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Maybe you could check the superior attitude and learn to spot Humour when it's happening?
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
It does, it's a funny thing Kronk said, not actual laugh out loud funny, but perfectly functional. The failure here is not in the telling, but I'm not here to tell people what to laugh at.
Perhaps a little common sense might help though, or did you really think Kronk read that sentence and then just stopped reading?
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Azreal13 wrote: It does, it's a funny thing Kronk said, not actual laugh out loud funny, but perfectly functional. The failure here is not in the telling, but I'm not here to tell people what to laugh at.
Perhaps a little common sense might help though, or did you really think Kronk read that sentence and then just stopped reading?
It doesn't work because the joke is about asking someone to describe an interesting situation further, and the situation already was described further.
Also, people ceasing to read a post after one sentence is not all that uncommon in my experience. I've even had a person I was talking to about 20 minutes ago on another forum not read parts of a post that came before the part they replied to.
He was asking about boobs. When he said "tell me more" he was interested to hear about the boobs, because boobs are cool. D cups being that much cooler than many other cup sizes for a lot of people. Even those that aren't that bothered might make that sort of comment because..
Spoiler:
Are you doing this on purpose? It would really help to know if you were.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
He was asking about boobs. When he said "tell me more" he was interested to hear about the boobs, because boobs are cool. D cups being that much cooler than many other cup sizes for a lot of people. Even those that aren't that bothered might make that sort of comment because..
Spoiler:
Are you doing this on purpose? It would really help to know if you were.
Warwick, Warwickshire, England, UK, NW Europe, Sol-3, Western Spiral Arm, Milky Way
To return to the concept of plastic Sisters of Battle:
A 10 figure box with two of each special weapon would make Celestians, Dominions and basic Sisters.
A 5 figure box with four of each heavy weapon (or two of each, more likely) would make Retributors.
A clampack Canoness.
A 5 figure Command Squad set that gives you extra parts for Imagifers, Banner Bearers, Hospitallers and Dialogus.
A 5 figure Seraphim set, with options for inferno pistols and hand flamers.
A 10 figure Repentia set, perhaps in Finecast?
A retooling of the Immolator, boxed with parts to make Rhinos and Repressors. Call it the "Sisters of Battle Transport"
A plastic Exorcist.
That's, what, two vehicle boxes, five figure boxes and a clampack.
Compare/contrast to the Deathwatch: two boxed games, three clampack characters, a Kill-Team box, a Vanguard box, a flyer, a Land Raider, a Rhino/Razorback, and a Dreadnought. This doesn't include the more expensive £40-50 sets like the Venator Kill-Team.
Gen.Steiner wrote: To return to the concept of plastic Sisters of Battle:
A 10 figure box with two of each special weapon would make Celestians, Dominions and basic Sisters.
A 5 figure box with four of each heavy weapon (or two of each, more likely) would make Retributors.
A clampack Canoness.
A 5 figure Command Squad set that gives you extra parts for Imagifers, Banner Bearers, Hospitallers and Dialogus.
A 5 figure Seraphim set, with options for inferno pistols and hand flamers.
A 10 figure Repentia set, perhaps in Finecast?
A retooling of the Immolator, boxed with parts to make Rhinos and Repressors. Call it the "Sisters of Battle Transport"
A plastic Exorcist.
That's, what, two vehicle boxes, five figure boxes and a clampack.
Compare/contrast to the Deathwatch: two boxed games, three clampack characters, a Kill-Team box, a Vanguard box, a flyer, a Land Raider, a Rhino/Razorback, and a Dreadnought. This doesn't include the more expensive £40-50 sets like the Venator Kill-Team.
Ideally I would prefer Celestians to get their own kit with more ornate armor and weapons instead of having to rely on a different paint job to distinguish them, but I'll happily admit that it's not necessary for the first wave of plastic Sisters since the combined kit could contain some bits to be added specifically to Celestians, and even if we don't do that and stick with the paint job being the only difference it'll work just fine and save a Celestians kit to package along with a new Codex some years down the line when a Codex update becomes necessary.
Also a slight change I'd suggest is changing the Canoness to Canoness/Palatine, since I'd like to see the option of a Palatine HQ return to the Codex. The model can be the same though.
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Azreal13 wrote: It does, it's a funny thing Kronk said, not actual laugh out loud funny, but perfectly functional. The failure here is not in the telling, but I'm not here to tell people what to laugh at.
Perhaps a little common sense might help though, or did you really think Kronk read that sentence and then just stopped reading?
Pouncey was trying to stretch the joke out, which evidently failed.
As for Kronk's question, It was actually because at the time I did think they just got pancaked when the chest is binded and my friend wanted to show me just how they properly deformed. Apparently my art at the time was bad enough that she felt the need to do this. And no, it did not go anywhere after that in case you're wondering
Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do.
