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 pongo50 wrote:
Define burned - I have been in on all the Deadzone/Warpath KS and I have not been disapointed, Excellent value for price!

I guess the big one was that Mantic promised to ship Royal Mail. They shipped B2C/DHL anyway and I spent more on shipping and duties than my pledge was worth.

They also simply ignored my missing item form submissions.

I'll get better service from pretty much any retailer, and be able to buy their product discounted more than what they're offering in this KS with free shipping and no duties on top of that.

Never again.

The Nameless look like crab people aliens. They should have a cool crab people aliens name instead. Obviously Mon Calamari is already taken but Mantic can do better than Nameless.

I'm impressed that they listened to requests for newer alien minions and the Nameless in particular.

Dungeon Saga, like Massive Darkness, benefitted from the fact that they included standard Fantasy iconic monsters.

If I never play a game of Dungeon Saga or Massive Darkness, I know I can still get use of those figures in D&D, SOBH, or KOW even.

SciFi stuff is more proprietary and setting specific. Outside of Deadzone or Warpath these figures don't easily fit into other games.

I'm almost certainly going to acquire those nameless. The question is when and how deeply discounted.

Prestor Jon wrote:
The Nameless look like crab people aliens. They should have a cool crab people aliens name instead. Obviously Mon Calamari is already taken but Mantic can do better than Nameless.

There was some background piece if I recall correctly where it was stated they do have a name but their language is impossible to understand so they ended up being called "The Nameless" by the corporations in the same way that the Veer-Myn aren't actually Veer-Myn it's just a Corporation name for them

Granted there are better names than the nameless and the background might get rewritten

Prestor Jon wrote:
The Nameless look like crab people aliens. They should have a cool crab people aliens name instead. Obviously Mon Calamari is already taken but Mantic can do better than Nameless.

Pan Fo?

 DaveC wrote:
Granted there are better names than the nameless and the background might get rewritten

How about "The Blameless?" They could go around invading other planets, and then when people complain about it, say things like "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones," "Who are you to accuse me?," and "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," and then point out that the people they're invading have done equally bad things to other alien races in the past.

So, they threw in the nameless for free and... nothing happened yet, still struggling to reach 215k and the survivor stretch goal.

The reddit AMA was not that insightful too.

I'm not a big fan of the nameless concepts so it doesn't add any value to me. I also doubt their ability to turn those concept sketches into well cast figures using the board game plastic Mantic says they will use this time around.

I suspect some lucky Mantic fan will be able to grab my EB pledge in the last few hours.

What kind of board game plastic are they saying they'll use? I thought this was going to be the same PVC mix they used with Deadzone 2, which was excellent. Not so?

 Vermonter wrote:
What kind of board game plastic are they saying they'll use? I thought this was going to be the same PVC mix they used with Deadzone 2, which was excellent. Not so?

Not sure what they used for that. They said this KS will use what they are using for their Walking Dead stuff. I worry that all the tentacles and multiple legs and other nameless parts don't translate well into single piece figures in that material. I could be 100% wrong, and for the sake of those who like these concept sketches hope I am. Maybe they've already addressed it in the comments (which I have yet to look at) so my fears are unfounded. I do know the Nameless dread ball team ended up in metal.

Ive been hearing about this ama, but couldnt find it anywhere... someone have a link?

https://www.reddit.com/r/tabletop/comments/55nzqh/mantic_games_star_saga_ama_oct_4th_2016/

This one I think

 CptJake wrote:

 Vermonter wrote:
What kind of board game plastic are they saying they'll use? I thought this was going to be the same PVC mix they used with Deadzone 2, which was excellent. Not so?

Not sure what they used for that. They said this KS will use what they are using for their Walking Dead stuff. I worry that all the tentacles and multiple legs and other nameless parts don't translate well into single piece figures in that material. I could be 100% wrong, and for the sake of those who like these concept sketches hope I am. Maybe they've already addressed it in the comments (which I have yet to look at) so my fears are unfounded. I do know the Nameless dread ball team ended up in metal.

The main Nameless Dreadball team was produced in PVC - the "booster" models were produced in metal, presumably due to Mantic not wanting to commit funds to a steel mould for a potentially low-selling product, rather than a limitation of the material. Of course, both plastic and metal models came in lots of little bits there anyway - I too am concerned about the limits of single piece. The Mars Attacks & Dungeon Saga stuff was (at least partially) multi-piece, just pre-assembled, like a lot of the CMON models.

Todays updates

The Survivor is unlocked next is 2 extra Lab Technicians @$220k

SS rules for existing DZ Mercs - $10 for the cards only or 2 different sets including metal miniatures. DZ rules for SS Mercs will be a separate non KS release next year.





Fear In the Darkness Expansion

From today, the core pledge level will now include a complete expansion to use all your exclusive figures, with a full Mission Book and Card Deck exclusive to the Kickstarter! If that wasn't enough, this expansion will allow Blaine and his Mercenaries to face a new enemy - the Nameless. Along with the book and cards, we are adding a new Boss model 'The Fear', and 12 betentacled minions into the CORE PLEDGE at no extra cost!

The rulebook, boss and cards are KS exclusive the rest of the miniatures are not and may be released later as a DZ faction.

Was that expansion unlocked or just a throw-in to hopefully encourage more backers?

The second and it does not seem to work.

My wife quit playing DZ when it moved to a version without stat cards and having to copy out stat lines from a rulebook.

Now they'll actually make cards for the DZ figures but for a different game. Infuriating.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
The second and it does not seem to work.

Likely something that they were planning to offer/unlock later but it doesn't look like the total will reach the planned-for level.


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 Gimgamgoo wrote:
My wife quit playing DZ when it moved to a version without stat cards and having to copy out stat lines from a rulebook.

Now they'll actually make cards for the DZ figures but for a different game. Infuriating.

Just trying to be helpful but here's a link to someone's blank stat cards.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_VuBGlwms4s/VxBW0Zzc2AI/AAAAAAAAJRQ/oLOVugP0roERdKR2YT35XSr0-wVp7oSsACLcB/s1600/statcards2.jpg

Nameless Minions add on for those that want more or just the minions on their own (can be bought without a game pledge shipping costs added in PM)

dang that's actually tempting

I like the tiles. the brightness reminds me of Mass Effect or Knights of the Old Republic ships.

If they shade a few with red light to simulate hazard alarms, could look cool also.

Unless they go full Warpath with the shipping, I'm getting some nameless in the PM. And some of the worker dude minion guys I guess.

Honestly, they should rename dead zone mercenary pack to the awful miniatures super friends.

Ogan render

That Squat Engineer is the first thing in this KS that piques my interest. Not enough to pay KS prices + shipping, though.

 CptJake wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the nameless concepts so it doesn't add any value to me. I also doubt their ability to turn those concept sketches into well cast figures using the board game plastic Mantic says they will use this time around.

I suspect some lucky Mantic fan will be able to grab my EB pledge in the last few hours.

Ahem.




Interesting to see sets of 6 metal figures for $25. Mantic charged a hell of a lot more for them individually in previous KS, didn't they?

The dollar is a lot stronger against the pound than it was then, but yes! Was $45 for a very similar bundle of 6 for Deadzone 1 (believe it has 4 in common, and the 2 that weren't in that bundle were $8 add-ons). Good deal!

Especially if you view the cards as contributing $5 of the value - then it's $3.33 a model, and the orc is in a massive power suit!

The rest of the world benefits from the UK's insanity for once.

Looks good, will wait for all the Guinea Pigs to test it out for me