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Should have just redone these instead of inventing centurions.

Regarding the pinhead Marines thing, that's actually where human evolution is headed according to current trends in real life. Our heads are getting smaller and smaller as generations go on. And apparently biologists don't really know why.

 Pouncey wrote:
Regarding the pinhead Marines thing, that's actually where human evolution is headed according to current trends in real life. Our heads are getting smaller and smaller as generations go on. And apparently biologists don't really know why.

Well it's more the marine would be stupid to have a large head given the size of the amour he's wearing too.

I like the bomb squig picture. It's pretty orky, if I do say so myself.

 n0t_u wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
Regarding the pinhead Marines thing, that's actually where human evolution is headed according to current trends in real life. Our heads are getting smaller and smaller as generations go on. And apparently biologists don't really know why.

Well it's more the marine would be stupid to have a large head given the size of the amour he's wearing too.

And I'm saying that humans in general might just have heads that small by the time we get to the 41st millennium...

This one.
I... it is so, so terrible.

The marine in the front needs some help with his neck! The helmet looks TERRIBLE.
The one in the back seems to be missing a leg. At least the proportions in general look possible, but still...

 Warpig1815 wrote:
This:

I love this one. 4th edition memories!

 Pouncey wrote:

 n0t_u wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
Regarding the pinhead Marines thing, that's actually where human evolution is headed according to current trends in real life. Our heads are getting smaller and smaller as generations go on. And apparently biologists don't really know why.

Well it's more the marine would be stupid to have a large head given the size of the amour he's wearing too.

And I'm saying that humans in general might just have heads that small by the time we get to the 41st millennium...

Well that would explain the state of human intelligence in M41...

The new Wulfen still give me nightmares, but this artwork takes the cake.

My reaction:

'Those Chaos Marauders are pretty nice.'

'Wait, what's with the faces?'

 n0t_u wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
Regarding the pinhead Marines thing, that's actually where human evolution is headed according to current trends in real life. Our heads are getting smaller and smaller as generations go on. And apparently biologists don't really know why.

Well it's more the marine would be stupid to have a large head given the size of the amour he's wearing too.

Yeah, I agree, marine heads should be proportionally more small compared to their body than say, a normal human, but that size should at least be kind of consistent!


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 n0t_u wrote:


Should have just redone these instead of inventing centurions.

Ohhh, this is good, 5th element terminators


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 Xathrodox86 wrote:
The new Wulfen still give me nightmares, but this artwork takes the cake.

I hate what's happened to space wolves over the last 15 years so so soooo much. Like, I'm not happy as a 40k blood angels player, or a 40k player in general (I've jumped ship to 30k), but if I was a wolves player, I might even be more angry.


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 Xathrodox86 wrote:
The new Wulfen still give me nightmares, but this artwork takes the cake.

Oh yeah, that's miserable. Like, other than me hating the minis, and the fluff, and the rules, that artwork is the worst piece in this thread yet. I get that warcraft is popular, has been popular for a long time, and brought a bunch of nerdiness mainstream. EVERYTHING doesn't have to look like warcraft! (main reason I have zero interest in age of sigmar).

Kiddification of 40K continues unabated.

I'd rather have the pinhead SMs and weird old school drawings like the one with the terminators (see above) than the modern "let's appeal to the kiddies" crud. Half of it is sanitized and the other half is so silly that no amount of "it's weird and grim-dark future" hand waving will help it.

And if the rumors of "age of sigmar, 40k version" are true... we'll probably see even more of it, like an Angron model riding a giant boar from the EoT yelling "want to ride Oinker?!!!"

So I haven't seen a single decent critique of the artwork aside from "I don't like it because I don't like it". No one in this thread has said anything worse than "its bad",

 Gamgee wrote:
Every time someone says bad art this is all I can think. As for artwork from 40k I hate? I think In the Kauyon book the Ta'unar art is just ugly as sin. This is one picture in particular that looks like a bad anime drawing and I doesn't fit any 40k book or setting.

http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings

That comment hit it on the nose. That is some bad artwork. Poor proportions, stuff misplaced limbs, things that just straight up don't make sense. Look for conflicting art styles in the same image, unfinished art. I'm sure everyone saw the whole "40k stuff in comic books" recently. That was bad artwork. The tau ships were obviously out of place in the comic.
Everything posted has been good finished artwork that can be appreciated in it's own right, and just about all of it has had someone say that they like it.

