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Power shorts, new trend for the 41st millenium beachs all around the galaxy this summer!

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Power shorts, new trend for the 41st millenium beachs all around the galaxy this summer!

Yeah, because in the grim dark future, they have lost the technology to make big size greaves and shoes

 Talys wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Power shorts, new trend for the 41st millenium beachs all around the galaxy this summer!

Yeah, because in the grim dark future, they have lost the technology to make big size greaves and shoes

13th company is always in the warp, they try to make it but the artificers hands keep mutating!

But wait a minute shouldn't there be a wolf priest with them?

More WD pics - via Scanner on the Spikeybits forum

I don't know how they pulled it off, but they look even worse in battle. It makes it look like they really are part of some dance troupe.

Those poses might actually be passable on some Wood Elf Wardancers.

Hmm. Jorts, over the top look and at least half the people dislike them.

Its the John Cena marines.

I like them, they are far from the metal Possessed Marines of 3rd ed who were atrocious indeed.

As suspected, clearer pictures have only worsened my initial impressions. I do like that the second-from-the-right is playing some really sweet riffs on his axe

I think they look a bit better with the axes and hammers there.

A bit.


Ones at the back with the claws though..... oohhh.... Nope.

I like them. And you don't have to make that Jesus karateka either, as there are (I damn hope so) lots of new weapons, maybe 5 copies of each if we get lucky. And for 60$ I we'd better be.

Now the english rules are out how do you read them? There seems to be some who think the leader may take the other weapon options as well and others who think he is limited to the claws.

Wulfen datasheet

Looks to me like the leader comes with two frost claws, so you have to pay for those, but then you can pay extra to get any other weapon. Can't really see any other reading of it.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Now the english rules are out how do you read them? There seems to be some who think the leader may take the other weapon options as well and others who think he is limited to the claws.
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clearly the rules state that you upgrade a wulfen to a pack leader with the cost of claws included. After this option there is no further option to buy any other weapons (you read from up to down) so no other weapon can be bought. This is very standard since waaaaaay back for GW in how you read these purchase lists.

SlyasR wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Now the english rules are out how do you read them? There seems to be some who think the leader may take the other weapon options as well and others who think he is limited to the claws.
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clearly the rules state that you upgrade a wulfen to a pack leader with the cost of claws included. After this option there is no further option to buy any other weapons (you read from up to down) so no other weapon can be bought. This is very standard since waaaaaay back for GW in how you read these purchase lists.

Really? I've never heard of the "you read from up to down" thing?

When it says "Any model may be equipped with one of the following options" I interpret that to mean ANY model, even the Pack Leader.

I'm still undecided. But why not make the leader upgrade 8 pts - without the claws - as he could still be upgraded later? GW would not list leader + claws if he had access to it via upgrades like the other Wulfen.

Edit: He would still keep the launcher as it is not replaced like other weapons with the auto-included claws.

Edit 2: Well weapons arent replaced...

I read the options top-to-bottom, so you can upgrade one model to be a leader with two frost claws.

I always planned on doing a SW army but that idea loses steam with each iteration of the codex and each new terrible sculpt.
These things look awful, the poses seem really badly done and just do not fit any of the weapon options well at all.

Warhams-77 wrote:
I'm still undecided. But why not make the leader upgrade 8 pts - without the claws - as he could still be upgraded later? GW would not list leader + claws if he had access to it via upgrades like the other Wulfen.

Edit: He would still keep the launcher as it is not replaced like other weapons with the auto-included claws.

Why would he be able to take the launcher but not the other items? The claws don't replace any of his items, and neither do any of the weapon options.

So we still don't know what unit(s) get access to the Helfrost Pistol, do we? We do know that the Wulfen can NOT take them, so why are their rules there with them? And what kit will even come with a Helfrost Pistol to equip a unit with? So far the only confirmed kit is the Wulfen, and since they don't get to use it, they probably won't include a Helfrost Pistol in their kit.

The new Ulrik/generic priest in plastic with two head options could have another arm option as well. Maybe even Ulrik gets a new datasheet?

Warhams-77 wrote:
I'm still undecided. But why not make the leader upgrade 8 pts - without the claws - as he could still be upgraded later? GW would not list leader + claws if he had access to it via upgrades like the other Wulfen.

GW aren't exactly brilliant at writing clear rules. My guess is they included the 2 claws automatically with the pack leader simply because the pack leader is a monopose model that comes with them

But the way I read it, he can take other weapons but will simply pay a premium.


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So we still don't know what unit(s) get access to the Helfrost Pistol, do we? We do know that the Wulfen can NOT take them, so why are their rules there with them? And what kit will even come with a Helfrost Pistol to equip a unit with? So far the only confirmed kit is the Wulfen, and since they don't get to use it, they probably won't include a Helfrost Pistol in their kit.

There's also no one currently who can take the "Tempest Hammer".

It clearly states that the wolfen can take ONE of thouse weapons. The leader already comes with claws, so he can't take any other weapons. Besides it would just be too expensive.

Upgrading a Wulfen to a pack leader does not replace anything so you can give him a Auto Grenade, a Single special CC wepaon option and then you cna further upgrade him to a pack leader with Frost claws

Why would you read it any other way?

If it said it replaced all weapons than what you said would be correct.
Technically all wulfen (and the pack leader) retain their original close combat weapon?

 hordrak wrote:
It clearly states that the wolfen can take ONE of thouse weapons. The leader already comes with claws, so he can't take any other weapons. Besides it would just be too expensive.

Good catch. That pretty much settle it

I do not think I have seen this image in this thread so I am reposting it from the Daemons rumour thread.

As clearer pictures come in, these models are starting to look worse than they did in the blurry snapshots. At least before the upper torsos looked salvageable, but that neck. . . those arms. . .

This is not one of Games Workshop's best releases.

This one is awful. But i think youll be able to make five good looking wulfens with the kit. Though, i might have weird taste, since it seems im the only one who loves the packleader (remind me of sabertooth)

Clearly this kit is designed for Marvel fans since the only positive things being said are "Good wolverine standin!" or "sabertooth".

Not sure what you would use either of those proxies for...

So there are NO new traits, psychic powers or relics for the wolves just for daemons and wolves get only formations + wulfen rules according to the WD. The tempest hammer and hellfros pistol is definately for ulric who is shown in an image wielding the hammer. I hope i would be wrong.

PS If we had new psychic powers we would have new data cards for pre order.

Curse of the Wulfen indeed.. blah.

 the Signless wrote:
As clearer pictures come in, these models are starting to look worse than they did in the blurry snapshots. At least before the upper torsos looked salvageable, but that neck. . . those arms. . .

This is not one of Games Workshop's best releases.

Holy s*it. The length of that neck!

 Kirasu wrote:
Clearly this kit is designed for Marvel fans since the only positive things being said are "Good wolverine standin!" or "sabertooth".

Considering the neck, we can add 'Mr Fantastic' and 'The Elongated Man' to the list