Warwick, Warwickshire, England, UK, NW Europe, Sol-3, Western Spiral Arm, Milky Way
Pouncey wrote: Ideally I would prefer Celestians to get their own kit with more ornate armor and weapons instead of having to rely on a different paint job to distinguish them, but I'll happily admit that it's not necessary for the first wave of plastic Sisters since the combined kit could contain some bits to be added specifically to Celestians, and even if we don't do that and stick with the paint job being the only difference it'll work just fine and save a Celestians kit to package along with a new Codex some years down the line when a Codex update becomes necessary.
Also a slight change I'd suggest is changing the Canoness to Canoness/Palatine, since I'd like to see the option of a Palatine HQ return to the Codex. The model can be the same though.
To be fair, they could do that for the Celestians by rolling the Celestian kit into the Command Squad. And I agree on the Palatine too!
Azreal13 wrote: It does, it's a funny thing Kronk said, not actual laugh out loud funny, but perfectly functional. The failure here is not in the telling, but I'm not here to tell people what to laugh at.
Perhaps a little common sense might help though, or did you really think Kronk read that sentence and then just stopped reading?
Pouncey was trying to stretch the joke out, which evidently failed.
As for Kronk's question, It was actually because at the time I did think they just got pancaked when the chest is binded and my friend wanted to show me just how they properly deformed. Apparently my art at the time was bad enough that she felt the need to do this. And no, it did not go anywhere after that in case you're wondering
What does "stretch the joke out" mean? I've never heard that metaphor, and if you mean "to keep the joke going" like I think it means, you could not be more wrong as to what I meant.
Also, lay off Pouncey. (S)he is a nice person and doesn't deserve any of your crap.
Thanks.
I've been accused of trolling on a lot of occasions, but often it seems to be when I have a unique perspective on something and my arguments are not actually being countered by what people are saying. It often turns out that I'm wrong, but it's not because I'm trying to stir up trouble, instead just that I think I'm right and no one's managed to point out how I'm actually wrong in a way I can understand as valid. When someone does manage to make it clear to me why my reasoning is wrong, I don't keep arguing.
Seriously, if I'm wrong about something, just find a way to explain why my reasoning is invalid and thus I am in fact wrong. All it takes to get me to stop arguing a point is to make me realize that that point is wrong.
However, regarding me being nice... I have actually said things to my partner at times which made him temporarily consider suicide. I'm not always nice. Usually I am, but I can be extremely cruel at times.
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I generally use my own way of expressing things in the most literal-minded way possible. I was thinking of the trope "Overly long gag".
Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do.
MechaEmperor7000 wrote: I generally use my own way of expressing things in the most literal-minded way possible. I was thinking of the trope "Overly long gag".
Given what I read on TV Tropes about that... no, that is not what I was doing in any way.
First off, those of you that can't take this seriously, and insist on derailing to be mean to each other or make snarky comments, need to stop before this thread gets closed. I actually want to hear what has to be said. Thanks.
Gen.Steiner wrote: To return to the concept of plastic Sisters of Battle:
A 10 figure box with two of each special weapon would make Celestians, Dominions and basic Sisters.
A 5 figure box with four of each heavy weapon (or two of each, more likely) would make Retributors.
A clampack Canoness.
A 5 figure Command Squad set that gives you extra parts for Imagifers, Banner Bearers, Hospitallers and Dialogus.
A 5 figure Seraphim set, with options for inferno pistols and hand flamers.
A 10 figure Repentia set, perhaps in Finecast?
A retooling of the Immolator, boxed with parts to make Rhinos and Repressors. Call it the "Sisters of Battle Transport"
A plastic Exorcist.
That's, what, two vehicle boxes, five figure boxes and a clampack.
Compare/contrast to the Deathwatch: two boxed games, three clampack characters, a Kill-Team box, a Vanguard box, a flyer, a Land Raider, a Rhino/Razorback, and a Dreadnought. This doesn't include the more expensive £40-50 sets like the Venator Kill-Team.
I like where you are going with this, but I think we should think about this in terms of sprues. Packaging is cheap, the real sunk cost is in the tooling. The Death Watch is only a three sprue release, not counting the boxed games (Artemis kill team). It consists of two sprues for a kill team and an upgrade frame. These are then packaged with pre-existing product. This makes sense from a financial standpoint because that doesn't seem like a lot of investment. To do the Sisters of Battle would be much more cost heavy.
In reality they could do it in 10 sprues
Celestians and Command squad would share a box (two sprues).
