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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/09 23:41:19
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Ha,Ha, Ha; 25 years ago........
Facial Planes:
We're going to experiment with this visor as I don't have an overhead projection so I made the angle gussets flexible until I see how the 'face shapes up.
http://i.imgur.com/9ysjqn4.jpg
That way I can make the minimal adjustments required for an approximation of the artist's intent.
http://i.imgur.com/Qc99a8q.jpg
Note the strips in the foreground. The one with the heavy pencil line glues to the inner surface of the visor. It is slightly scored so it acts as a hinged gusset. It can sustain a minimum of flexing before fatiguing the same as the visor plate. Once I am satisfied with the position of the visor planes I'll reinforce the the back side of the visor to hold the shape.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/10 02:00:40
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Well any failed attempts will make awesome 80s party glasses
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/10 15:30:19
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Raising the Ears:
When I was a kid going to the barber was called, "having your ears lowered." Well in this case the operative word is raised. and bring the ears forward and shorten the helmet.
BTW after having been to the barber, you had "White walls."
http://i.imgur.com/AeNn6yB.jpg
Anyway this side view projection shows I need to cut the helmet a minimum of 6 MM (one quarter inch) on each side and shorten the length almost half an inch (13,0 MM) which necessitates re-positioning the spear points.
http://i.imgur.com/eNjbnNv.jpg
Or I may just go with three after the one in the forehead.
http://i.imgur.com/8stjVq5.jpg
The close up also doesn't do it for me; Fah!
http://i.imgur.com/xa0CkQU.jpg
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/10 16:29:04
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Great work, reminds me of the "Gladiator" helmet from the film.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/11 01:15:29
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Fun and games  the level of detail you go into never fails to amaze me. Watching this face come together is fun to watch.
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"Sanctified with Dynamite"
Space Marine Dreadnought Project here
Astral Claws Terminators here |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/11 21:31:51
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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Looks a lot like Russel Crow's helmet from gladiator - to me, at least. It might be me, but shouldn't the visor be curves for the most part, instead of angled? The only hard angles I see on the drawing are the ones on the sides
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/11 23:23:25
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate
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Wow! I like the look of the scalloped crest. Great detail so far on the head.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/12 13:40:49
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Family Portrait: Who's your Daddy? I accomplished a whirlwind revamp of the Command Deck aka the 'Head' shortening the rear overhang (Wait, he is talking about the head of this beastie not the loo???) but I did leave the cock's comb alone. (he is talking about the loo!) Seen here along side my Warlord to give a proper scale. http://i.imgur.com/NvG8rtI.jpg And a closeup. http://i.imgur.com/tZgfEjR.jpg More images to come............
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/04/12 13:44:00
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/12 14:59:57
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Conniving Informer
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That thing is going to be massive when the lower part of the mask is added!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/12 19:27:03
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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The warlords face now looks like he's grumpy since he won't be the "big kid" for much longer
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/12 19:44:39
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Naaahhh! that's just his badass face.
Whoops:
Seems I may have miscalculated on the size of the Titan. That face is huge compared to the Warlord. Of course I had planned upwards of 36 inches ( 0.9144 meters )but I had hoped to keep it under 33 inches (0.8382 meters ) just so it didn't relegate my Warlord to a minor player. This may not be the case now.
http://i.imgur.com/928kBV1.jpg
The front view in my estimation is spot on and I shall proceed with the styrene version and make the cutouts on the basic structure. Once I am satisfied with the overall size relationship of the various parts of the 'face' I'll make the details.
http://i.imgur.com/MBwgT4X.jpg
The side view doesn't look quite right as there is too much forward projection with the cardboard template. When rendered in styrene wot the extra cheek plates added all will line up as it is supposed to......
At least that is my expectation.
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/12 21:17:59
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Now that looks Even better  , i was worried that it might be a bit on the small side before, but that worry has been stomped on.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/12 21:34:25
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Thanks,
Once the 'head' is bulked up with the detail it will be twice the size of the Warlord head.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/12 23:04:59
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Your skills have really "gone to your head"
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/13 06:31:36
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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Lookinjg good. From the pics, an emperor class titan always seemed to have a proportionally bigger head than the warlord, doesn't it?
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/17 03:20:32
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Especially looking at something like this I think the head looks perfect! Looking Great!
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"Sanctified with Dynamite"
Space Marine Dreadnought Project here
Astral Claws Terminators here |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/17 15:33:24
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Chin Guard Detail:
Back from Easter holiday; before I left I started the detail of the chin guard because I might have to put slots in the backing as well as the decorative spear shapes. The slots are ready made aligning points so duplicating the spear point is a cinch.
http://i.imgur.com/i8pheXC.jpg
I used a slightly modified tongue depresor to file the pieces to roughly the same shape and each pair is roughly 2 MM longer that the other S M L respectively
http://i.imgur.com/1IMWqXh.jpg
Now that the three pair are rough shaped I can clean up the edges and thin them all down to the finished width.
This model head seems a lot easier than was the Warlord so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/17 15:43:31
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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Easier? I'd imagine your past experiences would help you since you don't have to figure these things out, no?
