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motski wrote:
It's probably going to work out cheaper for Australians/New Zealanders to buy Mk IV off forgeworld rather than these plastic kits from GW, given the usual Oceania markup and the fact that the pound has really tanked after Brexit (and could well fall further).

Is it worth buying from UK at retail + shipping for the BaC boxes? I don't mind carrying a couple of boxes from GW -> Post Office for fellow Dakkanaughts.

In a world of $30 HQ clampacks, I can see the 2 for $50 price. And those are some nice looking guys. So at least those guys are priced like their peers.

Of course, $30 for a HQ is an unreasonable price, but that’s another argument.

Terminators are blurry, is that $55? Not to far off from the current kits.

The dread is crazy, and I don’t see why the tacs are that much more then the basic ones.

 streetsamurai wrote:
One of the worst they ever made...

Really????

At least i can now buy 10 Cataphactii Terminators without buying BaC or using Ebay (i dont trust people)
Those Grave Wardens Stolen by the Alpha Legion Aren't going to make themselves!

commander dante wrote:
At least i can now buy 10 Cataphactii Terminators without buying BaC or using Ebay (i dont trust people)
Those Grave Wardens Stolen by the Alpha Legion Aren't going to make themselves!

Do you dislike money?

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
One of the worst they ever made...

Really????

What?! That was a great model IMO Classic!

 Nevelon wrote:
In a world of $30 HQ clampacks, I can see the 2 for $50 price. And those are some nice looking guys. So at least those guys are priced like their peers.

Of course, $30 for a HQ is an unreasonable price, but that’s another argument.

Terminators are blurry, is that $55? Not to far off from the current kits.

The dread is crazy, and I don’t see why the tacs are that much more then the basic ones.

Hard to make out, but it looks like $65 to me. They're £5 more than the Contemptor, so $5 more makes sense. That brings the total to $325US for the equivalent model count for BaC! Makes BaC an even better deal, especially if you have a seller near you that has a discount on it!

Yeah... Those prices just make me wanna pick up BaC...

 Whumbachumba wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
In a world of $30 HQ clampacks, I can see the 2 for $50 price. And those are some nice looking guys. So at least those guys are priced like their peers.

Of course, $30 for a HQ is an unreasonable price, but that’s another argument.

Terminators are blurry, is that $55? Not to far off from the current kits.

The dread is crazy, and I don’t see why the tacs are that much more then the basic ones.

Hard to make out, but it looks like $65 to me. They're £5 more than the Contemptor, so $5 more makes sense. That brings the total to $325US for the equivalent model count for BaC! Makes BaC an even better deal, especially if you have a seller near you that has a discount on it!

We all knew that BaC was a great deal. Getting things individually was going to be more. But they are not even in the same ballpark as the rest of the individual boxes.

I was honestly expecting the tacs to be roughly the same as the old tac box, probably a buck or two more. Same with the terminators.

But this is crazy.

Herzlos wrote:

commander dante wrote:
At least i can now buy 10 Cataphactii Terminators without buying BaC or using Ebay (i dont trust people)
Those Grave Wardens Stolen by the Alpha Legion Aren't going to make themselves!

Do you dislike money?

I mean, the boxes probably are more expensive than they should be, but if he just wants 10 Terminators it's much more economical to buy the 10 man box than buy a whole new BaC box.

You can get a Contemptor from Forgeworld with the exact same weapon options for like 10 bucks more than that monopose goofball of a Dreadnought. I don't hate the plastic Contemptor but dear lord is $60 for it highway robbery. Guess this all makes Betrayal at Calth an even better deal, which is probably the point of it all.

Requizen wrote:

Herzlos wrote:

commander dante wrote:
At least i can now buy 10 Cataphactii Terminators without buying BaC or using Ebay (i dont trust people)
Those Grave Wardens Stolen by the Alpha Legion Aren't going to make themselves!

Do you dislike money?

I mean, the boxes probably are more expensive than they should be, but if he just wants 10 Terminators it's much more economical to buy the 10 man box than buy a whole new BaC box.

Well, I guess... Personally I'd buy the 2 Betrayal at Calth boxes and sell the rest off for a profit. Going by Canadian $$ I'd have to sell the remaining box contents off for $100 to break even. GW is selling the equivalent individual boxes for $310. I figure for brand new minis still on sprue I could get 65% of GW asking price. A quick $200 profit no sweat.

Keep in mind for that £40 you're only getting 5 Terminators.

But is the Calth box a limited release or not?

 Malika2 wrote:
But is the Calth box a limited release or not?

GW haven't said as much. When I asked, they told me it'd be available for the foreseeable future.

commander dante wrote:
At least i can now buy 10 Cataphactii Terminators without buying BaC or using Ebay (i dont trust people)
Those Grave Wardens Stolen by the Alpha Legion Aren't going to make themselves!

At $130 for 10, I don't think your plan is very economical. I suggest you buy a Calth box and make some trades at your LFGS.

And so the GW price rollercoaster continues its wacky ride.

And there goes any hope for GW to have learned from its past mistakes.

The company faces two issues that keep the turnover on a downward spiral - high prices and shoddy rules, and no amount of Facebook tomfoolery or nostalgia shots can change that.

$60 for the Contemptor is so absurd it might as well have come from a Dali painting.

