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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 15:03:51
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Major
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I'll see about the price when they make a model worth the cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 17:39:15
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mark 3 incoming.
And that there is a game changer. Can't wait!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 17:47:48
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!
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Is this for real? My giant PP collection weeps for joy if this is the case.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 17:54:40
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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How is that a game changer?
Does it affect the prices of their models? Automatically Appended Next Post:
Which one is the colossal? Honestly, none of them really seem like great prices for the minis, except maybe for Deneghra...which is restic? The first one is the size of the Grind Warjacks, right? I guess the price isn't too bad for it, but it doesn't strike me as a very exciting miniature. More SM Dreadnaught than, say, Wraithlord.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 18:17:36
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!
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The first model is on a 50mm base. It's significantly beefier than a Grind model. The rest are on 120mm bases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 19:25:40
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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keezus wrote:
Is this for real? My giant PP collection weeps for joy if this is the case.
Start weeping mate.
http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/letting-the-jack-out-of-the-bag-and-why-chinese-food-will-never-be-the-s
http://privateerpress.com/press-releases/privateer-press-announces-all-new-editions-of-warmachine-and-hordes
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
How is that a game changer?
Does it affect the prices of their models?
Well, it's changing the game, so technically, it is a game changer. It'll be free to download.
If it sorts out some of the issues in the game, which is likely, then the perceived value for the game and it's models may increase for people. In game value and playability is partly relevant in terms of pricing people out of a game or not. And also, new starter sets.  apparently pretty good value!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 20:20:45
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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I like the look of that plastic Gator, much better than the old metal. I might pick one up (I have an unassembled Blindwater army.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 20:27:01
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Da Boss wrote:I like the look of that plastic Gator, much better than the old metal. I might pick one up (I have an unassembled Blindwater army.)
I agree, it's a huge improvement. It is still PVC though if that's an issue for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 21:32:18
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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keezus wrote:The first model is on a 50mm base. It's significantly beefier than a Grind model. The rest are on 120mm bases.
Then it does seem like a better deal. The large ones are very large, but not very compelling to me. The Cryx one looks exciting in a Dark Crystal meets the Matrix kind of a way, but the price is so high that I'm just not willing to take the "risk".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 21:38:09
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: keezus wrote:The first model is on a 50mm base. It's significantly beefier than a Grind model. The rest are on 120mm bases.
Then it does seem like a better deal. The large ones are very large, but not very compelling to me. The Cryx one looks exciting in a Dark Crystal meets the Matrix kind of a way, but the price is so high that I'm just not willing to take the "risk".
What risk on the Cryx one?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 23:08:51
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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That I will (not) enjoy assembling it, have a plethora of usable bits, and/or want to look at it again. For $105, the model had better give me a modeling rush that lasts for days and fill me with paternal pride whenever I pass it's display plinth.
I wouldn't even pay $105 for the Kingdom Death Dragon King, and that one whispers to me in my sleep, my troubled, feverish sleep.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 01:16:22
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Having assembled one of the 50mm plastic jacks all I can say is it is a joy to put together and every fits perfectly.
As for Mk3 incoming, all I had to say about that was this:
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 01:53:01
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Any word on a Cryx or Menoth HIPS Warjack? Those have the most visual appeal to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 03:07:01
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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No idea when the menoth or cryx one are coming out. It's pretty ridiculous actually, considering the rules for them came out in 2014, back in mk2 and by the time mk3 comes out, we still wouldn't have gotten them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 12:44:52
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Umber Guard
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Yes.
Old battle box:
MSRP $50 for 2 large-based models, 1 small-based model, cards, fluff book for the faction, and rules
New battle box:
MSRP $40 for 2 large-based models, 1 small-based model, cards, rules, battlemap, paper terrain, a shoddy-looking ruler, dice and tokens.
These are of course to get people into the game an are likely not making them much profit, but it is still a significantly better deal than before. It is the same cost as the X-Wing Starter set. I choose Khador because the new and old are quite similar, only swapping out 1 warjack of the same size and the warcaster.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 12:52:55
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Kaptajn Congoboy wrote:
Yes.
Old battle box:
MSRP $50 for 2 large-based models, 1 small-based model, cards, fluff book for the faction, and rules
New battle box:
MSRP $40 for 2 large-based models, 1 small-based model, cards, rules, battlemap, paper terrain, a shoddy-looking ruler, dice and tokens.
