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2016/05/04 15:43:06
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
Its clips....not magazines. If I ask for a clip you hand me a 30 round mag. If I ask for a magazine you hand me Busty Asian magazine (Dean go to read)
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2016/05/04 17:32:41
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
I guess now would be a good time to be a sword and a shield. Forget guns, medieval weaponry is the manliest way to fight zombies!
A suit of chainmail couldn't hurt either.
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2016/05/04 19:13:09
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
Its clips....not magazines. If I ask for a clip you hand me a 30 round mag. If I ask for a magazine you hand me Busty Asian magazine (Dean go to read)
And if you were to ask me for a clip, I would hand you one of these:
I've been saving up clips since I was 10 or so. I got thousands of the things.
You do not meet the height requirement for Ammo Bearer.
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2016/05/04 19:23:52
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
TheCustomLime wrote: I guess now would be a good time to be a sword and a shield. Forget guns, medieval weaponry is the manliest way to fight zombies!
A suit of chainmail couldn't hurt either.
I cannot imagine that would go well. Slowing you down a lot and more places for them to grab you and pull you down. Seems like a bad idea.
But hey, all I have to do is run faster than the guy in plate..... I mean chain mail.
Well fitted chainmail armor had the weight distributed evenly on your body. If you are in good shape it wouldn't make that much slower. It'd be like running while being 30 pounds fatter.
Back on topic this is really cool. Imagine being the first guy on earth to get rezzed.
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
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2016/05/04 20:36:45
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
TheCustomLime wrote: I guess now would be a good time to be a sword and a shield. Forget guns, medieval weaponry is the manliest way to fight zombies!
A suit of chainmail couldn't hurt either.
No, mere bike leathers will do you. At Home Depot there is a Fiskers "heavy brush" machete for $25. This thing was made for the zombie games. Buy one for the whole family and get matching TShirts with "this aint no democracy. This is a Ricktatorship!"*
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NinthMusketeer wrote: God forbid the sci-fi scenario is real and these people come back as flesh-hungry zombies! Society could not deal with 20 non-contagious zombies!
Best to nuke the site from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
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2016/05/04 21:02:53
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
Got a Katana and the training on how to use it - check.
Got compound bow and fair bit of reusable ammunition and pretty good at using it - check.
Got enough hockey equipment to choke-on for keeping the zombie bites at bay. - check.
Keep it nice and quiet, nothing for any old zombies to find here...
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2016/05/04 21:06:13
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
Talizvar wrote: Got a Katana and the training on how to use it - check.
Got compound bow and fair bit of reusable ammunition and pretty good at using it - check.
Got enough hockey equipment to choke-on for keeping the zombie bites at bay. - check.
Keep it nice and quiet, nothing for any old zombies to find here...
The training to use a katana? Um, pointy end in zombies? don't get me wrong, I love martial arts as much as the next guy, but swords aren't all that complicated.
jreilly89 wrote: The training to use a katana? Um, pointy end in zombies? don't get me wrong, I love martial arts as much as the next guy, but swords aren't all that complicated.
Ummm, not like axe: you do not "hack" you place then slice.
No getting pointy end stuck in target or busting it by no control on the hit.
Mind-you: cutting through the spine will take a fair bit of force.
Plus that was all the fun of fighting others with swords, zombies would be a bit more... direct an attack.
(Kenjutsu and Kendo are a lot of fun).
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2016/05/04 21:35:59
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
jreilly89 wrote: The training to use a katana? Um, pointy end in zombies? don't get me wrong, I love martial arts as much as the next guy, but swords aren't all that complicated.
Ummm, not like axe: you do not "hack" you place then slice.
No getting pointy end stuck in target or busting it by no control on the hit.
Mind-you: cutting through the spine will take a fair bit of force.
Plus that was all the fun of fighting others with swords, zombies would be a bit more... direct an attack.
(Kenjutsu and Kendo are a lot of fun).
Yeahhhhh, no offense, but I'd like to see you try and efficiently take down a zombie with a katana. Nothing personal, I'm sure you have the "training" but zombies aren't like a regular fighter. I think the claymore is the way to go here in terms of dismemberment
TheCustomLime wrote: I guess now would be a good time to be a sword and a shield. Forget guns, medieval weaponry is the manliest way to fight zombies!
A suit of chainmail couldn't hurt either.
I cannot imagine that would go well. Slowing you down a lot and more places for them to grab you and pull you down. Seems like a bad idea.
But hey, all I have to do is run faster than the guy in plate..... I mean chain mail.
Well fitted chainmail armor had the weight distributed evenly on your body. If you are in good shape it wouldn't make that much slower. It'd be like running while being 30 pounds fatter.
Back on topic this is really cool. Imagine being the first guy on earth to get rezzed.