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/18 02:43:33
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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I'm with CommissarKhaine...with your experience I'm sure some things really DO get easier
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"Sanctified with Dynamite"
Space Marine Dreadnought Project here
Astral Claws Terminators here |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/18 10:10:42
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Experience not withstanding, The helmet, visor and chin guard are substantially easier to build and the new neck made out of PVC tubing and fittings make what was previously a nightmare of innovation virtually child's play. Automatically Appended Next Post: OMG: Seriously this is probably the most gratifying construct I have done in quite some time. http://i.imgur.com/LpUWR8T.jpg Everything is falling into place. http://i.imgur.com/pmnMplO.jpg Even though the chin armour is too far forward (easily remedied) it gives a hint of the majesty to come....... http://i.imgur.com/oeVW0v7.jpg It's still not too late to start following/building along on this construction. I forsee this will be quite something when finished. :blush:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/18 14:42:20
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Conniving Informer
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I wonder if the fortress thingy on top of the titan would be large enough to be used as a battleboard for killteam missions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/18 15:07:31
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
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Oestergaard - I bet it will totally be big enough!
Head looks ace so far!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/18 16:48:48
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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Experience not withstanding, The helmet, visor and chin guard are substantially easier to build and the new neck made out of PVC tubing and fittings make what was previously a nightmare of innovation virtually child's play.
Out of curiosity: if you'd rebuild the warlord now, would you use the same techniques as the ones you're using for the emperor? Or wouldn't these work out as well?
Head is looking great!
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/18 16:51:18
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Oestergaard wrote:I wonder if the fortress thingy on top of the titan would be large enough to be used as a battleboard for killteam missions? 
Probably for CC missions Automatically Appended Next Post: CommissarKhaine wrote:Experience not withstanding, The helmet, visor and chin guard are substantially easier to build and the new neck made out of PVC tubing and fittings make what was previously a nightmare of innovation virtually child's play.
Out of curiosity: if you'd rebuild the warlord now, would you use the same techniques as the ones you're using for the emperor? Or wouldn't these work out as well?
Head is looking great!
Probably, I made the Warlord's connecting bridge to the cockpit square and had no end of design issues giving it all the movement capability it has. this round neck is just the ticket.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/18 16:55:41
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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See? Your experience is helping you! :p. Also, that info is tucked away in case I ever build up the courage to get started on a big guy!
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/22 20:00:52
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Then A Miracle Happened:
But no, it didn't.... I was working without checking on the so far completed 'Skull' (well that's what it looks like to me) and I got away from the proper relative sizes. and so far it looks okay. The cheek armour under the visor seems about right especially since the large round canisters under the eye sockets still need to be added.
http://i.imgur.com/kdIR6Gf.jpg
I still have to pare down the nose and chin dart embellishments and I'm having difficulty reconciling the extra wide vertical strip under the nose; it looks too wide to me on the skull but less so on the 2D image. I like it thinner as it give the lower face a more refined look.
http://i.imgur.com/vUrJCti.jpg
I'm going to have to bit the bullet and be less slavish to the prototype image and do what my instinct tells me looks best.....
So here is today's effort just tack glue in place temporarily.
http://i.imgur.com/yUS4JfD.jpg
and I'm already not liking the chin dart (What was I thinking???) but the roughed in nose seems pretty close to what I looking for.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/22 21:26:45
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Good work, Blacky.
I find that going with the flow is always better with scratch-building.
You can have all the designs in the world, measured to perfection. But a creation will always have a mind of it's own and will progress in it's own direction. It's much less stressful and gives better results to not try to strictly stick to the original plan.
What looks good on paper (or computer screen) doesn't always translate to what looks good in 3D. Tweaks are always needed.
Flow like water, Bend like bamboo, hit like a rock... er... adapt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/23 22:01:12
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Space Marine regalia: Sorry, I got 'way too ahead of myself last night and in a fit of inspiration came up with the resolution to the nose and chin gewgaws but also the iron prow boot. First the boot as I don't know what the interior looks like I got the inspiration to make it a solid floor and use the slots for small arms loopholes, http://i.imgur.com/wDcB6Y2.jpg just about enough room for a coupl'a sharpshooters shoulder to shoulder firing down at retreating infantry probably not in http://i.imgur.com/5uE0rpp.jpg The floor is 0.040 inch (1,0 MM) styrene which still needs to be trimmed to size but I still left one side not done so you can see the gusset strips needed to spread the floor. 70,0 MM (2.75 inches). http://i.imgur.com/i71rWhT.jpg Gluing the strip inside first and letting dry for an hour http://i.imgur.com/7oBz3p8.jpg And finally finishing up the nose vents and rebuilding the chin gewgaw. http://i.imgur.com/XhTN3b1.jpg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/23 22:42:27
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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Not sure if you saw this thread - few years old and sadly never finished (or at least not shown here...), but some, possibly, useful techniques in the pages for you?
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/238420.page?userfilterid=2367
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/23 22:55:13
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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No I've not seen it before and there are some definitely interesting ideas here. Too bad the project was never finished. Is the author still active on Dakka? Certain aspects are reminiscent of my own Reaver Project: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/542441.page http://i.imgur.com/i9pRHzr.jpg
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