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 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I don't get the " ...pastries" story at all.

If I named the food, you'd be able to work out the company as there's only one or two distributors in the UK.

Buttery. Winning the story games with a wide margin.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Wait, is someone arguing that Russian Roulette is somehow the "smart" alternative to Polish Roulette?

In any case, if someone was offended, I apologize.

No, just wondering why it's alright to insult a group of people with humor marking them out as stupid.

I'll be honest, I hadn't seen the posts doing that, and wondered if you'd hit reply on the wrong thread.
Having seen it was perpetuated by cuda, I'm not even slightly surprised.

Yeah no. Polish jokes, Irish jokes, whatever.. unless you're making them about yourself, leave 'em at home.

We had a Polish worker at the sign company, smart fella. Spoke two or three words a day to most people outside his work area. Very diligent worker compared to everyone there.. Or smarter. I don't think I ever saw him get told off for slacking.
Our boss and his brother used to speak to him like he wa an actual mentally disabled person. When talking about food, they would mime eating, for example. They'd talk loudly and slowly.
It was one of my very few fuses that would get me pissed off.
He obviously wasn't stupid, in fact he used to be an RAF pilot and engineer. He just couldn't speak English as fast as we could. By God did he understand it to listen to, though. His jokes were on point and more offensive than anyone else's.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I'll be honest, I hadn't seen the posts doing that, and wondered if you'd hit reply on the wrong thread.
Having seen it was perpetuated by cuda, I'm not even slightly surprised.

Yeah no. Polish jokes, Irish jokes, whatever.. unless you're making them about yourself, leave 'em at home.

We had a Polish worker at the sign company, smart fella. Spoke two or three words a day to most people outside his work area. Very diligent worker compared to everyone there.. Or smarter. I don't think I ever saw him get told off for slacking.
Our boss and his brother used to speak to him like he wa an actual mentally disabled person. When talking about food, they would mime eating, for example. They'd talk loudly and slowly.
It was one of my very few fuses that would get me pissed off.
He obviously wasn't stupid, in fact he used to be an RAF pilot and engineer. He just couldn't speak English as fast as we could. By God did he understand it to listen to, though. His jokes were on point and more offensive than anyone else's.

Exactly this. I lived in an area of the country with a large Polish population, and they are very proud of their heritage and place in history. Needless to say, they wouldn't find the joke here at their expense very funny.

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I think there's a slight chance that you might be missing the point.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I'll be honest, I hadn't seen the posts doing that, and wondered if you'd hit reply on the wrong thread.
Having seen it was perpetuated by cuda, I'm not even slightly surprised.

Yeah no. Polish jokes, Irish jokes, whatever.. unless you're making them about yourself, leave 'em at home.

We had a Polish worker at the sign company, smart fella. Spoke two or three words a day to most people outside his work area. Very diligent worker compared to everyone there.. Or smarter. I don't think I ever saw him get told off for slacking.
Our boss and his brother used to speak to him like he wa an actual mentally disabled person. When talking about food, they would mime eating, for example. They'd talk loudly and slowly.
It was one of my very few fuses that would get me pissed off.
He obviously wasn't stupid, in fact he used to be an RAF pilot and engineer. He just couldn't speak English as fast as we could. By God did he understand it to listen to, though. His jokes were on point and more offensive than anyone else's.

I think Buttery better check himself. I'm not the one that started the Polish reference.

Oh get over yourselves. All this navel gazing over a Polish roulette reference?

I've gone and nuked my "Polish Roulette" posts, so hopefully, certain people won't be so upset anymore.

Maybe we can get back to Buttery telling funny stories of woe in the customer service world.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I've gone and nuked my "Polish Roulette" posts, so hopefully, certain people won't be so upset anymore.

Maybe we can get back to Buttery telling funny stories of woe in the customer service world.

Yeah, sorry man. I didn't quite mean to throw you under the bus like that. I just got a little perturbed when someone WRONGFULLY accuses me of something and basically accuses me of being a bigot.

No it's OK. I wasn't thinking that it was going to be a problem.

I was wrong.

Hence, the deletions.

hm... Makes me wonder where all these White Knights that protest Polish jokes are when certain "groups" of people are the butt of jokes. I guess stereotypes are only unfunny some of the time. I guess George Orwell was right, some are more equal than others. Hypocrisy at its finest.

 cuda1179 wrote:
hm... Makes me wonder where all these White Knights that protest Polish jokes are when certain "groups" of people are the butt of jokes. I guess stereotypes are only unfunny some of the time. I guess George Orwell was right, some are more equal than others. Hypocrisy at its finest.

To which groups do you refer? Blacks or Muslims? Last I checked both are very well defended on these boards when people start making undeserved comments against them.

Relapse wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
hm... Makes me wonder where all these White Knights that protest Polish jokes are when certain "groups" of people are the butt of jokes. I guess stereotypes are only unfunny some of the time. I guess George Orwell was right, some are more equal than others. Hypocrisy at its finest.

To which groups do you refer? Blacks or Muslims? Last I checked both are very well defended on these boards when people start making undeserved comments against them.

Try the groups that are "okay" to disparage. Christians, conservatives, whites, men, etc. More than one person that took offense to the Polish comment has sat idly by in threads where that came up and remained silent.

All this over a joke about Polish roulette? Can we please get back to the interesting discussions, like Buttery Comissar's entire life history?

Even the aside about racist jokes lead to an anecdote from Buttery's life where someone in a position of authority was a jerk.

Evidently, at some point the universe got bored with messing with Agrajag and decided to pick on someone else.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
All this over a joke about Polish roulette? Can we please get back to the interesting discussions, like Buttery Comissar's entire life history?

I agree. Buttery does have some interesting life experience. I'd love to hear more from him..........including an apology.

