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Yeah, you might as well just grab the FW contemptor and shell out just a little bit more for the weapon arms.

 Brother SRM wrote:
You can get a Contemptor from Forgeworld with the exact same weapon options for like 10 bucks more than that monopose goofball of a Dreadnought. I don't hate the plastic Contemptor but dear lord is $60 for it highway robbery. Guess this all makes Betrayal at Calth an even better deal, which is probably the point of it all.

Forge world ones including shipping cost a few bucks less in nz. >.>

I think you might have to email them for it, but Doc's Game Store was asking $117 for the Calth box the last time I asked. I doubt you could get Calth from the UK cheaper than that.

My reaction when i saw the price of that contemptor

Wow, Aussie mark up is strong in this one. lets break it down. Buying BaC complete box (30 mkiv, 2 characters, 5 termies, 1 dread) AU$265.

To buy these boxes individually to makeup the same amount of models you get in the BaC box equals AU$555!! We can buy 2x BaC boxes for double the models for AU$530.

Also love that 10 MKIV marines are AU$85 and the two character models together are also AU$85, must be a lot of plastic in those two guys.....

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
£35 plastic Contemptor? Ouch.

5£ more I was expecting. 28£ was absolute minimum it was ever going to go for. I expected slight price rice but not 7£ hike.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
One of the worst they ever made...

Really????

I laughed but you know that isn't even fair. That dreadnought was actually one of the best kits back in it's day, I mean none of the metal dreads aged well but at least he matched the aesthetic of the day. the plastic contemptor is just a garbage version of the already countless contemptor models.

No, it really wasn't a good kit, even back in the day. Everyone in my local area hated them, anyway. We tended to convert our own from Loyalist Dreads and the odd bit from the Chaos one (via UK bitz mail order).

 Azazelx wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
One of the worst they ever made...

Really????

I laughed but you know that isn't even fair. That dreadnought was actually one of the best kits back in it's day, I mean none of the metal dreads aged well but at least he matched the aesthetic of the day. the plastic contemptor is just a garbage version of the already countless contemptor models.

No, it really wasn't a good kit, even back in the day. Everyone in my local area hated them, anyway. We tended to convert our own from Loyalist Dreads and the odd bit from the Chaos one (via UK bitz mail order).

I remember thinking they looked cool at the time. But unlike other models from back then, they haven't stood the test of time. It looks really bad now, especially compared to the classic loyalist one.

bloodzy wrote:
Wow, Aussie mark up is strong in this one. lets break it down. Buying BaC complete box (30 mkiv, 2 characters, 5 termies, 1 dread) AU$265.

To buy these boxes individually to makeup the same amount of models you get in the BaC box equals AU$555!! We can buy 2x BaC boxes for double the models for AU$530.

Also love that 10 MKIV marines are AU$85 and the two character models together are also AU$85, must be a lot of plastic in those two guys.....

What's aussie markup got to do with it? It's double the price in GBP too.

BaC - £95

3x mk iv squads £90
Characters set £30
Terminators £35
Dreadnought £35

Total £190

The difference is tiny

 General Kroll wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
One of the worst they ever made...

Really????

I laughed but you know that isn't even fair. That dreadnought was actually one of the best kits back in it's day, I mean none of the metal dreads aged well but at least he matched the aesthetic of the day. the plastic contemptor is just a garbage version of the already countless contemptor models.

No, it really wasn't a good kit, even back in the day. Everyone in my local area hated them, anyway. We tended to convert our own from Loyalist Dreads and the odd bit from the Chaos one (via UK bitz mail order).

I remember thinking they looked cool at the time. But unlike other models from back then, they haven't stood the test of time. It looks really bad now, especially compared to the classic loyalist one.

You take that back.

They do make rather nice Mk III's for 30k stuff though.

And I prefer mine to the gakky Helbrute simply because its aesthetic better suits my CSM than some fleshblob aesthetic I didn't even want.

70 CAD for a Clampack!? (the Contemptor)

I can understand 40 or even 50 but 70's a little too rich even for this hobby.

I really hope they don't discontinue Betrayal, cuz these prices will destroy what good will that set built up.

