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It's probably going to work out cheaper for Australians/New Zealanders to buy Mk IV off forgeworld rather than these plastic kits from GW, given the usual Oceania markup and the fact that the pound has really tanked after Brexit (and could well fall further).

Grabbed 2 sets to be safe.
Only need 1, but then i have a spare if I want to start another legion.

 aka_mythos wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Talys wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Looks like I will need to pick up a box or two of Betrayal at Calth to make some Heresy Era Imperial Fists. I still want to wait to see if they make Mk III.

MkIII would make me very happy

I know, if they came out it would make my day. I would love to start Imperial Fists using them. I am still thinking Mk IV would be good too.

GW's been really risk averse with BaC. The word was they chose MkIV because they so easily blend with 40k marines and could be easily re-purposed to that end, with parts that easily mix and match with 40k marines without looking out of place. I think Mk II and Mk III marines are exactly what GW was trying to avoid. I think if GW does another set of Heresy Era plastics, I think they will similarly choose Mk V armor for the same reason.

Yeah typical GW. Risk averse on risk free project that will sell like hot cakes anyway and take huge gambles elsewhere

that's the most expensive plastic dread to date!

That's so when they repack it in a Get Started box you can feel like your getting a real value.

 aracersss wrote:
that's the most expensive plastic dread to date!

I wonder if the rules inside will just be reprints of the rules from Angels of Death. I wouldn't mind seeing them become available for non-C:SM chapters. My brother just picked up BaC for his Dark Angels, I know he would definitely like to use the Cataphractii.

The Contemptor was a big disappointment for me. I'll be sticking to the FW versions unless it comes with a load more weapon options than the BaC version(unlikely) that can be used with the resin body.

tneva82 wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Talys wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Looks like I will need to pick up a box or two of Betrayal at Calth to make some Heresy Era Imperial Fists. I still want to wait to see if they make Mk III.

MkIII would make me very happy

I know, if they came out it would make my day. I would love to start Imperial Fists using them. I am still thinking Mk IV would be good too.

GW's been really risk averse with BaC. The word was they chose MkIV because they so easily blend with 40k marines and could be easily re-purposed to that end, with parts that easily mix and match with 40k marines without looking out of place. I think Mk II and Mk III marines are exactly what GW was trying to avoid. I think if GW does another set of Heresy Era plastics, I think they will similarly choose Mk V armor for the same reason.

Yeah typical GW. Risk averse on risk free project that will sell like hot cakes anyway and take huge gambles elsewhere

We know it was a risk free endeavor but what this risk aversion tells us is that the people who were making decisions at the time were those pretty removed from the player base. Even though these are a byproduct of the efforts of GW's current CEO the lead time of it dates it back to while GW was under its previous CEO. Their previous CEO really didn't understand the gaming aspect of the hobby and saw the hobby as a collectables market. There were at the time two camps in the management level of GW and the one with a better understanding of things won out. That makes the likelihood of more heresy era plastics better and a commitment to that end is clear by means of the return of Specialist Games with FW now under that umbrella. If we get more Heresy era plastic will boil down to the overall market strategy the new CEO has brought. While BAC has opened up the HH to a larger number of players how far can that go? FW can offer a far greater variety and number of specialized products than GW could and GW stepping can end up diluting that and diminishing aspects of the long term marketability.

Thanks for the cover pic, aracersss

Saw these on Spikey Bits. $50US for 10 Marines and $60US for Contemptor Dreadnought.

pfft $100 AUD for the plastic Contemptor? A proper FW resin one is cheaper and more pose-able.

Good luck selling that mono-pose garbage fire for $60 GW.

They are asking almost the same amount for FW's contemptor ($7 less...lol pounds) but zero of the quality.

......I guess FW contemptors now look like they are worth it..?

....lol pounds

I guess they want more people to buy BaC. Not sure shipping a bunch of vastly over priced product to get people to buy the same product but only moderately over priced and in a package is a winning economic strategy.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Thanks for the cover pic, aracersss

np

... on a side note _ what the actual feth? 60$ for a mono-pose dread with 2 range options oO

Yeah.. anyone looking to get into 30k is better off buying the B@C box set lol.

