thread featuring "confirmed facts" about AOS before it was released...
Spoiler:
Age of Sigmar is coming out soon, and with false rumours of a "bubbled reality" and etc. I have decided to share some confirmed info. If anyone else knows anything about the upcoming Age of Sigmar, you are more than welcome to share your info (with substantial evidence).
Right. First off is that the upcoming Age of Sigmar bases. According to Rhellion via twitter, Age of Sigmar is both for veterans and new players. It is confirmed that there will be round bases (as already seen in warhammer fantasy e.g. fanatics and mangler squigs) for some units. However, the majority of the models will continue to have their regular bases with the exception of certain heroes and special characters.
According to Deathwing897 on BOLS/Warseer, he has confirmed that some armies will be entirely erased from the game. Though it is unclear which armies will be available in the next edition, there is a large rumour that unpopular armies e.g. beastmen and wood elves will just be pushed into a larger faction, which we all have seen in the End times. The ongoing rumour is that GW will retain their armies in the end-times-ish way: Legions of chaos, Elves, Dwarves, Skaven, Realm of men (confirmed. Basically brettonia + empire) etc. There has been very little info regarding the Lizardmen. But it is likely that GW will retain the army as the latest lizard update has proved to have been a success.
Regarding the new boxed edition set, it has been confirmed by Joshmarine98 on BOLS that one army is the realm of men. The other army has not been confirmed. There is confirmation however that the realm of men will include a unit of knights, 2 units of infantry (similar to brettonian peasants), a war machine, and 2 heroes (captain and wizard or engineer).
The background will be in the New World, the only remaining area left in the Warhammer World. The Chaos gods will return but as a more united front e.g. bloodletters with blessings of Nurgle etc. The Realm of men will also be united under a new emperor and god. The Undead will inhabit in old ruins of the lizard men temples as well as elves, and the skaven. Dwarves will establish new forts in mountainous areas. Though there has been a large question regarding the return of chaos dwarves, it is highly unlikely. But there is still an ongoing rumour that chaos dwarves will return as some dwarves were sucked into the void/warp in the final battle.
New confirmed rules include a major change in the alliances. It will work similarly to the 40k alliance chart in 6th ed. Other major changes include a new rule, Death to the Gods, which is supposed to be given for any human character opposing the chaos gods. This gives them stupidity, hatred or frenzy, and a ward save.
This is all I know. If you know anything else about the upcoming age of sigmar, feel free to post... again, with substantial evidence.
Draw your own conclusions.
Citings BOLS as a source. Yeaaaaaah. No.
Brets and Beasts to be discontinued? Or...perhaps, more accurately. updated and adjusted in aesthetics to fit the AoS theme - you know, as GW originally said when AoS came out - they mentioned that races would be updated and models would change in aesthetics to match - the Dwarfs being an example.
The Bret-Beast squatting rumours have been floating around as long as the plastic Thunderhawk has.
LOC is confirmed Fayric. Dwarves are confirmed. Only question is if GW will follow through their original plan of release. 9th ed was replaced by AoS as GW concluded that 9 ed will no longer appeal to the fans.
Tau problems?
What you need is more DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
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Automatically Appended Next Post: All of you think that GW has a definite planning for next year - that's an incorrect assumption. What GW does (like many other companies) is that they only have a preliminary plan- Release of product A, B, C will occur this year. If I am correct, their preliminary plan only stretches out from 2 to 4 years. Every year they take the preliminary plan and modify it right before another release. E.g.
(The example below is purely an example)
HH didn't sell as much as we expected - Maybe we should hold HH products for a few more years. Thus, though they have "new kits" ready to be released, they won't be released for the next few years.
Sanguinus is a good example. Model ready and confirmed. Release is probable- but will GW sell it next year is what you're arguing about. Only GW knows.
Despite what you may hear, AoS shouldn't have existed. When 8th ed was released, GW planned to have 9th released in 5 or 6 years. Once they realised, 8th was dying and sales declined dramatically, they rebooted the whole game into AoS. Sales rose with the event of the End Times. When people showed interest into the Nagash kit, they released other "big kits" which were ready since a few years back.