These are of course to get people into the game an are likely not making them much profit, but it is still a significantly better deal than before. It is the same cost as the X-Wing Starter set. I choose Khador because the new and old are quite similar, only swapping out 1 warjack of the same size and the warcaster.
That new caster for Khador is super snazzy looking too. They've certainly managed to make me completely forget the new policy with this news.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 13:16:15
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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DrNo172000 wrote:
That new caster for Khador is super snazzy looking too. They've certainly managed to completely forget the new policy with this news.
Kommander Goat is awesome. He's an Iron Fang caster so I'm happy whatever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 15:28:20
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Fixture of Dakka
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To answer the OP... no, PP did not price themselves out of my market recently. They did it from the very beginning.
Granted, had I not been heavily invested in WFB at that point it might have been different, but I can't afford to invest in TWO expensive (for mini games) hobbies if I hope to retire someday.
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CHAOS! PANIC! DISORDER!
My job here is done. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 21:51:23
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Mutating Changebringer
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So, as they say, when the facts change, my opinions also change: with the announcement of Mk.III, I am cautiously optimistic that many of the things I noted as complaints in this thread will be addressed. For one thing, my understanding is that the new battle boxes are not only going to be cheaper, but include more stuff. I have no idea why they are being shown with colored plastic parts, but we can only hope that this represents a move from PVC to HIPS (hope springs eternal).
Example;
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 22:37:13
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Sergeant
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It's been confirmed on Privateer's forum that they are colored PVC and not good styrene plastic. EDIT - Found it: They are the same PVC plastic we have been using for the Mk II Battlegroup boxes and numerous other models for years. http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?248833-Mk-III-Battlegroup-minis-what-are-they-made-of&p=3464457#post3464457
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 23:10:08
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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In HIPS, for $40, I'd have picked up most of them. In PVC, only one or two of them appeal to me, although deep discounts could make a difference. Seeing the Menoth and Cryx PVC figures brought back some unpleasant memories. Automatically Appended Next Post: Screw it, definitely getting that Everblight starter next November.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/13 01:45:10
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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PP has issues with their HIPS factory I think. They only seem to come out with 1 HIPS model per year, which is really slow considering we've been waiting for 4 of them ever since they were announced in 2014, of which we've only gotten 2 so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/13 02:01:53
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Mutating Changebringer
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Ugh. Well, nothing like taking the best possible opportunity to improve your product and saying... "Nope!"
Ah, PVC, boldly moving into the middling zone of quality.
The relaunch just took a massive hit on my scale of priorities.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/13 02:10:31
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Same here, sadly.
I've always really wanted to get into Warmachine but...I never quite manage to get interested enough, for a variety of reasons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/13 02:22:57
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ah PVC, will wait for the reviews except beast of war who will say it look awesome like every review video
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/13 02:35:04
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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I for one might get a ret starter for the rules don't really need more models unless point costs changed a lot
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2000 6000 with Reaver Titan guard 2k
2500 (imperial force)
2500 (trimming down in 8th)
TS 30k at 5k points
Yes I have a problem
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/13 03:49:34
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Pyre Troll
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i'm hoping i'll be able to find the castors for my armies for cheap on ebay after these hit and people break them up
(as for the pricing, my warmahordes purchases are fairly infrequent anyway, so i don't see a huge change, other then perhaps hitting up ebay first rather then picking up new more often then now)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/13 18:46:41
Subject: Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Using Object Source Lighting
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The moment they started charging non-PVC prices for PVC was the beginning of the end for me. This is just one more nail in the coffin for my purchase from them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/13 18:51:21
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In terms of reselling, how well do the old metal models hold up value-wise? I have Cryx and Menoth armies from MKI and early, early MKII. Are those figures worthless due to updates or are they sought after since they aren't the PVC material PP is fond of?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/15 17:14:48
Subject: Re:Has Privateer Press Priced Their Minis Out of Your Market?
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Wraith
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DarkTraveler777 wrote:In terms of reselling, how well do the old metal models hold up value-wise? I have Cryx and Menoth armies from MKI and early, early MKII. Are those figures worthless due to updates or are they sought after since they aren't the PVC material PP is fond of?
Metal is usually fine, provided PP haven't released a new sculpt of the unit/solo/caster that either
A. has a better pose
B. is multi-part
C. In HIPS
60% of retail is usually the best you can expect. Unpainted or primed seem to be worth more unless we're talking gold demon quality.
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