Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 greatbigtree wrote:
I would like to see less emphasis on creating “long term” damage, and more focus on playing the ball. My experience is that the best long-term strategy for non elf / skaven teams (most teams) is to bash and, I almost forgot, 2 guys to play the ball.

To me, that seems to just be the playstyle that the majority of players have decided is "correct." And maybe they're right, but I've had a lot of success with other builds. When I play lizardmen, for instance, I've been known to start with only 3 sauruses, 3 re-rolls, and 9 skinks. Skinks are crazy fast, and can pull off plays nobody else can. They're also more resilient than you'd expect, thanks to dodge. Obviously Tackle is a huge problem for this style, but the only team that starts with much Tackle (dwarves) are extremely slow, so I can often just stay completely out of their threat range with most of my players.

Experiment with unconventional ways to play; you might surprise some people.

I don’t mean to be down on that plan, but in my experience, Linemen and Blockers generally take Block followed by Tackle.

I’ve played more traditional Lizzies with lots of Saurus and I *still* go through skinks like crazy, because Tackle gets taken to deal with them. That’s been my experience, anyhow. I tend to play long-term leagues, where we run into the “spiraling expenses” rules. By that point, tackle is widespread and my skinks *without* block are just hiding behind the big guys.

The worst experience I’ve had was a league where the Dwarf player had some lucky early games and got skills on like all his Linemen and they all picked up Guard. It was the absolute least fun thing to play into.

 AduroT wrote:
The worst experience I’ve had was a league where the Dwarf player had some lucky early games and got skills on like all his Linemen and they all picked up Guard. It was the absolute least fun thing to play into.

Happens in most leagues where there are crunchy teams like skaven, goblins, halflings and even skink heavy Lizardmen teams. It’s the first skill I put on my Dwarf linemen.

Dwarf Linemen also start with two skills that make squishier teams sad baseline. Their linemen are more skilled than most other teams blitzers.

Most other teams linemens will pick block or wrestle first, of course. Maybe one of them will get kick to get more choice where the ball goes.

Everybody saw they put these up for made to order right?

That treeman is as awful as the hotpot is amazing.

Hotpot was released in 1992 and goes for silly money on eBay. So glad they’ve made it available again. Time to grab 2-3 for my oldhammer empire army...

I almost feel like I should “report” that generic treeman picture. At this moment, I can’t think of a model I’d be more ashamed to have released to the public. Dick-nose doesn’t look so bad anymore, and I’d never use *that* model.

It’s less of a Treeman and more of a Firewoodman.

Have they rebased that 25-year-old hotpot, or just photoshopped it onto round bases?

Photoshopped by the looks.


I want to like the old treeman. But I also really want to dislike it. I'm stuck in an uncomfortable spot between "yay nostalgia and hrmm dated sculpt"

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/20/blood-bowl-on-hard-modegw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-2/

Artwork Treemen didn't look that bad.



It's resin, not plastic, so I don't understand why they didn't follow this.

The generic one might look more like that. The one we’ve got atm is a character (or the old made to order one).

 Snrub wrote:
Photoshopped by the looks.


I want to like the old treeman. But I also really want to dislike it. I'm stuck in an uncomfortable spot between "yay nostalgia and hrmm dated sculpt"

That one's not old enough to get nostalgic about. Trish Carden's early 90s Marauder treemen, though ...

I guess the 'treeman' is usable as some kind of wooden 'robot' or golem. Just place a halfling (or pet squirrel...) on top to operate some (also wooden) levers. Wouldn't use it for Wood Elves though.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

Dice used to be £7, why the increase!?

 Original Timmy wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

Dice used to be £7, why the increase!?

Maybe they got McDonald’s Supersized

I wasn’t going to get the halfling team, but then I saw the sandwich ball.

If we get a plastic tree man with a birds nest in its mouth or on it I would definitely consider buying it. Could use it for wood elves and halflings, I like dual purpose models like that. Unfortunately GW pressures me hard to buy the pitch/dice/cards and crap because all that stuff is limited. I failed to get the elven union pitch in time, so tired of the limited stuff.

Rough idea when Wood Elves would arrive?

They don't even have a full team picture.

Come back in 3 months. Or maybe they'll show it at the UK expo this month.

The halflings come on 3 different little sprues, first time they've done that with a BB team so far? Kinda more irked they couldn't fit a tree man in there now, since this time they weren't restricted to a single sprue doubled.

John D Law wrote:
Everybody saw they put these up for made to order right?

That Treeman must of been released as a joke. It's old Nagash level bad.

 Thargrim wrote:
The halflings come on 3 different little sprues, first time they've done that with a BB team so far? Kinda more irked they couldn't fit a tree man in there now, since this time they weren't restricted to a single sprue doubled.

There are HUGE space in those sprue that could have been extra bits/ body. They just can't afford to give you 2 of this sprue with only 1 token, 1 turn mark, so you have extra space for more bits/player, they're halfling, they need more than 12 guys . They want you to buy 2 box just to get 1-3 more guys for the team....

The fact that the Champions of Death have 14 models while Halflings and Gobbos have 12 will never NOT be downright stupid.

I suspect the halflings might get a supplement pack with two each of their new positions (Blocker-lite and Catcher I believe?)

Why? You already get two of each positionals in the box.

They need to release a treeman in order to actually have the team playable, even for the worst team in Blood Bowl!

 Crazyterran wrote:
Why? You already get two of each positionals in the box.

They need to release a treeman in order to actually have the team playable, even for the worst team in Blood Bowl!

You're right. I thought the box was just 12 regular halflings. Didn't realize some of them is supposed to represent new positions