Stop liking stuff you don't like, and find something that you think is legitimately bad. The only reason people don't like that wulfen artwork is because it isn't all super gritty and is artwork of a unit they think is silly. It isn't bad art, its good art that you don't like.

That SW codex cover is some awesome work, and has some sweet detail. You have the blood claw missing his helmet because he took a shot to the head, and you can see the dent in the helmet and the wound on his head. Nice attention to detail that tells a story is awesome, and that is why it was a codex cover.

To finish this rant, "kiddification"? Look at the old John Blanche 40k art. Stuff was insane crazy, it's changed a lot to keep up with what the majority of people like. It moved away from that style and people said "get off my lawn!" and now it is doing it again and you are saying "get off my lawn!" 40k is just appealing to the new generations to hook them while they are young. Just accept it, the artwork isn't going to be as grimdark as it was in the past, oh well.

Have to disagree with you Gwarsh. Art is not inherently good, nor bad. It's entirely up to the viewer/customer. As such I can categorically state a piece of art is bad when/where I feel like.

I come from an artsy background, and it's entirely just to provide your opinion on art. That's all it is.

This thread is about the "worst" 40K art and it wasn't stated "show us stuff which is technically wrong (ie. missing limbs etc.)" but the "worst". It can be my worst. Your worst. Etc.

 gwarsh41 wrote:
So I haven't seen a single decent critique of the artwork aside from "I don't like it because I don't like it". No one in this thread has said anything worse than "its bad",

 Gamgee wrote:
Every time someone says bad art this is all I can think. As for artwork from 40k I hate? I think In the Kauyon book the Ta'unar art is just ugly as sin. This is one picture in particular that looks like a bad anime drawing and I doesn't fit any 40k book or setting.

http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings

That comment hit it on the nose. That is some bad artwork. Poor proportions, stuff misplaced limbs, things that just straight up don't make sense. Look for conflicting art styles in the same image, unfinished art. I'm sure everyone saw the whole "40k stuff in comic books" recently. That was bad artwork. The tau ships were obviously out of place in the comic.
Everything posted has been good finished artwork that can be appreciated in it's own right, and just about all of it has had someone say that they like it.

Stop liking stuff you don't like, and find something that you think is legitimately bad. The only reason people don't like that wulfen artwork is because it isn't all super gritty and is artwork of a unit they think is silly. It isn't bad art, its good art that you don't like.

That SW codex cover is some awesome work, and has some sweet detail. You have the blood claw missing his helmet because he took a shot to the head, and you can see the dent in the helmet and the wound on his head. Nice attention to detail that tells a story is awesome, and that is why it was a codex cover.

To finish this rant, "kiddification"? Look at the old John Blanche 40k art. Stuff was insane crazy, it's changed a lot to keep up with what the majority of people like. It moved away from that style and people said "get off my lawn!" and now it is doing it again and you are saying "get off my lawn!" 40k is just appealing to the new generations to hook them while they are young. Just accept it, the artwork isn't going to be as grimdark as it was in the past, oh well.

Some of them have been legit art critiques, such as the one where the guy's knee was at a 90 degree angle to his body, or the guy with no legs. I do agree the kiddification aspect is dumb.

OT, I always hated the beaky helmets. I think it's a lame helmet, as it offers no tactical advantage (imagine trying to aim down a scope with that big schnoz) and just makes them look like a Big Bird merged with Storm Troopers.

I personally love the MkVI helmet...for whatever reason. I mean, surely it's a bit more aerodynamic for assault marines yeah?

 Elbows wrote:
I personally love the MkVI helmet...for whatever reason. I mean, surely it's a bit more aerodynamic for assault marines yeah?

