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Doubt it's gonna flop with the hordes of AoS and 40k players gearing up their wallets.

It's success will probably herald a start collecting box so you can hope for that at least.

@Future War Cultist, agreed on the growing setting before our eyes. So much amazing stuff they can keep adding in and grow the story with. Countless new cities, maps, armies, battles, stories, spin-offs... the future is bright!
   
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Baron Klatz wrote:
Doubt it's gonna flop with the hordes of AoS and 40k players gearing up their wallets.

It's success will probably herald a start collecting box so you can hope for that at least.

@Future War Cultist, agreed on the growing setting before our eyes. So much amazing stuff they can keep adding in and grow the story with. Countless new cities, maps, armies, battles, stories, spin-offs... the future is bright!


Amen to that!

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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 StupidYellow wrote:


Skaven were heavily influenced by Fritz Leiber from his Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, and subsequent stories.


Rat men / Wererats are fairly common in fantasy as you noted, But how they have changed in AoS is unknown save for the stuff in the Plague monk book.


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Isn't their the Ratking from the Nutcracker also? And did splinter and the ratking from TMNT come before or after GW skaven?
Edit: TMNT ratking first showed up in 1988. The Nutcracker is from 1892.

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Baron Klatz wrote:
Doubt it's gonna flop with the hordes of AoS and 40k players gearing up their wallets.

It's success will probably herald a start collecting box so you can hope for that at least.

@Future War Cultist, agreed on the growing setting before our eyes. So much amazing stuff they can keep adding in and grow the story with. Countless new cities, maps, armies, battles, stories, spin-offs... the future is bright!


My guess would be for a Start Collecting!: Kharadron Overlords box would be

Little airship
x1 unit of foot soldiers
x1 unit of jump pack guys
maybe x1 character.

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Is there any confirmation on how many models there will be per box for the infantry and balloon guys?

I guess just 10 x Infantry, 5 x Thunderers, 3 x balloons

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 Binabik15 wrote:
Price predictions, anyone?

If the little boats cost as much as gyrocopters I won't buy any, I think. Same price as a Land Speeder Storm wozld make me buy two or three. The 10 man Grundstok box hopefully costs as much (ideally less, but who am I kidding) as the Neophyte Hybrids box. That'd be insta-buy territory. The big ship is really tempting, if it'd be Glottkin price I'd get one, but I expect Archaon+ (btw, wasn't the baneblade released ten years ago? How much was that in £ on release?). The frigate is neither here nor there, not cute anymore but not yet imposing. If the balloon dudes are the price of a Stormboyz unit that'd be still okay, any more for three and no thanks.

The chars I don't really like, anyway, and new hero kits are sadly stuck in Bananaland-pricing, anyway.

PS: A "boardgame" with a couple of ships at 50% off MRSP or an even bigger discount would be nice, maybe we should let this release flop for the time being


If we can rely on current pricing....

Arkanauts probably £35 for 10, the shooty ones likely £25 for 5, or thereabouts.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Binabik15 wrote:
Price predictions, anyone?

If the little boats cost as much as gyrocopters I won't buy any, I think. Same price as a Land Speeder Storm wozld make me buy two or three. The 10 man Grundstok box hopefully costs as much (ideally less, but who am I kidding) as the Neophyte Hybrids box. That'd be insta-buy territory. The big ship is really tempting, if it'd be Glottkin price I'd get one, but I expect Archaon+ (btw, wasn't the baneblade released ten years ago? How much was that in £ on release?). The frigate is neither here nor there, not cute anymore but not yet imposing. If the balloon dudes are the price of a Stormboyz unit that'd be still okay, any more for three and no thanks.

The chars I don't really like, anyway, and new hero kits are sadly stuck in Bananaland-pricing, anyway.

PS: A "boardgame" with a couple of ships at 50% off MRSP or an even bigger discount would be nice, maybe we should let this release flop for the time being


If we can rely on current pricing....

Arkanauts probably £35 for 10, the shooty ones likely £25 for 5, or thereabouts.


You would presume (hope) they've learnt their lesson on Fyreslayer pricing and it'll be more like Tzeentch prices.
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Binabik15 wrote:
Price predictions, anyone?

If the little boats cost as much as gyrocopters I won't buy any, I think. Same price as a Land Speeder Storm wozld make me buy two or three. The 10 man Grundstok box hopefully costs as much (ideally less, but who am I kidding) as the Neophyte Hybrids box. That'd be insta-buy territory. The big ship is really tempting, if it'd be Glottkin price I'd get one, but I expect Archaon+ (btw, wasn't the baneblade released ten years ago? How much was that in £ on release?). The frigate is neither here nor there, not cute anymore but not yet imposing. If the balloon dudes are the price of a Stormboyz unit that'd be still okay, any more for three and no thanks.

The chars I don't really like, anyway, and new hero kits are sadly stuck in Bananaland-pricing, anyway.