This applies to all releases in GW. High sales? Great - let's take this to a whole new level. Either release of same limited kit in a few years or keep on going with the big kits. Low Sales? Either ignore it or give it the AoS treatment.
Right now, GW has a ton of new kits awaiting for their release. LOC and dwarves ARE confirmed. LOC was developed at the same time around the Bloodthirster kit, only question was when GW would release it. The Glottkin was supposed to be a GUO model, but with the end times it became a character model. Plastic plague marines - development in process, but with the success of HH, it could easily be pushed back to 2017 or even 18. Discontinuation of Brettonian and the Beastmen models doesn't necessarily indicate that GW will give it the Slaneesh or Squat treatment. Bretonnia could receive new models which they haven't got in decades. Only question is if people are willing to buy the new version of Bretonnia.
CSM confirmation was promised ever since the start of 2015- GW knows the current codex might need a few tweaks. Only reason they haven't done it is because of End Times and the development of HH.
Overall, future releases are dependant on how many people will buy and what they want. Right now, old games e.g. Necromunda etc. are said to be underway. If this is true, expect another delay. All I'm giving you is the basic preliminary plan told by the GW and FW insiders. Whether or not if you decide it to be gak, that's your choice.
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Tau problems?
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MaxT wrote: I don't think you know what the word confirmed means.
It's confirmed by the anonymous "insider". Because that is what confirmed means.
Seriously, what is with the huge influx of hull gak GW news threads lately? Is it because it is around the holidays and some basement dwellers are lonely and want attention?
Maybe these bogus, blind stabs in the dark can be added to the rumor tracker? At least that way it helps to filter out the vast amounts of nonsense from the very few actually credible rumor mongers.
At his point, the only things we know to pay attention to, are Sad Panda & Lady Atia's predictions of new Dwarfs/Fyre Slayers in January, and Space Wolves in Failuary. (sorry, Leaf joke there!)
Experiment 626 wrote: Maybe these bogus, blind stabs in the dark can be added to the rumor tracker? At least that way it helps to filter out the vast amounts of nonsense from the very few actually credible rumor mongers.
At his point, the only things we know to pay attention to, are Sad Panda & Lady Atia's predictions of new Dwarfs/Fyre Slayers in January, and Space Wolves in Failuary. (sorry, Leaf joke there!)
I sincerely hope that Space Wolves are not getting a new codex, just a model rerelease like what Blood Angels did last month. Clampack Krom and another model. If they release a new codex, it will mean that the release schedule has been trimmed to less than 18 months between codexes.
@MaxT the thing about GW is they have models but confirmation on dates is always unreliable. I only pointed out what kits are in the final stage of production in GW and the ongoing talk in GW.
If you want more accurate info, quit your job and go work for GW
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Tau problems?
What you need is more DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
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The fact remains your accuracy at this point remains so poor as to be almost negative, and anything you're suggesting that's remotely plausible is either a relatively logical guess, or has already been mentioned by superior rumour mongers.
For the record, I don't generally call out any old poster on bs, but on the occasions I have, I've yet to be wrong.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
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Azreal Most of the kits listed above are already prepared for release. Besides, I see no evidence on the contrary that the products listed above are BS, as according to you.
Tau problems?
What you need is more DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
(add epic gun sounds)
Experiment 626 wrote: Maybe these bogus, blind stabs in the dark can be added to the rumor tracker? At least that way it helps to filter out the vast amounts of nonsense from the very few actually credible rumor mongers.
At his point, the only things we know to pay attention to, are Sad Panda & Lady Atia's predictions of new Dwarfs/Fyre Slayers in January, and Space Wolves in Failuary. (sorry, Leaf joke there!)
I sincerely hope that Space Wolves are not getting a new codex, just a model rerelease like what Blood Angels did last month. Clampack Krom and another model. If they release a new codex, it will mean that the release schedule has been trimmed to less than 18 months between codexes.
18 months depending on what codex it is... Guard are likely now 2-3+ years between books going off of Sad Panada's info. (ie: Mont'ka being their 'new rules release')
Chaos Marines are now 3+ years old with no light at the end of the tunnel. Daemons are almost 3 years old, against with no new rules anywhere on the horizon.
