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Those dwarves look a little big for LotR scale. Hopefully it's just a trick of the camera or maybe it's just me.

I have a considerable collection of LOTR models, it was the first miniature game I ever got into and got into painting. Just kind of got it for he models not do much for the game....but I've grown up since then and now it's both!

I have the moria set wig the rulebook, fair sized lot of isengard, fair sized lot of kingdoms of men plus more moria stuff!

You can get the rulebook for lotrsbg on eBay for ~$20-40 and you can get army lots fairly cheap sometimes too!
The thing I find about it is people on eBay either ask for outrageous amount of money for models ot they are dirt cheap, nothing in between. Saw a nazgul for $200 unpainted unopened...when I can buy it on GW website for $75 idk what they are thinking haha

I used to play war of the ring with my gondorians only got 1 company and a the old metal captain and banner bearer left now so hopefully they bring back war of the ring too

 Ghaz wrote:
Saw the following on The One Ring:

First from Rob on the GBHL Facebook group:

[i]"New releases every single month. This will be multiple kits. Some old, some new.

Most new kits will be coming in 'autumn'. Anytime they don't have something new, they will supplement it with a reissue.

Most reissued models will come in whatever they were last cast in. So most will be metal or finecast.

New models will be in forge world resin, as will some old. Eventual aim is for all to be in forge world resin, except the plastics.

Splendid news! Sounds like they're making a real commitment not just to keeping the game hanging on but to actively rebuilding it. The only part that worries me slightly is the FW thing, if they are sold through GW stores/made available to retailers then that's all good, but if they're going to want us paying FW's ridiculous shipping charges on every order then no way!

Speaking of which, new laketown scenery will be plastic. It's an exception to the rule as it was already so close to being ready for plastic tooling. They hope to release around the end of the year.

New book will be hardback (working title is "There and Back Again"), a supplement to go alongside your hardback hobbit rulebook. It will contain all the rules from DoS and BotFA, as well as new stuff. 30 scenarios will be featured.

Iron Hill Dwarves will be among the first new releases in a few months time. They are still waiting for approval. In the game, Dain is a hardnut who makes nearby dwarves better. He can headbutt models to the ground if he doesn't sound them. The ballista has an arrow stopping move, great denial rules and something totally fresh for the game. The iron hill dwarves are able to form a shield wall (4 dwarves or more in base contact) thus getting a +1 for Defense, so they will be Defense 8.

There were references in Keith's book for the Gundabad Orc Berserkers as well as Thranduil on Elk. There was also a render for a rather tasty looking mace that looked to me like the one Khâmul the Easterling carries in the Dol Guldur scenes.

This all sounds splendid, so glad they actually plan to give the 'Ol' Twiddly Diddlies' as Dain calls them the ability to counter shooting, that is not something currently in the game and should help set these guys apart...

Suspiciously absent are the Dwarven Ram Riders, but they've got to be in the pipeline given what's on show here!

So very many good things coming up for the SBG.

Price will be the deciding factor for me though.

Made those ruins last night. £18 was very reasonable.

Not sure whether it has been noted already (Didn't look through 9 pages):

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/the-the-hobbit-the-battle-of-five-armies-doubles-campaign-weekend-towards-the-lonely-mountain/

With narrative gaming at it’s heart, and with more than a few twists and turns thrown in for good measure, this will be unlike anything we have run for this system before; trust us when we say you don’t want to miss it. Will you be there on the most dreadful of days, when the terrible battle of the Age is fought? It’s time to choose your allegiance, mount up and ride to war. Du Bekâr!

Ruins look good. I fear another order to GW is going to have to go in once they are back on sale!

 Slinky wrote:
Ruins look good. I fear another order to GW is going to have to go in once they are back on sale!

Stupid question. GW or Forge World when they go on sale?

Good point - Hopefully GW to avoid FW's horrid shipping pricing!

They're the plastic OOP, and I'm assuming soon-to-be-reissued, Osgiliath Ruins, aren't they?

Yep, £18 is a pretty nice price.

 Mymearan wrote:
Yep, £18 is a pretty nice price.

So that is $36 Canadian. I think that can be a fair price and I would buy it if my FLGS can order it in. Will not buy from Forge World, (like someone said above, the insane shipping prices). Hell I can use it for AoS and 40K as well as LotR/The Hobbit.