PS: A "boardgame" with a couple of ships at 50% off MRSP or an even bigger discount would be nice, maybe we should let this release flop for the time being


If we can rely on current pricing....

Arkanauts probably £35 for 10, the shooty ones likely £25 for 5, or thereabouts.


IF we can rely on current pricing I expect them to be on par with 40k tacticals/tzaangors and the grundstok to be on par with tree-revenants.
   
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 angelofvengeance wrote:
Baron Klatz wrote:
Doubt it's gonna flop with the hordes of AoS and 40k players gearing up their wallets.

It's success will probably herald a start collecting box so you can hope for that at least.

@Future War Cultist, agreed on the growing setting before our eyes. So much amazing stuff they can keep adding in and grow the story with. Countless new cities, maps, armies, battles, stories, spin-offs... the future is bright!


My guess would be for a Start Collecting!: Kharadron Overlords box would be

Little airship
x1 unit of foot soldiers
x1 unit of jump pack guys
maybe x1 character.

each start collecting box comes with a character. So most likely:
x1 small or medium ship(depending on the actual size and price)
x1 foot or balloon guys
x1 character

 
   
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terry wrote:
 angelofvengeance wrote:
Baron Klatz wrote:
Doubt it's gonna flop with the hordes of AoS and 40k players gearing up their wallets.

It's success will probably herald a start collecting box so you can hope for that at least.

@Future War Cultist, agreed on the growing setting before our eyes. So much amazing stuff they can keep adding in and grow the story with. Countless new cities, maps, armies, battles, stories, spin-offs... the future is bright!


My guess would be for a Start Collecting!: Kharadron Overlords box would be

Little airship
x1 unit of foot soldiers
x1 unit of jump pack guys
maybe x1 character.

each start collecting box comes with a character. So most likely:
x1 small or medium ship(depending on the actual size and price)
x1 foot or balloon guys
x1 character


Not always, SC! StD has 4 units. SC! greenskins has 4 units too. SC! FEC can have 3-4 units. It varies a bit.
   
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Honestly there's so many potential combinations I have no idea how'd they do it.
   
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The savings also vary.

Seraphon get a Carnosaur and assorted other gumph for the price of....a Carnosaur. Others offer less of a discount.


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They might do an Army Box as it's a new army.
   
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As a Skryre and Pestilens player those Skaven rumors make me happy. There is an image of spear-wielding plague monks in the battletome that has intrigued me for some time...

In regards to fluff, there has been a decent amount released on Skaven to give the basic idea. At the end of the Old World, Skavenblight moved into the Realm of Chaos as the GHR was (begrudgingly) accepted into the pantheon as the 5th Chaos God. Some disaster took place in Skavenblight shortly after, causing it to end up neither in the Mortal Realms or in the Realm of Chaos but rather in between. From there, Skaven have capitalized on the position by tunnelling between the realms using 'gnaw-holes' that exist outside of conventional reality (but connect to it) and can bypass the need for realmgates entirely. Using these they can pop up potentially anywhere, and accordingly have outposts in all the Realms. The major clans have split up while the warlord clans are now covered under Verminous. Every clan (save Eshin) still has legions of slaves though, while the likes of Skryre/Moulder are still selling products and Eshin still hires out assassins.

So put in other.words, nothing has changed save the Skaven have upgraded from being simply underground to having a 'tunnel' network that exists outside conventional reality.

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Woop woop! Bless the Royal Mail and GW pantheon, Time to digest this beautiful WD.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
As a Skryre and Pestilens player those Skaven rumors make me happy. There is an image of spear-wielding plague monks in the battletome that has intrigued me for some time...

In regards to fluff, there has been a decent amount released on Skaven to give the basic idea. At the end of the Old World, Skavenblight moved into the Realm of Chaos as the GHR was (begrudgingly) accepted into the pantheon as the 5th Chaos God. Some disaster took place in Skavenblight shortly after, causing it to end up neither in the Mortal Realms or in the Realm of Chaos but rather in between. From there, Skaven have capitalized on the position by tunnelling between the realms using 'gnaw-holes' that exist outside of conventional reality (but connect to it) and can bypass the need for realmgates entirely. Using these they can pop up potentially anywhere, and accordingly have outposts in all the Realms. The major clans have split up while the warlord clans are now covered under Verminous. Every clan (save Eshin) still has legions of slaves though, while the likes of Skryre/Moulder are still selling products and Eshin still hires out assassins.

So put in other.words, nothing has changed save the Skaven have upgraded from being simply underground to having a 'tunnel' network that exists outside conventional reality.


And they're still 100% back-stabbing own worst enemies!

When Skryre gets it's Battletome, I can see myself dropping big money on them. Only reason I don't have a Skaven army at the moment is my old one was stolen whilst I was on the GW Management Training Course in 2010, and it upset me to the point of not having the will to start collecting again.

*sad squeak*

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Holy Terra.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
As a Skryre and Pestilens player those Skaven rumors make me happy. There is an image of spear-wielding plague monks in the battletome that has intrigued me for some time...

