Aeneades wrote:
Dark Souls ends in 12 days, if CMON are playing things smart they will announce the contents of the core box and some gameplay details before then.

 cincydooley wrote:
You'll see more info Friday.

 DaveC wrote:
I've been keeping an eye on TGN as they are covering the Expo but nothing yet - CMoN have 20 new games to reveal so it might take a little while to get any info. Hopefully someone will film and post the seminars as has happened in the past.

Saturday, May 7th 2:30pm - 4:00pm

Into the Dark: An Early Look at Massive Darkness

CMON and Guillotine Games are partnering up again to bring you a new dungeon crawl board game: Massive Darkness! Join David Preti (Guillotine Games) and Thiago Aranha (CMON Lead Producer) for an exclusive first look at the game, including its new streamlined system that keeps the focus on heroes’ actions, the wonderful minis, and more!

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Man... this and Warhammer Quest are going to have a to-the-death brawl for my wallet over the next couple weeks.

Either could be everything I have been dreaming of, or fall on their faces.

Risks in my mind? Massive Darkness not being a persistent, campaign based game, and WHQ just being a simple one-off release with no support for anything outside a one-and-done boxed game.

But if both dodge those.... oh man am I going to be poor.

 MLaw wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Man... this and Warhammer Quest are going to have a to-the-death brawl for my wallet over the next couple weeks.

Either could be everything I have been dreaming of, or fall on their faces.

Risks in my mind? Massive Darkness not being a persistent, campaign based game, and WHQ just being a simple one-off release with no support for anything outside a one-and-done boxed game.

But if both dodge those.... oh man am I going to be poor.

I thought WHQ was already out and was just basically a card game..
Eagerly awaiting pictures and goodies for Massive Darkness though

 MLaw wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Man... this and Warhammer Quest are going to have a to-the-death brawl for my wallet over the next couple weeks.

Either could be everything I have been dreaming of, or fall on their faces.

Risks in my mind? Massive Darkness not being a persistent, campaign based game, and WHQ just being a simple one-off release with no support for anything outside a one-and-done boxed game.

But if both dodge those.... oh man am I going to be poor.

I thought WHQ was already out and was just basically a card game..
Eagerly awaiting pictures and goodies for Massive Darkness though

The game is a modern-style Dungeon Crawl game. It will have all the popular fantasy tropes in terms of monsters. Goblins, Demons, Spiders, Kobolds, and on and on. There is a massive drive toward coming out with lots of different monsters. That will increase the replayability of the game, as each time you can play through with different monsters that you will fight. You can tailor-make your game to what you want to fight. There is no “GM-Player” required. It’s entirely cooperative. During the course of the game, your character will progress not only during the game, but also during the entire campaign system.

Monsters are spawned when you encounter new rooms. Also, there are event cards that can also create wandering monsters. Monsters generally move 2x and then they will make an attack (if they have something to attack).

As you would expect from a Guillotine Games/CMON product, you can expect plenty of awesomely-sculpted miniatures. You can get a bit of a look at them here.

Heroes each come with a unique special skill. From there you add in a Class Skill. You can match heroes with any class you want. While there might be a particular class that a character might favor, that doesn’t actually limit you. So again, replayability comes from switching heroes with classes in almost limitless ways. Classes combine skills with unique signature moves. As you play further into the campaign, your skill tree also grows, giving you branching options for how you want your character to progress.

But it’s not just skills you’ll amass as you kill off enemies. You also get loot! There’s weapons of all types: melee, ranged, consumable, and even magic items. Didn’t get exactly what you want? Or maybe an old weapon isn’t doing what you need it to anymore? You’ll be able to transmute them into more powerful ones.

Monsters come in the form of bosses leading masses of minions. There’s also enemy agents who can call in reinforcements. Maybe you’ll run across a random wandering monster as well! Guardians will carry powerful pieces of treasure, and they know how to use ’em! Thankfully, fighting against them, abilities and equipment stack together. Both the attacks and defense part of an attack is done with a single die roll. There are different attack and defense dice that you will roll together. Add up your attack totals vs. the defense totals and see what happens. There’s a limit of 12 dice for a die roll, since there are 3 of each type of 4 dice (2 attack, 2 defense) Special enhancements on items or characters are triggered by rolling certain symbols on the dice.

The game board creates a dynamic world. There’s Shadow Areas on tiles that the heroes can use to their advantage. Heroes can use those spots as mid-game “hiding spots.” They can hide from wandering patrols. They can avoid certain attacks. They can even use those spots as launching-off points for their own surprise attacks. Like with Zombicide before it, just charging in headlong into the enemies will result in you more-than-likely losing the game and your characters dying (though there are a couple resurrection methods). This brings a deep tactical, and cooperative portion for the game. You must work together.

The molds for the miniatures are already in production. As such, there’s a real push to getting the game out and on time in a quick fashion.

They have a brand-new, prototype version of the game here. I snapped a few photos. I hope you enjoy.

There’s a lot of really cool things in store for this game. Stay tuned for more previews and info as we get closer to the Kickstarter launch date.

Final preview tidbit: They’re working on Zombicide: Black Plague Season 2. But they are not currently working on regular Zombicide Season 4.