Why does Buttery need to make an apology?

If there are posts in here that anyone feels are against the rules of the site, please report them.

Other than that, there is no other 'correct response', and thinking - and acting as if - there is?

That will most likely net someone a warning and/or suspension.

 Alpharius wrote:
If there are posts in here that anyone feels are against the rules of the site, please report them.

Other than that, there is no other 'correct response', and thinking - and acting as if - there is?

That will most likely net someone a warning and/or suspension.

Very Well.... Reported.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Chatting today with someone from the place I left, as I'm now able to talk about it without crying.

Okay so my ex work place makes all the signs, screens, light boxes and labels for a company. One that made premium ...pastries.
The U.K. / North rep would come in and when we were doing a major job, he'd bring in a selection box of these ...pastries.
The boss would take the box home for his kids. None of the designers, production workers or anyone who did the actual work would get one. I never worked on that project, so I'd have said no anyway.
But this went on for a while.
Then my manager was pulled into a meeting with the rep and our boss, and the rep insisted he had a ...pastry.
My manager had to pick one and sit there and eat it with our boss just staring at him like he wished he'd catch fire, and try to look a) not terrified and b) like he wasn't losing sprinkles and jam everywhere.

God, the same happened at my old workplace.

For nearly six months, a big client of ours came in every monday with either a big box of pastries or fine quality ham or a little crate of wine. This stuff was implied to be shared between our workgroup during the usual meeting in the evening.
Obviously the stuff never came out of our project leader's office.

Once the higher-ups caught word of it (because it always happens no matter how ninja you are)...

The project manager was sacked. He had to refuse his leave package (the money you get here when you are fired/leave) or face being sued for basically stealing from the company(stuff was really expensive and the client supplied invoices. Client was also pretty pissed with him, so he went the extra mile).

Needless to say, I never bring home anything from the job, no matter how perishable it is

See, now that is justice.

Our store won a 60" flatscreen TV for us to raffle off or use in the staff room for our bathroom sales . Store manager got it delivered to his house instead. We never saw it . He was moved and demoted soon after for different reasons and we couldn't prove it so got away with it .

A few short stories:

Looking for gifts:Dating direct reports:Visiting drivers hitting on the staff:I had seen fist-fights on the assembly line of one of the big three's assembly plants.

Assemblers smoking inside the car as they are adding the liner.

Saw on an assembly line a bunch of TV's set up and they would watch the game while putting a car together.

My favorite was being locked in the assembly plant against my will for 3 hours where you were not allowed to enter or exit the facility without a manager there to do it.
I had to pose 3 choices:
1) Get anyone to "let" me out.
2) I leave through the nearest alarmed fire exit.
3) I call the police and complain for wrongful detainment.
I got out OK!

My friend briefly worked for an online retailer of many items. He worked the warehouse floor filling orders. The thing was, workers were NOT allowed to leave until they were searched. He was at the end of his shift, waited in line for 15 minutes to be search, then when he was near the front of the line all the security personel were sent to break. He had to wait an additional 30 minutes for them to return, and another 5 to be searched. Considering he wasn't allowed to leave AND he wasn't being paid I can understand the frustration.

Currently working in a small warehouse ATM, and the sales team are bat gak insane. Seriously, they have a bad habit of coming out with a new addition to a picking order asking us to add more parts to a shipment (which is usually a pallet)...moments after the courier arrives to collect it, and expect US to ask the irate drivers to wait an hour. YOU TELL THE PISSED OFF BURLY DRIVER TO WAIT.

I believe that aforementioned online retailer of many items has been the subject to significant investigation for trying to do that sort of thing in the UK / EU...

Another one of my friends happens to work as a supply and parts stocker for a manufacturer of concrete items. They make birdbaths, statues, concrete benches, and have a contract to provide most of the decorative concrete barriers in front of government buildings (the ones that look pretty, but are actually designed to stop a car). Things that weigh 10,000 pounds or more.

The company used to be pretty nice under the last owner, but got handed down to the kids. Once they took over they started slashing jobs, and reducing benefits. In addition, they throw in major projects meant for their own personal use, while demanding that the current production schedule be maintained. They agree to a customer's order, but sit on it for a month without telling anyone. Then they demand it be done in a week when the customer wanted it. The problem is that there are only so many molds. If a concrete item takes 24 hours to make, you have two molds, you have one week to make everything, and the order is for 30 times......well, there is no physical way to do it. That's even assuming the company signs off on the needed overtime, which they don't.

To make matters even worse, since they just surprise the workers with these orders my friend (in charge of ordering needed material) gets the brunt of the brow beating. They ask why he didn't all ready order parts for items they never told him about, they normally don't keep in stock, and take a week to arrive.

 cuda1179 wrote:
My friend briefly worked for an online retailer of many items. He worked the warehouse floor filling orders. The thing was, workers were NOT allowed to leave until they were searched. He was at the end of his shift, waited in line for 15 minutes to be search, then when he was near the front of the line all the security personel were sent to break. He had to wait an additional 30 minutes for them to return, and another 5 to be searched. Considering he wasn't allowed to leave AND he wasn't being paid I can understand the frustration.

I've heard that company on the news, if I remember right, and people are rightly pissed.

Had to put the men's restroom at the hotel I work at out of order this morning. I made my security check knocked on the mens room door, walked in, and found feces all over the bathroom walls floor and ceiling. The ceiling. Apparently one of the railroad workers went into the bathroom to do some business and then decided to smear it on the wall. We don't know why. All we know is his butt has been kicked out and we are charging his cc for a fair bit of money. The guy is 5 ft tall and standing on the sink counter I don't think he could reach the ceiling, at least not to all the areas he "painted". HOW DID HE GET IT ON THE CEILING? WTF.