As someone who routinely runs with 30lbs of armor... thanks for the laugh.
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2016/05/04 23:24:40
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
A biotech company in the U.S. has been granted ethical permission by the National Institutes of Health to use 20 brain-dead patients for what is sure to be a highly controversial study: From next year, they plan to stimulate their nervous systems in order to restart the brains. Bioquark is hoping that its part in the groundbreaking ReAnima project will reveal if people can at least partly be brought back from the dead.
It is important to note that at this point, there isn’t much evidence to suggest how genuinely realistic or even serious this endeavor is; however, the panel of experts working on the initiative does include Dr. Calixto Machado, a well-known neurological researcher and a member of the American Academy of Neurology who has written extensively on brain death, and it does appear to have proper approval from the U.S. authorities.
The team will test a combination of therapies on the participants, who have been medically certified as being brain dead and are only kept from decomposing by life support machines. Injecting the brain with stem cells, giving the spinal cord infusions of beneficial chemicals, and nerve stimulation techniques – which have been shown to bring people out of comas – will all be tried out.
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After each therapy has been administered, the team will monitor the brain activity of the participants for several months, hoping to look for signs of neurological reactivation. Their focus will be on the upper spinal cord, which is the lowermost part of the brain stream that controls a person’s cardiorespiratory functions – breathing and a beating heart, essentially.
“To undertake such a complex initiative, we are combining biologic regenerative medicine tools with other existing medical devices typically used for stimulation of the central nervous system, in patients with other severe disorders of consciousness,” said Ira Pastor, the CEO of Bioquark Inc., as reported by the Telegraph. “We hope to see results within the first two to three months.”
The central nervous system is bioelectrochemical, in that it uses biologically manufactured chemicals called neurotransmitters to transmit electrical signals through the body. Stimulating neurons with electrical currents is one thing – even in a coma, the neurons will be able to respond to electrical stimulation – but after brain death, neurons begin to wither away and degenerate, so for any “resurrection” to occur, the team will need to stimulate the regeneration of neurons in these brain-dead folk.
This is presumably where the stem cells come in, which in their most primitive state can differentiate into any cell in the human body. Although there has been plenty of remarkable progress using them to regenerate damaged heart, pancreatic, eye or even brain tissue, for example, there is a long way to go before stem cells can simply be injected into humans, allowing them to regenerate any type of lost cell.
In any case, the trials will begin at Anupam Hospital in Rudrapur, Uttarakhand in India. For this stage, the brain-dead people will be continuously given cocktails of peptides, chemicals that can act as neurotransmitters, along with biweekly injections of stem cells.
“It is a long-term vision of ours that a full recovery in such patients is a possibility, although that is not the focus of this first study,” Pastor added. “But it is a bridge to that eventuality.”
Jokes aside, good luck to'em, hope they manage some form of -- non flesh eating -- breakthrough.
This means that Servitors could become a reality. Next up would be servo-skulls.
And I want a servo-skull.
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2016/05/05 01:31:11
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
jreilly89 wrote: Yeahhhhh, no offense, but I'd like to see you try and efficiently take down a zombie with a katana. Nothing personal, I'm sure you have the "training" but zombies aren't like a regular fighter. I think the claymore is the way to go here in terms of dismemberment
I agree on the effectiveness but you will need arms like Arnold to swing it more than a few times.
Part of the "skill" is consistently hitting the "sweet spot" of the sword in the end 1/3rd on moving targets: it is little more than a knife hitting too late.
Having a target not trying to hit me in the head with another sword would make things easier I suspect.
No offence taken, you should try out the sport, same rude awakening I had with golf: how hard could it be?
But hey, best made plans fall apart when facing zombies.
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2016/05/05 02:33:02
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
jreilly89 wrote: Yeahhhhh, no offense, but I'd like to see you try and efficiently take down a zombie with a katana. Nothing personal, I'm sure you have the "training" but zombies aren't like a regular fighter. I think the claymore is the way to go here in terms of dismemberment
I agree
2016/05/05 04:06:52
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
Zombies are fine, the only reason they ever seem to work in the movies is the military is not even competent enough to tie their shoes in it and they're not in Australia. Once it became clear what was going on I think it'd be quarantined and over in a couple months at most. I say couple of months cause with how the equality movements are going they might start protesting for zombie rights.
n0t_u wrote: Zombies are fine, the only reason they ever seem to work in the movies is the military is not even competent enough to tie their shoes in it and they're not in Australia. Once it became clear what was going on I think it'd be quarantined and over in a couple months at most. I say couple of months cause with how the equality movements are going they might start protesting for zombie rights.
