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They don't look much bigger than the DW I made using assault marine legs.

Vanguards are just normal Vanguards, they're not bigger. Normal DW look bigger though.

Looks like it's just a posing thing to me, the BaC one is more squat than the Deathwatch marine. Other than that I'd say they're the 'same size,' because why would the GW we know not try and maximize sales of their other marine kits by changing the scale on the Deathwatch?

Looks like they've got a piece of blue tac in where the legs seat into the torso parts to me, as well as a posing thing. As far as scale goes they don't look any bigger than normal marines to me.

They're not so much bigger, maybe just a bit bulkier. I've assembled and primed 50 deathwatch over the past two days and the DW veterans don't stand out in the crowd at all.

On the note of scale creep the old dw bolters look so cute and tiny in new hands.

The Deathwatch dudes are taller because they're standing up straight instead of squatting like standard Marine models. Same with the Vanguard vets and assault Marines.

Are the vehicles limited release?

 Mymearan wrote:
Are the vehicles limited release?

Probably.

It's likely a splash release, then them being repacked afterwards.

I wonder if we will get a Start Collecting Deathwatch and Start Collecting Harlequins out of this. They could do them fairly easily without stepping on the toes of the Death Masque box, I am sure.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder if we will get a Start Collecting Deathwatch and Start Collecting Harlequins out of this. They could do them fairly easily without stepping on the toes of the Death Masque box, I am sure.

Expansion sets ala Dark Vengeance would be great.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder if we will get a Start Collecting Deathwatch and Start Collecting Harlequins out of this. They could do them fairly easily without stepping on the toes of the Death Masque box, I am sure.

I would imagine they will come after Death Masque becomes unavailable.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder if we will get a Start Collecting Deathwatch and Start Collecting Harlequins out of this. They could do them fairly easily without stepping on the toes of the Death Masque box, I am sure.

Unless they added another set of deathwatch veterans it's a better savings to split the death masque box with an eldar player while they're still in production. After that, the set as a start collecting would make sense.


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Lol triple quote.

I really wish they had done Death Masque the way they did Shadow Force Solaq and whatever the Tau one was called. Separate boxes for the same campaign. Then there would be no need for a Start Collecting for either.

I got my box today. I am a bit disappointed my rule book came a bit damaged. Nothing too overwhelming terrible but if GW wants to be known for "premium products" that are sold at premium prices then I expect a little better.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
I got my box today. I am a bit disappointed my rule book came a bit damaged. Nothing too overwhelming terrible but if GW wants to be known for "premium products" that are sold at premium prices then I expect a little better.

How was it damaged?

They are pretty much number one for replacing with no quibbles. If it's damaged give them a shout and you'll get a new one sent, or knowing how they sometimes are a whole new set! I once complained about a missing head on an Ork Warbike sprue and they sent me SIX WHOLE WARBIKES as replacement. Fanks Gee Dubs!

I once had a LRBT hull that didn't quite fit. Free Russ for me within the week. Fixed the hull issue with warm water and elastic bands and ended up 2-for-1. Just don't abuse it. Much as I hate GW.

pm713 wrote:

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
I got my box today. I am a bit disappointed my rule book came a bit damaged. Nothing too overwhelming terrible but if GW wants to be known for "premium products" that are sold at premium prices then I expect a little better.

How was it damaged?

Got the same Problem: RB which lies on top has the first few Pages cracked beneath the foil and the whole right edge ist damaged. The foil itself has some small holes in it. I think the packing machine caused this whole Issue.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
Are the vehicles limited release?

Probably.

It's likely a splash release, then them being repacked afterwards.

My suspicion is that after a while, these Deathwatch Land Raider and Deathwatch Transport boxes will be phased out, and so will the existing Land Raider, Land Raider Crusader, Rhino and Razorback boxes They'll be replaced by a Land Raider box which contains all three variants, and a Space Marine Transport box.

Pyrosphere wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
I got my box today. I am a bit disappointed my rule book came a bit damaged. Nothing too overwhelming terrible but if GW wants to be known for "premium products" that are sold at premium prices then I expect a little better.

How was it damaged?

Got the same Problem: RB which lies on top has the first few Pages cracked beneath the foil and the whole right edge ist damaged. The foil itself has some small holes in it. I think the packing machine caused this whole Issue.

This exactly what happened with my rulebook.

I bought my box from a FLGS and not GW. Would they still do anything to help me out?

GW has the best customer service - I bet if you email them with photos they will get you a fixed one.

stormboy wrote:
GW has the best customer service - I bet if you email them with photos they will get you a fixed one.

They may ask for an order number - bring it up with the FLGS first.

A suitably converted dread knight could.look awesome with the deathwatch. I'm really tempted to try it.

My small rule book was damaged as well. Very creased and the page edges were wavy. "glad" it wasn't just mine, though it does suck for people. That and they didn't ship those dice with my order. I'll Chime in tomorrow after I call about these issues(rule book in particular for this thread) and let people know if they plan on doing anything about the issue.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Perhaps they had some "envy" issues with the Stormcast?

Scale creep is a bit of thing with Gw these days.

Bet you a dollar any actual size increase is minimal if you measure point-to-point on both(ie foot to knee, knee to hip, waist to eye etc).

The Vanguard Veteran kit is three years old and the Deathwatch Veteran is the same height as it. I stood my VVs next to several other marines I have and the height difference is minimal if non-existant. Perhaps the BaC Marines are SHORT.

looking at the pre-orders, the Terminus Ultra Captain is "only" $25...
interesting price point, considering that the two Termie Librarians are $30 and $31, while the BA Termie Captain is $33...
the DW Termie Captain even comes with an extra sprue, just for the one pad...

the old school power armor Captain didn't go up in price, either, so they are throwing in the DW accessory sprue for free...
nice to see an old re-issue not including a price rise...

cheers
jah

 conker249 wrote:
My small rule book was damaged as well. Very creased and the page edges were wavy. "glad" it wasn't just mine, though it does suck for people. That and they didn't ship those dice with my order. I'll Chime in tomorrow after I call about these issues(rule book in particular for this thread) and let people know if they plan on doing anything about the issue.

Mine was damaged as well! The edges were all bent and tattered all along the book. The rest was fine, but the corners and edges are all messed up.

 jah-joshua wrote:
looking at the pre-orders, the Terminus Ultra Captain is "only" $25...
interesting price point, considering that the two Termie Librarians are $30 and $31, while the BA Termie Captain is $33...
the DW Termie Captain even comes with an extra sprue, just for the one pad...

the old school power armor Captain didn't go up in price, either, so they are throwing in the DW accessory sprue for free...
nice to see an old re-issue not including a price rise...
GW
cheers
jah

Yup. I will be getting him and the regular Captain kit for acquisition of the upgrade sprue and for more bodies.