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Reds8n

The BaC Contemptor isn't horrible, but it's way more static and the join between the torso and hips is way too thin. Aside from that I'd be more tempted to get the plastic one if it ran in the same price bracket as the other plastic Dreads. For $15 Canadian more though, I'll pass. The FW one is a couple quid less although it admittedly doesn't come with arms.

Eh. Anyone with a bit about them could easily change the pose of the Pla-temptor dread. Saw, plasticard and greenstuff. Boom! Voila.

Requizen wrote:

Herzlos wrote:

commander dante wrote:
At least i can now buy 10 Cataphactii Terminators without buying BaC or using Ebay (i dont trust people)
Those Grave Wardens Stolen by the Alpha Legion Aren't going to make themselves!

Do you dislike money?

I mean, the boxes probably are more expensive than they should be, but if he just wants 10 Terminators it's much more economical to buy the 10 man box than buy a whole new BaC box.

Is it a 10 man box, or 2x 5 man boxes? If the latter, you're nearly at the BaC price anyway.
For half the price for the same sprues I'd be really tempted by ebay; most of the sellers will be small businesses anyway.

http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/horus-heresybetrayal-at-calth-kits-c-980.html?sesid=5hfnu6apnidi7m3tup0v5vg2e5
Dread for £15, squads for £25. Sold out for the moment but sign up to his news letter to let you know when he's restocked.

 bubber wrote:
http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/horus-heresybetrayal-at-calth-kits-c-980.html?sesid=5hfnu6apnidi7m3tup0v5vg2e5
Dread for £15, squads for £25. Sold out for the moment but sign up to his news letter to let you know when he's restocked.

I wouldn't recommend buying anything from Bits and Kits. They have NO customer service. I ordered from them once, and they screwed up my order. But they don't provide any way of contacting them that actually works, so I was just out of luck after being ripped off by them.

Albino Squirrel wrote:

 bubber wrote:
http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/horus-heresybetrayal-at-calth-kits-c-980.html?sesid=5hfnu6apnidi7m3tup0v5vg2e5
Dread for £15, squads for £25. Sold out for the moment but sign up to his news letter to let you know when he's restocked.

I wouldn't recommend buying anything from Bits and Kits. They have NO customer service. I ordered from them once, and they screwed up my order. But they don't provide any way of contacting them that actually works, so I was just out of luck after being ripped off by them.

Obviously Ymmv, but I've never had any problems contacting them about orders or issues, I think I've had maybe one issue with them in the past, and it was resolved almost immediately. Pretty much my only issue with B&K is that they don't always have the bits I want, but what bits seller does lol.


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On another note, it's making me chuckle a little that everyone is slating the monopose dreadnought, and how terrible it is, basically saying how they would likely never buy it anyway.

Then complaining that it's too much money.

What do you care? It's a sculpt you aren't going to buy anyway?

It's like me, I have one, I actually only have it because it came with BaC, it's not a great model, but it looks ok once it's built and painted. I wouldn't buy one, I wouldn't pay what they are asking for it individually. But I don't really care what they want to charge for it. If I want the better version, I can get it from forgeworld for the price it always was.

Did people really expect GW to undercut their own prices and compete with their own models?

Some good quality scans on Miniwars.eu

http://www.miniwars.eu/2016/07/imagenes-white-dwarf-128.html

Albino Squirrel wrote:

 bubber wrote:
http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/horus-heresybetrayal-at-calth-kits-c-980.html?sesid=5hfnu6apnidi7m3tup0v5vg2e5
Dread for £15, squads for £25. Sold out for the moment but sign up to his news letter to let you know when he's restocked.

I wouldn't recommend buying anything from Bits and Kits. They have NO customer service. I ordered from them once, and they screwed up my order. But they don't provide any way of contacting them that actually works, so I was just out of luck after being ripped off by them.

Just FYI, some American Email Providers, like Comcast, filter all automated UK based Email like it's all plague ridden with spyware.

I have issues with Terragenesis and Foreworld emails all the time. I had to switch to using Gmail to contact them.

Albino Squirrel wrote:

 bubber wrote:
http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/horus-heresybetrayal-at-calth-kits-c-980.html?sesid=5hfnu6apnidi7m3tup0v5vg2e5
Dread for £15, squads for £25. Sold out for the moment but sign up to his news letter to let you know when he's restocked.

I wouldn't recommend buying anything from Bits and Kits. They have NO customer service. I ordered from them once, and they screwed up my order. But they don't provide any way of contacting them that actually works, so I was just out of luck after being ripped off by them.

I order from them almost once a month for the last two years without ever having a mistake. You have to have terrible luck my friend.

I still can not believe they are trying to pass that contemptor off for $60. They those things are going to be hella good dust collectors, another one of those kits in GW stores that have sun faded boxes.

Ha, I know it is pure repetition at this point, but the price for the contemptor and terminators!! $60 and $65 is utterly bizarre. We knew HH was supposed to be their premium brand, but that is quite wild!

Be interesting to see how the second hand market adjusts.

Forgeworld an outright deal!

Sre the terminators customizable or are they monopose ?

They're multipart.

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
One of the worst they ever made...

Really????

I laughed but you know that isn't even fair. That dreadnought was actually one of the best kits back in it's day, I mean none of the metal dreads aged well but at least he matched the aesthetic of the day. the plastic contemptor is just a garbage version of the already countless contemptor models.