Orks, 'Nids are still 2+ years old and waiting.
Basically, it seems to be that if you're a Loyalist Marine, Eldar or Tau player, you get to enjoy rapidly updated rules.
If you're an Ork/'Nid/Guard/DE/'Cron player, you get periodic updates, and/or at least some campaign support.
If you're a devotee of the Dark Gods, you get nothing at all, because... "Reasons"
nightshae007 wrote: Azreal Most of the kits listed above are already prepared for release. Besides, I see no evidence on the contrary that the products listed above are BS, as according to you.
Yes, and several of the kits have already been hinted at/full on spoiled for some time by people with stellar reputations.
You won't see evidence that something doesn't exist, as that's a logical impossibility, they'll simply never materialise, or something enough like them might come out at some time and you'll point at them as what you intended.
You've made, AFAIK, three great proclamations based on so-called inside info, that the Emperor of Man would appear in End Times (he didn't) that the Old World would persist in Fantasy (that was "confirmed" too) and it blew up, and these rumours. What's changed? Why are these suddenly any more plausible than the other nonsense you've peddled?
The last "rumour monger" with the same degree of, let's say guesswork, in their info also claimed some inside connection to GW, and they proved to be just as reliable as your info has thus far.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
nightshae007 wrote: Azreal Most of the kits listed above are already prepared for release. Besides, I see no evidence on the contrary that the products listed above are BS, as according to you.
Yes, and several of the kits have already been hinted at/full on spoiled for some time by people with stellar reputations.
You won't see evidence that something doesn't exist, as that's a logical impossibility, they'll simply never materialise, or something enough like them might come out at some time and you'll point at them as what you intended.
You've made, AFAIK, three great proclamations based on so-called inside info, that the Emperor of Man would appear in End Times (he didn't) that the Old World would persist in Fantasy (that was "confirmed" too) and it blew up, and these rumours. What's changed? Why are these suddenly any more plausible than the other nonsense you've peddled?
The last "rumour monger" with the same degree of, let's say guesswork, in their info also claimed some inside connection to GW, and they proved to be just as reliable as your info has thus far.
If I recall correctly, wasn't it rumored that the employee who leaked the Horus Heresy boxset photos was fired? If GW was good enough to catch someone taking these photos, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't be catching these "GW insiders," what with all the specifics they give about future products.
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If you're an Ork/'Nid/Guard/DE/'Cron player, you get periodic updates, and/or at least some campaign support.
If you're a devotee of the Dark Gods, you get nothing at all, because... "Reasons"
You have got to be joking. 3 of those armies had previously gone ~10 years without updates. CSM get a Codex every edition.
Chaos was skipped over entirely in 5th edition, and thus far, has been ignored entirely in 7th-7.5 edition.
Our initial 3rd edition codex was so abysmally bad that GW had to give us the 3.5 edition one.
We've had the least flavour of anyone, and been the most outright bland codex ever since 4th edition.
Couple routinely awful rules alongside the oldest & most incomplete model line, with only Sisters of Battle being in a worse state. I'd say Chaos players have been pooped on pretty routinely by GW.
We have 1 single plastic kit that can actually build all of it's options 'out of the box'. Every other non-vehicle kit we have is missing half or more of our units' basic upgrade options, or else is a god awful Finecrap hybrid.
At least we got to share our pain alongside Dark Angel players! But now they've got new shiny and we're still left trying to play 3rd edition tactics with 5th edition pts costing.
Heck, we're the only army in the entire game that doesn't even have our own army-wide special rule! (unless you count, "overcosted and underpowered" as our army wide rule. )
The next Primarchs are Corax (90% finished, just needs his new jump pack since they re-did it, i expect him between new year and february), Alpharius/Dorn by Israel (if i remember it correctly it's Israel who will do them) and Russ with his wolfs ...
Slannesh going from AOS is kind of already confirmed and isn't really represented well in the 40k verse either so not surprising really, but what about a nids release that is rumoured?
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