Is the Hammer of Wrath from driving their beak into the enemy?

I don't even know what Hammer of Wrath is, but I'll simply say yes. 100%.

Since miniature painting is an artform, Ima stretch the definition of this thread:



Oh god why ;_;

 Elbows wrote:


This thread is about the "worst" 40K art and it wasn't stated "show us stuff which is technically wrong (ie. missing limbs etc.)" but the "worst". It can be my worst. Your worst. Etc.

Exactly. This isn't an art class. I'm just trying to have some yucks here. Like, I LIKE the bomb squig, but my friend's reaction was so immediate and visceral I started cracking up.

I also JUST remembered that these are things that exist:

http://www.somethingawful.com/dungeons-and-dragons/wtf-warhammer-40k/1/

http://www.somethingawful.com/dungeons-and-dragons/mordheim-warhammer-art/1/

http://www.somethingawful.com/dungeons-and-dragons/wtf-rogue-trader/1/

http://www.somethingawful.com/dungeons-and-dragons/rogue-trader-returns/1/

I think the mkVI looks really sinister and used it for a squad of renegade chaos space marines in one of my armies! Mk6 for everyone, except the melta guys and aspiring champion, who got MK8 because they were too important to die.

 Selym wrote:
Since miniature painting is an artform, Ima stretch the definition of this thread:

Spoiler:

Oh god why ;_;

Personally I don't see what's so bad about these...after all, this is what sells on ebay as "professionally painted"! ...ugh...

I'ts really late here and I am too tired to browse for gak work. But atm I can't think of more disturbing artwork than this masterpiece depicting Imperial Knights during the Heresy Era. That "gem" I found recently was from Wikipedia (source of what rule book/slate or w/e was this made for is unknown to me):

That's definitely old school, likely 80's or early 90's. Probably from one of the Titanicus initial game rule books etc.

 Elbows wrote:
That's definitely old school, likely 80's or early 90's. Probably from one of the Titanicus initial game rule books etc.

Or Rogue Trader.

Sadly I find this art way better than what the new art GW has now.

Most stuff by John blanche IMHO his ideas are great and they make great design studies but most of them are just unfinished sketches

I think my vote goes towards all the old cover art that tried to make a battle mural with a disastrous color scheme. Don't get me wrong I love color over gritty dark grimdark but the vibrant hues hurt my eyes.



Those poor space marines are packed in like sardines! Whats the point of making them swarm like that if you're only going to give definition to the first row, and make the rest a colored blur? I'd like to at least see what they're fighting.

Don't even get me started on Brother-Captain Lockjaw. Are his elbows bolted to his chest? Who taught him how to hold a sword? His humongous feet remind me of old League of Legends models.



Exhibit B: Man even as a fan of the gargant design I hate this picture. Would it be that hard to draw them shooting at each other? I mean you can do that without obscuring detail, you don't have to have them face the camera. And yeesh the tanks behind the warlord's foot. Theres either crystal clear and vibrant things in the picture, or blurry silhouette. No blending of the foreground and background at all (my biggest problem with these old arts). It literally looks like they're fighting in front of a mural of blue trash.

I mean, this art did inspire me to get into 40k. I'm not going to lie about that. Its got enough cool elements that its easy to see why so many people liked it. But I cannot say that its good art. Seriously go back at look at all the art of deformed clown-marines fighting enemies they aren't even looking at. Its not pretty.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Most stuff by John blanche IMHO his ideas are great and they make great design studies but most of them are just unfinished sketches

Isn't that the point though? John Blanche is every hobbyist's concept artist, putting out a bunch of crazy ideas for us to incorporate in to our own models?

nareik wrote:

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Most stuff by John blanche IMHO his ideas are great and they make great design studies but most of them are just unfinished sketches

Isn't that the point though? John Blanche is every hobbyist's concept artist, putting out a bunch of crazy ideas for us to incorporate in to our own models?

Not if it is used as cover art and artwork

 Xathrodox86 wrote:
The new Wulfen still give me nightmares, but this artwork takes the cake.