Thanks, Whumbachumba

£35 plastic Contemptor? Ouch.

The Tacticals and Cataphractii? Fair enough.

But the Contemptor? At that point I'd save up the extra to splash out for a FW Contemptor with weapons of my choice.

Cover pic makes me laugh though.

'And more.'

What is the more? You mean the character sprue? You already listed everything else

Man, at those prices, I would be better off getting the FW Mk III stuff rather pay an arm and a leg for Mk IV stuff. I don't know. I could probably get by with Mk IV. I don't want a piecemeal army, though. I want those suckers to all be in one armor mark.

The mk4 tacticals are $10 more expensive than the normal tactical box.

I'd be better off buying a fourth BAC, costs as much as three Tactical squads...

 Crazyterran wrote:
The mk4 tacticals are $10 more expensive than the normal tactical box.

I'd be better off buying a fourth BAC, costs as much as three Tactical squads...

And it gets you free Terminators, a Contemptor, and two characters. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I just want to get a couple boxes of BaC to make my HH era Imperial Fists. Mk IV armor is still my favorite in appearance, even if it isn't exactly perfect for Imperial Fists. Especially since Phalanx Warders are in Mk IV armor, and my goal is to make the army all in one armor mark.

We should not forget that BaC was originally more expensive and they reduced the price between Warhammer Visions (about 3 months in advance) and WD Weekly print runs.



150 EUR -> 125 EUR makes quite a difference. That's why BaC is such a good offer - also compared to other multipart 40k kits like the Tactical Marines.

I think the high prices for individual kits help to shift BaC boxes. FW is getting undercut but with the current exchange rate they still make their sales.

These prices are Lol inducing. especially the dread. One of the worst they ever made, yet he is the most expensive

Wow, they're flogging that lame monopose dreadnought for $60? The Ven dread is cheaper and comes with a gak ton more options! Hell, you can even use it in the Horus Heresy!

Yeah, that's a fething joke. Seems like that will never change, at least.

Warhams-77 wrote:
We should not forget that BaC was originally more expensive and they reduced the price between Warhammer Visions (about 3 months in advance) and WD Weekly print runs.

Didn't they straight up come out and say that the more expensive price wasn't intended to see print? It was lowered before it was even released afaik.

But yeah, Venerarble Dreadnought and even the Mk V's are cheaper and perfectly usable in 30k as well.

even more ...

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
We should not forget that BaC was originally more expensive and they reduced the price between Warhammer Visions (about 3 months in advance) and WD Weekly print runs.

Didn't they straight up come out and say that the more expensive price wasn't intended to see print? It was lowered before it was even released afaik.

But yeah, Venerarble Dreadnought and even the Mk V's are cheaper and perfectly usable in 30k as well.

It was lowered before release. GW have said so but this was to counter rumors that the price of BaC would rise a month after release. I'm not pointing the finger but this was run as a headline on some of the 'less accurate rumor sites' when the Vision issue came out - which is always after the product gets released - and there was a story constructed around it.

Oh...my...God.

Just when I thought GW was changing even a little, they get even stupider. 50 bucks for the two heroes? They can be had for 15 bucks on Ebay! Everything is literally double or more of the Ebay prices.

Why is the Mk.IV Tac Squad AUD$20 more than the regular Tac Squad?

Yeah, GW sure have turned a new leaf in the age of Roundtree...

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Oh...my...God.

Just when I thought GW was changing even a little, they get even stupider. 50 bucks for the two heroes? They can be had for 15 bucks on Ebay! Everything is literally double or more of the Ebay prices.

*cue in ebay price increases*

tneva82 wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Oh...my...God.

Just when I thought GW was changing even a little, they get even stupider. 50 bucks for the two heroes? They can be had for 15 bucks on Ebay! Everything is literally double or more of the Ebay prices.

*cue in ebay price increases*

Buy your Betrayal at Calth Boxed Sets while you can, folks!