Dominions, Sisters, and Retributors would share a set of sprues (however they package them). They could do a single sprue with 5 sisters and a single sprue with 2 each of the heavy weapons. Then, for Sisters boxes, put in two of the sisters sprues and one heavy weapon sprue. For the retributors, 2 heavy weapon, 1 sister (two more sprues, four total).
They would then need to do something with Seraphim. They would almost certainly release a new unit in conjunction with retooling Seraphim in plastic. Possibly something close combat oriented with power swords or what not. This would probably need 3 sprues because those jet packs are bulky (three more, seven total).
Then we have the repentia. They would probably leave these finecast (are they finecast and not metal? I haven't bought any in ages), so we won't count them.
Penitent Engines would get a double unit release in plastic. I'm not sure how many sprues this would cost. Maybe two of the big ones? (two more, nine total).
The vehicles shouldn't be a problem unless they want to add more variety. It would take a single sprue that was well designed to combine the exorcist and immolator. The only problem would be if they wanted to add Repressors, which I don't think they should as that's more of an Arbites thing. (one new sprue, ten total).
Then we get into adding new units and such. This would become even more intensive. In the end though, it would be a VERY big release. The dark eldar were bigger, but that's the scale we're looking at.
The other problem would be shelf space.
Edit: Numbers and such
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Warwick, Warwickshire, England, UK, NW Europe, Sol-3, Western Spiral Arm, Milky Way
I absolutely agree. I think that any future Sisters release would need to be as big as the 2005 Dark Eldar release, partly to make up for 13 years (or more) of negative model support.
And I think that it would pay off, too - look how popular the Dark Eldar became!
Darthslowe wrote: I like where you are going with this, but I think we should think about this in terms of sprues. Packaging is cheap, the real sunk cost is in the tooling. The Death Watch is only a three sprue release, not counting the boxed games (Artemis kill team). It consists of two sprues for a kill team and an upgrade frame. These are then packaged with pre-existing product. This makes sense from a financial standpoint because that doesn't seem like a lot of investment. To do the Sisters of Battle would be much more cost heavy.
In reality they could do it in 10 sprues
Celestians and Command squad would share a box (two sprues).
Dominions, Sisters, and Retributors would share a set of sprues (however they package them). They could do a single sprue with 5 sisters and a single sprue with 2 each of the heavy weapons. Then, for Sisters boxes, put in two of the sisters sprues and one heavy weapon sprue. For the retributors, 2 heavy weapon, 1 sister (two more sprues, four total).
They would then need to do something with Seraphim. They would almost certainly release a new unit in conjunction with retooling Seraphim in plastic. Possibly something close combat oriented with power swords or what not. This would probably need 3 sprues because those jet packs are bulky (three more, seven total).
Then we have the repentia. They would probably leave these finecast (are they finecast and not metal? I haven't bought any in ages), so we won't count them.
Penitent Engines would get a double unit release in plastic. I'm not sure how many sprues this would cost. Maybe two of the big ones? (two more, nine total).
The vehicles shouldn't be a problem unless they want to add more variety. It would take a single sprue that was well designed to combine the exorcist and immolator. The only problem would be if they wanted to add Repressors, which I don't think they should as that's more of an Arbites thing. (one new sprue, ten total).
Then we get into adding new units and such. This would become even more intensive. In the end though, it would be a VERY big release. The dark eldar were bigger, but that's the scale we're looking at.
The other problem would be shelf space.
Edit: Numbers and such
Am I correct to assume the Heavy Weapons sprue for the Retributors would also include special weapons for Dominions?
In regards to Finecast, all Sororitas models are still metal, none have ever been changed to Finecast.
And shelf space isn't really a huge issue, since they have to deal with that every time they release a new army that didn't have models on the shelves before. We're not talking about a huge number of new boxes having to go on the shelves, they could probably find space for them like they did for the Mechanicus, Imperial Knights and every new kit that doesn't make another kit go out of production.
Other than that I fully agree.
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Oh, sure. I figure it wouldn't be hard to fit two each of heavy bolters, multi-meltas, and heavy flamers on the same sprue as two or three each of meltaguns, flamers, and storm bolters.
From what I've seen of Sisters, one sprue could have the bodies, legs, heads, arms, and maybe the bolters. Another would have the special and heavy weapons.
Sisters benefit from having a rather limited selection of weaponry for an imperial army.
Darthslowe wrote: Oh, sure. I figure it wouldn't be hard to fit two each of heavy bolters, multi-meltas, and heavy flamers on the same sprue as two or three each of meltaguns, flamers, and storm bolters.
From what I've seen of Sisters, one sprue could have the bodies, legs, heads, arms, and maybe the bolters. Another would have the special and heavy weapons.
Sisters benefit from having a rather limited selection of weaponry for an imperial army.