Now for a new topic. Would you rather have the name Lord of the Rings, or The Hobbit? I am surprised that GW is keeping the name The Hobbit. You would think GW would want to wash away the Taint of The Hobbit just like they did with WFB. Go back to something that worked and made them lots of money. Maybe they can only use The Hobbit name with the contract they have with New Line Cinema (if it's them) when they renewed till 2020. (I think it was 2020 could be wrong on that date.)

Davor wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
Yep, £18 is a pretty nice price.

So that is $36 Canadian. I think that can be a fair price and I would buy it if my FLGS can order it in. Will not buy from Forge World, (like someone said above, the insane shipping prices). Hell I can use it for AoS and 40K as well as LotR/The Hobbit.

Now for a new topic. Would you rather have the name Lord of the Rings, or The Hobbit? I am surprised that GW is keeping the name The Hobbit. You would think GW would want to wash away the Taint of The Hobbit just like they did with WFB. Go back to something that worked and made them lots of money. Maybe they can only use The Hobbit name with the contract they have with New Line Cinema (if it's them) when they renewed till 2020. (I think it was 2020 could be wrong on that date.)

I saw a logo that said 'Middle Earth strategy battle game' with 'The Hobbit' and 'Lord of the Rings' underneath (iirc). So I think it'll be called Middle Earth sbg. The Hobbit book is called that because its all the hobbit expansions in one book.

The book that was shown at the Festival (forgot the name) Said The Hobbit:There and Back Again. I thought that was what the new rule book was going to be called.

I guess I could have been wrong.


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 ImAGeek wrote:
From FB, wip:

Here it is. So is this something different?

I love those ruins! I missed out on them when they went OOP but I'm so glad they're coming back!! I look forward to being able to do an Osgiliath themed table set!

Now if they would just re-release Minas Tirith and Helm's Deep....

As previously reported,
New book will be hardback (working title is "There and Back Again"), a supplement to go alongside your hardback hobbit rulebook. It will contain all the rules from DoS and BotFA, as well as new stuff. 30 scenarios will be featured.

It is the direct supplement to the Hobbit An Unexpected Journey main rulebook, covering all the armies, units, scenarios, rules, etc, of the Desolation of Smaug and Battle of Five Armies films - effectively replacing the now out of print original release of Desolation of Smaug book and unerwhelming Battle of Five Armies PDF.

Davor wrote:
The book that was shown at the Festival (forgot the name) Said The Hobbit:There and Back Again. I thought that was what the new rule book was going to be called.

I guess I could have been wrong.


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 ImAGeek wrote:
From FB, wip:

Here it is. So is this something different?

That's all the rules from the Hobbit expansions including new stuff (Such as Dain and the Iron Hills dwarfs). I don't think its the actual rulebook (although I guess it might have the rules as well), more like a sourcebook collection for all the hobbit stuff.

Apparently that book will basically be a Hobbit mega-sourcebook covering the 3 films/the book, compiling scenarios, profiles, army lists and such.

The Hobbit motion picture trilogy strategy battle game, or THMPTSBG for short.

The name that just rolls of the tongue :p

 Manchu wrote:
News is trickling out of Nottingham about Adam Troke's "state of the game" presentation at Throne of Skulls. It seems like the game may be rebranded as "Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game." One attendee on Facebook posted:

Feel gutted for the people who didn't get to come to ToS and hear from Adam Troke. Fantastic stuff he had to say, not sure exactly what we are and aren't aloud to post but needless to say the hobby is safe with Adam and we are getting NEW stuff guaranteed!

Another poster has said there was mentioned of reissuing OOP models.

And from another poster:

What adam said though is he wants us to email them and tell him what we want to see come back and also what we want new.

Send in photos of our painted models and literally support our Middle Earth hobby! Without the support we have shown this hobby in recent years he literally couldn't have got the energy from GW put back in!

And again:

Middle Earth SBG. New stuff and Old stuff to be released! There's your headline from me.

Does this (in the red) mean they want to see out painted and based armies? I have a few of them

 Paradigm wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

Weird that the book isn't branded "Middle Earth SBG" as that is supposed to be the name going forward.

It does say it's in progress, the decision to rebrand might have been a recent one that hasn't made it to the mockups yet. Looks like a lovely chunky book, though, with any luck it'll be a compendium a la the old Big Blue Book that has everything in, LotR and Hobbit... there's enough room in there, I reckon.

