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 plastictrees wrote:
Top of a disk? Could be a foot peg hole to the right there.

Take a look at the sprue from the Gaunt Summoner...



It likewise has a mouth like opening on the top of the disc.

Looks like a disc to me, though it could be a different disc-like object. I'm guessing that the staff top shown a few weeks back will be held by the wizard standing on this disc. Mortal Tzeentch discs have always looked different from Daemon Tzeentch dics anyway.

At the risk of everyone looking for my head: I dislike that griffon quite A LOT.

I don't know why, but I feel like the art-to-model transition is quite lame. And of course is a really cool model, but is not of my taste.

That being said, while I would like a constant stream of new models, this is really good to see that there is room for certain discontinued models to return. I still feel bad for not getting the Glade Riders, there was no lore discrepancy for them to not being here.

For the Rumor Engine: those eyes makes me think that is a Tzeentchian disk, or maybe some daemon engine/chariot.

Also I'm sure that this and the staff from two weeks ago are from the same miniature, serving as mount.

Considering the Tzaangor tease, this could mean that the Arcanite release is actually happening...

I like how if you cut it in half in any direction it looks like a daemon bird screaming at you.

Apparently no points for the new Battleforce battalions at least judging from the leaks. I can just hear the "But muh points" cries now.

Wayniac wrote:
Apparently no points for the new Battleforce battalions at least judging from the leaks. I can just hear the "But muh points" cries now.

I thought for sure that they would include a points value for these. The Ironjawz Battleforce is very enticing, but the Giant is a bit strange-- I was expecting a unique battalion/points cost

there's still a chance they'll appear in the app (since they're not officially out yet)

To be honest I am certain people will complain loud enough like they did at the thought of having to use Unbound (l'horreur!) to field Custodes and Sisters of Silence in 40k and get GW to add points to appease them.

Chikout wrote:
So on the French warhammer forum I found some interesting info. The price will be €65! So start collecting price. I am really tempted to get a set now.

Gonna be hard to resist at that price.

Wayniac wrote:
To be honest I am certain people will complain loud enough like they did at the thought of having to use Unbound (l'horreur!) to field Custodes and Sisters of Silence in 40k and get GW to add points to appease them.

Good, shows GW how 99% of people play the game(s).

Wayniac wrote:
To be honest I am certain people will complain loud enough like they did at the thought of having to use Unbound (l'horreur!) to field Custodes and Sisters of Silence in 40k and get GW to add points to appease them.

They complained long an hard that Grombrindal was released without points, and he still doesn't have points. GW just sees that certain things they release for Age of Sigmar are not intended for Matched Play.

ERJAK wrote:

Wayniac wrote:
To be honest I am certain people will complain loud enough like they did at the thought of having to use Unbound (l'horreur!) to field Custodes and Sisters of Silence in 40k and get GW to add points to appease them.

Good, shows GW how 99% of people play the game(s).

On the flip side, I hope that Warhammer Live has some insight to how the studio plays the game, in the hopes it will show others the "proper" way to play as GW sees it.

Wayniac wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

Wayniac wrote:
To be honest I am certain people will complain loud enough like they did at the thought of having to use Unbound (l'horreur!) to field Custodes and Sisters of Silence in 40k and get GW to add points to appease them.

Good, shows GW how 99% of people play the game(s).

On the flip side, I hope that Warhammer Live has some insight to how the studio plays the game, in the hopes it will show others the "proper" way to play as GW sees it.

O the other hand, it could teach them how higher-level players break their game, so that they can tighten up their rules. I'm hoping it becomes almost a playtest period, with GW bringing in people outside the studio to play the game and show them the combinations and rules that are broken\powerful, and those that are a lot less so. I also agree that I would love to see some interaction on the Team's part, though. Always good to get a look into the mentality behind a game

We should find out who's going in there and work with them so they bring in the cheesiest, FotM lists so GW has to acknowledge it on stream.

Well, when some appear. Personally nothing really stands out to me except the 3 Thundertusk + Stonehorn with Battlebrew list (and even that is beatable).

Requizen wrote:
We should find out who's going in there and work with them so they bring in the cheesiest, FotM lists so GW has to acknowledge it on stream.

Well, when some appear. Personally nothing really stands out to me except the 3 Thundertusk + Stonehorn with Battlebrew list (and even that is beatable).

They have high level tournament players that work on staff. Rob Symes himself has won the Southcoast GT which is still the largest AoS tourney out there. They're aware of all the crazy combos. It's not like 40k where they think people still bring plasma pistols.

If plasma pistols were still 5 pts, I'd take them. Same with Plasma Guns at 10 pts for IG.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If plasma pistols were still 5 pts, I'd take them. Same with Plasma Guns at 10 pts for IG.

I'd want them to be free personally, but that's just because I tend to see plasma guns as 'assisted suicide machines'

PGs aren't so bad, just obviously overpriced for IG, and as pistols. +15 pts for a SM is OK.