With how aggressive some animal rights groups can be, I don't think it'd be the "equality movement" you'd have to worry about. If they're literally zombified people, I'm sure either a branch of PETA or some similar group would spring up for the ethical treatment of zombies.
jreilly89 wrote: Ever notice how all zombie movies start with scientists mucking about? It's never crazy witch doctors or Armageddon. 28 Days Later, Reanimator, etc. It's always damned scientists trying to play God!
That's usually because the people writing the scripts are burbling morons who get startled and confused by fire, ie English majors
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2016/05/05 11:48:07
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
n0t_u wrote: Zombies are fine, the only reason they ever seem to work in the movies is the military is not even competent enough to tie their shoes in it and they're not in Australia. Once it became clear what was going on I think it'd be quarantined and over in a couple months at most. I say couple of months cause with how the equality movements are going they might start protesting for zombie rights.
With how aggressive some animal rights groups can be, I don't think it'd be the "equality movement" you'd have to worry about. If they're literally zombified people, I'm sure either a branch of PETA or some similar group would spring up for the ethical treatment of zombies.
jreilly89 wrote: Yeahhhhh, no offense, but I'd like to see you try and efficiently take down a zombie with a katana. Nothing personal, I'm sure you have the "training" but zombies aren't like a regular fighter. I think the claymore is the way to go here in terms of dismemberment
I agree on the effectiveness but you will need arms like Arnold to swing it more than a few times.
Part of the "skill" is consistently hitting the "sweet spot" of the sword in the end 1/3rd on moving targets: it is little more than a knife hitting too late.
Having a target not trying to hit me in the head with another sword would make things easier I suspect.
No offence taken, you should try out the sport, same rude awakening I had with golf: how hard could it be?
But hey, best made plans fall apart when facing zombies.
Oh absolutely, I've played around with a bokken (sp?) and would love to be part of an actual club, I just don't know of one near me.
What are your thoughts on a kukri or machete for general dismemberment?
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Reavsie wrote: Chainsaw and Boomstick are the preferred anti-zombie weapons of choice I believe.
You can get these in the zombie defence aisle at your local S-Mart.
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If you're going to be chopping, I think a Kaiser blade will be your best bet.
Spoiler:
When it comes to zombies though, unless it's Return of the Living Dead style a steel pipe or something that won't get stuck on a bone would be preferable to crush skulls.
n0t_u wrote: Zombies are fine, the only reason they ever seem to work in the movies is the military is not even competent enough to tie their shoes in it and they're not in Australia. Once it became clear what was going on I think it'd be quarantined and over in a couple months at most. I say couple of months cause with how the equality movements are going they might start protesting for zombie rights.
With how aggressive some animal rights groups can be, I don't think it'd be the "equality movement" you'd have to worry about. If they're literally zombified people, I'm sure either a branch of PETA or some similar group would spring up for the ethical treatment of zombies.
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2016/05/05 15:15:07
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
Sinful Hero wrote: If you're going to be chopping, I think a Kaiser blade will be your best bet.
Spoiler:
When it comes to zombies though, unless it's Return of the Living Dead style a steel pipe or something that won't get stuck on a bone would be preferable to crush skulls.
Listen. We all kno the best way to fight zombies is light magic. OR Holy Water. Hold up in your localchurch, steal their holy water to fill with water balloons, boom your fine.
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2016/05/05 15:42:15
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
Sinful Hero wrote: If you're going to be chopping, I think a Kaiser blade will be your best bet.
Spoiler:
When it comes to zombies though, unless it's Return of the Living Dead style a steel pipe or something that won't get stuck on a bone would be preferable to crush skulls.
You mean a Sling Blade?
Kaiser blade. Also known as a Sling Blade, yes. "I aim to kill you with it."
I've heard it called everything from Kaiser blade, Sling Blade, Jo Blade, Bank Axe, and a Bush Axe. I think that link has a few more too. It has many names, but at the end of the day it's a big blade on a stick.
jreilly89 wrote: What are your thoughts on a kukri or machete for general dismemberment?
Disturbing questions but for some reason I like it...
Kukri is great for ensuring you hit with the "good" part of the blade, you need a straight swing though, I do not like how it wants to twist hard if you get a deflecting blow in.
With the blade that small you will be in close so then you are trying to puncture the skull which could be challenging... yeah zombie I would like just out of reach thanks.
Machete: Nothing to complain about for utility, tough weapon and light. If I had to be close-in (like inside a building) it would perform well (not snag on ceiling when swinging).
I am always surprised how much force you can apply with the blade.
A fellow here on dakka claimed a "crash axe" has the most utility and I think he is right... I want to own one to get a feel for it.
The pick at the back is of particular note.
I am no expert but certainly opinionated when it comes to swinging objects.
I love maces but really need to exercise more to do them justice.
Aaaannnyyywayyyy... I am happy I do not need to cut into walking corpses for a while yet.
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