From some other rumors I've seen (and the cover text), I suspect this is just a repackaging of the current Hobbit rulebook with the two movie supplements.

Darn! I was ninja'd.

LotR receiving official support from GW is great news.

The new dwarves look amazing and I want them.

But... all new releases made by forgeworld? I love their stuff. Obvious quality sculpting. But this saddens me since it will make this niche product even more niche. It translates to life support for the game.

I am having difficulty seeing the wisdom here. If they want the game to succeed, it needs to be readily available in shops, and given more than lackluster model support. That lack of support is what really killed the game, not the hobbits ridiculous prices.

If they had supported WotR, and that game certainly did reinvigorate the cash flow of LotR license for sometime, we wouldn't have gotten to this place.

I just fear that placement in forgeworld is not going to be enough to reinvigorate interest in the line enough to justify the renewal.

I say this as a person who owns at least eight thousand dollars worth of LotR models (this price was preWotR price increase too) and would love to see both the SBG and WotR see more frequent play everywhere.

As that person, and one who loves the dwarves, I won't be buying from FW. That prospect is as bleak as the end of the third age.

One question though.
How is it possible to use that insanely huge dwarfballista in SBG? I could see that in WotR, and half hoped support for that would continue. I know large engines of war were used before in SBG, but they make little sense compared to their use in WotR.

And to reply to the comment way earlier in the thread about WotR being as broken as SBG is good, poppycock and balderdash.
WotR was brilliant too, it just needed fairly minor rule revisions, much as we saw happen to the first iteration of SBG (which in truth was far worse than the first oteration of WotR).

In the extended edition of BotFA, the Dwarf ballista does not work quite how one would expect...

EE Spoilers

 Hellfury wrote:
LotR receiving official support from GW is great news.

The new dwarves look amazing and I want them.

But... all new releases made by forgeworld? I love their stuff. Obvious quality sculpting. But this saddens me since it will make this niche product even more niche. It translates to life support for the game.
.

Something to remember... they said models would return in the last material they were cast in, so plastic kits will continue to be plastic, metals will return in metal, etc.... NEW casting going to Forgeworld to finish some last elements that never got made doesn't mean stores wouldn't be able to stock the book, existing plastic kits, etc... Plenty exists if it was produced in volume again, to give new players fun options and spark interest.

Forgeworld is cheaper than Finecast, don't forget. We'll probably see a price drop on infantry models.

Finecast Hobbit infantry are $8.33 per model; FW is about $6 per model.


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 mdauben wrote:
From some other rumors I've seen (and the cover text), I suspect this is just a repackaging of the current Hobbit rulebook with the two movie supplements.

No. Redone, with 30 new scenarios, and new army lists to cover all the armies and units that were never produced. It replaces and upgrades and updates the out-of-print Desolation of Smaug sourcebook and the Battle of Five Armies PDF.

Man I really can't wait for this, I will buy all the things.

Based on that pic with multiple Lake Town houses, it would appear that the kit is somewhat modular. Anyone have a sense either way?

 Fugazi wrote:
Based on that pic with multiple Lake Town houses, it would appear that the kit is somewhat modular. Anyone have a sense either way?

From what I understand, those were custom made by the studio. The specific Lake-town house on display is the 3-d printed prototype of the plastic kit (and yes, includes the outhouse, boat, and docks/planks). The reason they are going to do it in plastic is because it was already so far along in production that they are going ahead and finishing it up.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 Hellfury wrote:
LotR receiving official support from GW is great news.

The new dwarves look amazing and I want them.

But... all new releases made by forgeworld? I love their stuff. Obvious quality sculpting. But this saddens me since it will make this niche product even more niche. It translates to life support for the game.
.

Something to remember... they said models would return in the last material they were cast in, so plastic kits will continue to be plastic, metals will return in metal, etc.... NEW casting going to Forgeworld to finish some last elements that never got made doesn't mean stores wouldn't be able to stock the book, existing plastic kits, etc... Plenty exists if it was produced in volume again, to give new players fun options and spark interest.

They would return to the material they were LAST cast in.
Not many metal models were left to look forward to.

But then again, there were a lot of models that were out of production by the time the failcrap business be an, so there is hope in that loop hole for a few assorted old models. Not sure what consolation that is however since the out of production models weren't really major needs.