Okay. : D
I just wanted to be absolutely clear on the subject since you hadn't actually mentioned special weapons yet, only heavy ones, and it's not like people with no clue about Sororitas haven't offered opinions on them before. Not saying you're clueless about them, just that I don't know anything about you and thus it was not something I was able to exclude as a possibility.
And if Sisters do end up getting more weapons in the future (since they do use non-bolter/melta/flamer weapons on occasion), I guess they could either make those bits as a conversion kit, or preferably roll them into the standard kits if, as we all hope that this hypothetical update will make happen, Sororitas are doing well enough to be completely worth supporting with a full range of models and units.
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Gen.Steiner wrote: Just to go back to the Repentia, one of my favourite bits of Sisters art is the double-page spread in Codex: Witchhunters with the battle cathedral and the puritan-hat-Inquisitor ... and the naked Repentia with sheets of confessions (?) pinned to them - and, in one case, pins through the eyes. This level of self-mutilation and death-wish-lunacy is something that the figures don't really portray, but it would be awesome to see. Doubt it'll happen outside of a third-party company though.
Pins... through the eyes...
I might need to glue those two pages together so I can never see that, because I never noticed that and now I might not be able to resist looking for it.
Yeah! Pins through the eyes. And there's another Repentia whose eyes are covered in a parchment 'bandage' with blood pouring down her cheeks, running forwards with one hand on the shoulder of the one in front.
See?
Ahah I love those repentia too, best depiction of the repentia ever. It really conveys the horror that they represent, rather than looking like BDSM.
You may notice that the two sentences after the part they quoted and said to, "Go on..." were 100% about those D-cup boobs.
Ahah I like you .
Also, have you maybe considered that you might have some mental difference that makes you think differently from most people? I heard some people have differences that makes them understand sentences literally even when they are meant and understood by most people much more figuratively, maybe Asperger or something?
(And I do not mean any of this in any kind of pejorative way, of course.)
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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I'm hoping for a box similar to the GK Strike Squad where they cram all of the options onto the sprues. Since Sisters won't need five variants of Nemesis Weapons per model there should be more than enough space to fit 10 bodies onto the same amount of sprues while having enough options to make Dominion Squads, Have Icons, make a single sister into a Hospitaler and another into a sergeant, and so forth. I think the only other set they would need is one for Seraphims (for wings and dual pistols), one for Repentia and a few clampacks for characters and we should be honky-dory for the infantry.
What I'm really hoping for is a combination Immolator/Repressor plastic Kit, a three-pack set for Penitent engines like the Killa-Kanz, the Aquilla Fighter in a plastic kit for their flyer and the Exorcist kit with a second option of a new tank of some sort in plastic as well.
Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Ahah I like you .
Also, have you maybe considered that you might have some mental difference that makes you think differently from most people? I heard some people have differences that makes them understand sentences literally even when they are meant and understood by most people much more figuratively, maybe Asperger or something?
(And I do not mean any of this in any kind of pejorative way, of course.)
Yes I have, and the possibility that my mind is functioning differently than most people's, coupled with how much more often it seems to be happening recently, is more terrifying than I'm willing to admit to myself.
Because I actually do have such a difference in my mind, and that difference is that I have schizophrenia and 99% of all humans do not. And I've been missing more and more doses of meds over the past few years, to the point where my family doctor and a psychiatrist have both concluded that some of my symptoms are coming back.
And schizophrenia is a mental illness that someone once said to me typically ends one of two ways. Either the patient takes their meds compliantly and ends up living the rest of their long, long life on welfare due to still being too crippled to actually hold a job, or they reject the meds and end up having a psychotic break serious enough to require the police to shoot and kill them.
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Based on how they handled Grey Knights and the Skitarii (and the Deathwatch, for that matter) I'd expect a single power-armoured Sisters kit (three special and three heavy weapons instead of three special guns and multiple main weapon options for each model) and a separate Seraphim kit, Repentia to remain in Finecast, and a tank kit. Penitent Engines in plastic and a plastic Celestian/command squad kit are less likely.
Warwick, Warwickshire, England, UK, NW Europe, Sol-3, Western Spiral Arm, Milky Way
Pouncey wrote: And schizophrenia is a mental illness that someone once said to me typically ends one of two ways. Either the patient takes their meds compliantly and ends up living the rest of their long, long life on welfare due to still being too crippled to actually hold a job, or they reject the meds and end up having a psychotic break serious enough to require the police to shoot and kill them.
Well ... I hope you get to live a long life on welfare, because that's frankly better than getting shot dead...
As for Sisters, why do they need a plane? They don't need a plane. The Imperial Navy has planes. Not the Ecclesiarchy.
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