I think this could work out well if the rumours are true about another big game box is coming before Christmas, otherwise I fear it will anger people who have memories of Calth when they want to expand.

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It is happening! I am actually surprised they marked them as purely Horus Heresy models and not 40k cross over kits.

I probably overlooked it but do the new boxes include transfer sheets?

 privateer4hire wrote:
I probably overlooked it but do the new boxes include transfer sheets?

Just checked the New Zealand site & yes, you get transfers - both Ultras & Word Bearers.

Should be the one from BaC

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
70 CAD for a Clampack!? (the Contemptor)

I can understand 40 or even 50 but 70's a little too rich even for this hobby.

I really hope they don't discontinue Betrayal, cuz these prices will destroy what good will that set built up.

I know, that is just way to much. But it's a want, not a need. So I really don't need it, and the price makes me not want it. I would even say $50 Canadian is too much. (I am Canadian, flag not showing it) add in what 15% tax it comes to almost $60 but being $70 that is almost $80 bucks, can get a Riptide or even the great Get Started bundles that are out there.

All I can see is it's for that one or few people who don't want to spend $180 for the box to just get another minis. But still $80 for an ugly non possible mini is just insane.

 EmperorsChampion wrote:
It is happening! I am actually surprised they marked them as purely Horus Heresy models and not 40k cross over kits.

Well, there is the Warhammer 40k logo on the bottom right of every box, but it is nice seeing Horus Heresy get the attention.

So has there been any reliable intelligence on whether Betrayal at Calth will be withdrawn from sale, and what (if anything) will replace it?

Yikes... those are not cheap.

I'm so glad I got a lot of tacticals before this farce of a release.

Ebay buy it nows from the Calth box set are under half the boxed prices GW has planned to release...

I was hoping for something a bit more than individual releases, jacked up in price. Like plastic Assault Marines, or Outriders. Stuff that every Legion has access to. Specific legion stuff (e.g. Red Butchers) would probably be FW only.

 Lord Fishface wrote:
So has there been any reliable intelligence on whether Betrayal at Calth will be withdrawn from sale, and what (if anything) will replace it?

Not that I'm aware of. Forge World still have the Task Forces for sale that include BaC, GW direct still have BaC, third parties still have BaC, the GW mailshot today advertised BaC - it doesn't really look like it's going anywhere.

Why do I get the idea that these separate boxes only exist to show how good of a deal BaC is?

Do we have any word on what rules were included in the White Dwarf? Is it just literal reprints of the rules from Angels of Death? Anything useful for BA, DA, or SW?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Why do I get the idea that these separate boxes only exist to show how good of a deal BaC is?

I thought that too but the money spent on shipping these individual boxes out to stores would be far greater than money made in the slight slight increase in BaC sales. If that is their strategy then GW has already returned to their brain damaged market strategies.

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Why do I get the idea that these separate boxes only exist to show how good of a deal BaC is?

I thought that too but the money spent on shipping these individual boxes out to stores would be far greater than money made in the slight slight increase in BaC sales. If that is their strategy then GW has already returned to their brain damaged market strategies.

They will probably still get a sucker or two to buy them.

Between these and the minimal-savings flyer game, I am afraid we are going to start seeing Start Collecting boxes that are a Clampack and a Basic Troops for $5 savings.

These boxes could be more for people who just want, say, the Terminators. If I want to build a unit of Fulmentarii, it would be cheaper to drop 140 on two boxes of Terminstors than 360 for two BACs.

Sure, if I'm going to use everything out of BAC it's not a good idea to buy them separately. But, if you are a schmuck like me who owns 4 BACs, you don't really need more power armour.

 Crazyterran wrote:
These boxes could be more for people who just want, say, the Terminators. If I want to build a unit of Fulmentarii, it would be cheaper to drop 140 on two boxes of Terminstors than 360 for two BACs.

Sure, if I'm going to use everything out of BAC it's not a good idea to buy them separately. But, if you are a schmuck like me who owns 4 BACs, you don't really need more power armour.

I plan on getting two boxes of BaC to make my HH Era Imperial Fists. I wish they had done Tartaros instead of Cataphractii for BaC though, since they are similar technologies.