In regards to fluff, there has been a decent amount released on Skaven to give the basic idea. At the end of the Old World, Skavenblight moved into the Realm of Chaos as the GHR was (begrudgingly) accepted into the pantheon as the 5th Chaos God. Some disaster took place in Skavenblight shortly after, causing it to end up neither in the Mortal Realms or in the Realm of Chaos but rather in between. From there, Skaven have capitalized on the position by tunnelling between the realms using 'gnaw-holes' that exist outside of conventional reality (but connect to it) and can bypass the need for realmgates entirely. Using these they can pop up potentially anywhere, and accordingly have outposts in all the Realms. The major clans have split up while the warlord clans are now covered under Verminous. Every clan (save Eshin) still has legions of slaves though, while the likes of Skryre/Moulder are still selling products and Eshin still hires out assassins.

So put in other.words, nothing has changed save the Skaven have upgraded from being simply underground to having a 'tunnel' network that exists outside conventional reality.


And they're still 100% back-stabbing own worst enemies!

When Skryre gets it's Battletome, I can see myself dropping big money on them. Only reason I don't have a Skaven army at the moment is my old one was stolen whilst I was on the GW Management Training Course in 2010, and it upset me to the point of not having the will to start collecting again.

*sad squeak*


I regret-regret that. I deft-defiantly didN'T (well, probably didn't) steal them.

   
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Holy the Ironclad is huge!

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Alpharius wrote:That Ironclad...so awesome!

Some really cool stuff with this release!

I guess I'm going to finally have to take serious look at AoS...


Oh great! Now all my Chaos heroes are Alpharius.

zamerion wrote:Thanks for the info BrookM


Also Hastings said this:

I am expecting Skaven later this year, and as far as I know there will be "some" repacks but also plenty of nasty new additions (I seem to recall it's much more of a Skyre type affair this time around with new technologies/weapons etc.) but I wouldn't be surprised to see some new plague monk type things. These currently seem to be the favoured skaven subfactions for GW, hopefully the new book will clarify what Skaven are like in the new setting and their backstory from leaving the old world and what they've done since arrival etc.


Sweet! Another army to add to the Legion of Rusted Chains! One of these days, I'll actually right down my head canon.

overtyrant wrote:They might do an Army Box as it's a new army.


I wouldn't expect any more large army boxes until late next year. We'll probably see more Battleforce boxes like last December, hopefully for Kharadron Overlords and Tzeentch Arcanites, as well as SC boxes for both armies.

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Urrggh reaaaally crap photees sorry guys but trying to show size of this thing and also tiny snippet of some cool af looking artwork. Get hype!

Spoiler:

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 unmercifulconker wrote:
Urrggh reaaaally crap photees sorry guys but trying to show size of this thing and also tiny snippet of some cool af looking artwork. Get hype!

Spoiler:


Thanks for the pics.

Some info about how the ship works? (as transport)
   
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Just about to read through it properly now, although Im training soon so might not get a chance to post again till tonight sorry but hopefully and im sure someone else has their WD today too.

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I really want a monster/mehcanical-heavy Skaven force so new releases will be welcome! I do NOT wish to paint up another horde, but Rat Ogors and Stormfiend-esque things with new war engines would be nice.

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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 StupidYellow wrote:


Skaven were heavily influenced by Fritz Leiber from his Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, and subsequent stories.


Rat men / Wererats are fairly common in fantasy as you noted, But how they have changed in AoS is unknown save for the stuff in the Plague monk book.


Learn something everyday.


Yeah, original Skaven were basically lifted whole cloth from The Swords of Lankhmar. They live underground, have a 13-member council, walk upright, use "infested" (or blighted) weapons...
But the goal of Warhammer back in the day was to include elements from every major fantasy fiction at the time to get you interested. Hell, early Dark Elves were repackaged Melnibonean models...

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Buckle up ladies, Brokk Grungsson is coming to town to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and he's all out of bubble gum.



He compares fairly with settra if you ask me.
   
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Buckle up ladies, Brokk Grungsson is coming to town to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and he's all out of bubble gum.



He compares fairly with settra if you ask me.


Not even close. Settra is SUCH a force-multiplier that he's obscene, and Incantation of the Desert Wind makes half the TK units get easy first-turn charges. Almost nothing in AoS is Settra tier. :-p

However, he's awesome looking and a hell of a nova-charging monster/hero hunter.

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I love that baloon duardin can hitch a ride on the airships without counting towards the transport capacity

Also really like that the airships can become overburdened if you put to many guys in them. Such a fitting rule and I hope to see Orruk and/or Grot transports in the future using similar rules but with hopefully hilarious results

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lol no info for kharadron battletome, but card preorder on 8 april :S



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Thanks so much for sharing this!

I'm liking his Command Ability, and Grungsson's Boast looks like a nasty weapon.
   
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Does anyone think the 'Skyfarer' keyword on Brokk's warscroll could refer to a particular type of model, in the same way as 'Daemon', for instance?
   
 
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