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Really amazing paint job on Eldrad.
GWs painters of late can be hit or miss but thats one big hit

*oops**

Wachaza wrote:
*oops**

What I just said when I clicked "checkout" lol.

I think I might need someone in the US that wants the Harlequins side of this boxed set...

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Most of the UK stockists are mentioning that they've got strictly limited copies of Death Masque (at least in the first instance)

so if you've got to have it on release day get your orders in fast (and hope GW doesn't short anybody)

Supposedly the UK preorder sold out in 25 minutes. I was talking about it with my (Canadian) GW manager today. I told him flat out I was buying one, so it's not like he was trying to scare me into getting it either.

Honestly, I've had a plan for a couple of years to make a "counts-as Sternguard" Deathwatch kill-team for my Crimson Fists. Mechanically and fluff wise it just seemed like it would work, I just never got around to buying the old upgrade sprue. Now I'm happy I waited. This excites me on so many levels.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I think I might need someone in the US that wants the Harlequins side of this boxed set...

Good luck. I suppose Harlequins will become the cheapest 40k army now. Harlequin players will buy the box and get a good price for the DW. Vice versa? Well...

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I think I might need someone in the US that wants the Harlequins side of this boxed set...

Good luck. I suppose Harlequins will become the cheapest 40k army now. Harlequin players will buy the box and get a good price for the DW. Vice versa? Well...

Yeah, that is what I figured. I am going to see if anyone in my gaming club wants to make a deal.

PM me, I may take the pointy ears off yer hands, Cas

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
PM me, I may take the pointy ears off yer hands, Cas

PM sent! Hopefully we can make a deal.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mantle wrote:

Cephalobeard wrote:
Do we know the loadoats for Naked DW Veterans?

If they come with power swords stock then awesome but if not modelling bare veterans without buying a standard stern guard squad is going to look a bit shabby and you miss out on the cool looking deathwatch bolt guns and the elbow plates without some converting.

Why would you need a Sternguard Squad for bare Veterans?

No two handing bolters in the kit unless you want a clenched fist around a cut off power sword and everyone holding their bolters one handed or do the veterans come with power swords stock?

EDIT: I would personally go for sternguard over normal marines for the fancier bolters but standard marines would obviously work

 Mantle wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mantle wrote:

Cephalobeard wrote:
Do we know the loadoats for Naked DW Veterans?

If they come with power swords stock then awesome but if not modelling bare veterans without buying a standard stern guard squad is going to look a bit shabby and you miss out on the cool looking deathwatch bolt guns and the elbow plates without some converting.

Why would you need a Sternguard Squad for bare Veterans?

No two handing bolters in the kit unless you want a clenched fist around a cut off power sword and everyone holding their bolters one handed or do the veterans come with power swords stock?

EDIT: I would personally go for sternguard over normal marines for the fancier bolters but standard marines would obviously work

Wait, the standard Deathwatch Veteran kit has no two-handed Bolters?

Crap - still no sign of preorders for us over here in Korea.

 Mymearan wrote:

 Mantle wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mantle wrote:

Cephalobeard wrote:
Do we know the loadoats for Naked DW Veterans?

If they come with power swords stock then awesome but if not modelling bare veterans without buying a standard stern guard squad is going to look a bit shabby and you miss out on the cool looking deathwatch bolt guns and the elbow plates without some converting.

Why would you need a Sternguard Squad for bare Veterans?

No two handing bolters in the kit unless you want a clenched fist around a cut off power sword and everyone holding their bolters one handed or do the veterans come with power swords stock?

EDIT: I would personally go for sternguard over normal marines for the fancier bolters but standard marines would obviously work

Wait, the standard Deathwatch Veteran kit has no two-handed Bolters?

That's right which is rather annoying because those power swords are going to make the unit rather expensive and means converting extra stalker bolters that aren't in mid reload or trying to snipe one handed a bit more expensive too

You could maybe convert two-handed bolters using the shotgun arms, as from the looks of it the shotguns are separate.

The hands are half on the shotgun and half on the arms, also I think the shotgun is longer that a standard bolter and deathwatch bolters are shorter themselves plus you only get one shotgun in the kit

If you have spare arms from any number of Marine kits I think you'd be okay just using those. Yeah they'd be missing that weird disc-shaped thing on the arms of the Marine, but the silver color is more important than that for the Deathwatch look I feel.

 Brother SRM wrote:
If you have spare arms from any number of Marine kits I think you'd be okay just using those. Yeah they'd be missing that weird disc-shaped thing on the arms of the Marine, but the silver color is more important than that for the Deathwatch look I feel.

All of the Vanguard Veterans are set up that way, so I don't see a problem with that.

Makes my OCD flare up haha but yeah this is why I said the bolters and arms from sternguard would probably be my choice plus there's a whole load of nice bits to personalise your guys a bit more, I'm loving the idea of a kill team with stalker bolters lead by a ravenguard sergeant

The kit comes with 5 bolters and 5 power swords so that ought to be default equipment. At 110 for 5 that puts them the same price as grey knights, trading psychic powers and storm bolters for specialist ammo.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
The kit comes with 5 bolters and 5 power swords so that ought to be default equipment. At 110 for 5 that puts them the same price as grey knights, trading psychic powers and storm bolters for specialist ammo.

Except Iuchiban said nothing about power swords.

 Brother SRM wrote:
If you have spare arms from any number of Marine kits I think you'd be okay just using those. Yeah they'd be missing that weird disc-shaped thing on the arms of the Marine, but the silver color is more important than that for the Deathwatch look I feel.

The instructions for the Death Masque set have you put together the Vanguard Vets with standard arms and the DW shoulder pads from the upgrade sprue, so it's not like they don't expect you to do that anyway.

A first unboxing

http://www.thedarkcity.net/t14219p75-more-eldar-love-and-a-place-for-the-eldrad-sprue

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Late to the party here, but that is just beautiful.

Warhams-77 wrote:
A first unboxing

http://www.thedarkcity.net/t14219p75-more-eldar-love-and-a-place-for-the-eldrad-sprue

Yeah, some interesting reading in there.

Now THAT is how you make special versions of units more usable. I hope that is the case for Watch Captain Artemis as well.

Ephemeral. One of my favorite words. And also a good special rule.

 Verviedi wrote:
Ephemeral. One of my favorite words. And also a good special rule.

Also just "feels right" for a representation of the holo-trickery employed by Harlequins.

Warhams-77 wrote:
A first unboxing

http://www.thedarkcity.net/t14219p75-more-eldar-love-and-a-place-for-the-eldrad-sprue

That actually adds some pretty cool options for Harlie players, given that you can use the named characters in place of units in our existing formations and get their bonuses on top of the formation bonuses.

I'd like to see the stat-lines, too, though, in case they're any better.

So has anyone made a list of the chapters that the shoulder pads could belong to? as I know some of the icons are re used in different colors for some other chapters.

The unit stats for Eldrad/Harlies haven't changed according to Iuchiban.