I'm looking forward to 40k 8E being more like AoS.

Requizen wrote:
We should find out who's going in there and work with them so they bring in the cheesiest, FotM lists so GW has to acknowledge it on stream.

Well, when some appear. Personally nothing really stands out to me except the 3 Thundertusk + Stonehorn with Battlebrew list (and even that is beatable).

There are a number of lists so much worse than that. Skryrefyre stands at the top of theoretical lists right now afaik, though it hasn't been actually seen in a tournament yet. I'd elaborate but somewhat off topic.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Requizen wrote:
We should find out who's going in there and work with them so they bring in the cheesiest, FotM lists so GW has to acknowledge it on stream.

Well, when some appear. Personally nothing really stands out to me except the 3 Thundertusk + Stonehorn with Battlebrew list (and even that is beatable).

There are a number of lists so much worse than that. Skryrefyre stands at the top of theoretical lists right now afaik, though it hasn't been actually seen in a tournament yet. I'd elaborate but somewhat off topic.

I think it's been in lots of tournaments now but never placed. I'm going to a small event on Saturday and I will let you know if there are any and how they get on.

 Bottle wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Requizen wrote:
We should find out who's going in there and work with them so they bring in the cheesiest, FotM lists so GW has to acknowledge it on stream.

Well, when some appear. Personally nothing really stands out to me except the 3 Thundertusk + Stonehorn with Battlebrew list (and even that is beatable).

There are a number of lists so much worse than that. Skryrefyre stands at the top of theoretical lists right now afaik, though it hasn't been actually seen in a tournament yet. I'd elaborate but somewhat off topic.

I think it's been in lots of tournaments now but never placed. I'm going to a small event on Saturday and I will let you know if there are any and how they get on.

Afaik Skryrefyre itself hasn't shown up, only Skryre-allegiance lists to get stormfiends as battleline, which is bad but not the same thing.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Bottle wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Requizen wrote:
We should find out who's going in there and work with them so they bring in the cheesiest, FotM lists so GW has to acknowledge it on stream.

Well, when some appear. Personally nothing really stands out to me except the 3 Thundertusk + Stonehorn with Battlebrew list (and even that is beatable).

There are a number of lists so much worse than that. Skryrefyre stands at the top of theoretical lists right now afaik, though it hasn't been actually seen in a tournament yet. I'd elaborate but somewhat off topic.

I think it's been in lots of tournaments now but never placed. I'm going to a small event on Saturday and I will let you know if there are any and how they get on.

Afaik Skryrefyre itself hasn't shown up, only Skryre-allegiance lists to get stormfiends as battleline, which is bad but not the same thing.

That's a meta shifter list, not really an unbeatable one. Sort of like the kunnin 'ruck, it will wreck the everloving crap out of certain armies but has some hard counters. Death skeleton horde and even that destruction list with the goblins can blunt it pretty well, those cannons only have an 8"range afterall

In terms of future meta shift, I don't see it happening. The army is difficult to get together with Warp-Grinders out of stock often and Warpfire Throwers oop outright. So its not exactly going to sweep the tournament scene any time soon. Coupled with that is there isn't a generic counter build; Kunnin Rukk, like you said, has a number of soft counters that a player could build their army to include. But to build attempting a counter of Skryrefyre would render an army much less effective against other opponents. Those two factors mean a tournament player will do better on average by building a more generic list and hoping not to fight Skryrefyre than building to accommodate such a matchup.

As a related sidenote, I do hope bonesplittaz armies increase in frequency to shift the meta at least a little away from monsters compared to now.

Hope they do more of these -- for all the systems/games.

"How to play - finding the right rule in the 40k rulebook"



At least AoS won't ever have that problem!

But... being in base-to-base doesn't necessarily mean you can't get any closer if you are measuring from the models themselves. The two models would have to be touching.

Based on that video, it seems likely that base-to-base will be the standard again after GHB 2.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Bottle wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Requizen wrote:
We should find out who's going in there and work with them so they bring in the cheesiest, FotM lists so GW has to acknowledge it on stream.

Well, when some appear. Personally nothing really stands out to me except the 3 Thundertusk + Stonehorn with Battlebrew list (and even that is beatable).

There are a number of lists so much worse than that. Skryrefyre stands at the top of theoretical lists right now afaik, though it hasn't been actually seen in a tournament yet. I'd elaborate but somewhat off topic.

I think it's been in lots of tournaments now but never placed. I'm going to a small event on Saturday and I will let you know if there are any and how they get on.

Afaik Skryrefyre itself hasn't shown up, only Skryre-allegiance lists to get stormfiends as battleline, which is bad but not the same thing.

I think there was a top 10 player at warlord who took it. Came 8th or so. I remember it being discussed on Facehammer but don't have first hand experience to confirm.

Just popped up on AOS FB

Man, GW delivers...