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nagash42 wrote:
Slayer le Boucher on b&c said the white dwarf gives names for the new weapons.

The rocket pack on the terminator is a hellfyre launcher, the cannon he says is a old school AC reaper cannon and they also get a heavy warp flamer.

Rubrics have warp flamers and a soul reaper cannon.

"Fyre"

Uh oh...

A gun that shoots dwarven slayers at high velocity, those axes are going to sting

Rubric Marines, nice.

Termis, ehh, not my cup.

Sorcerors. Some reeeally nice stuff there.

Ahriman. Oh wow.

The Tzaangors seem a bit lacking and not as good as the ST ones. Those weird bull necks and worse legs and beaks.

I like nuAhriman and the old 1k Sons best of all those Tzeentch CSM, so not really tempted to rush out and buy an army now, but I might get a squad for my WBs one day.


Praying and leaving fruits out to rot for a similiar Nurgle release in the future, though.

Oh man Binabik... don't even get me started. I've never wanted to play Chaos, but I would drop every project to get right on a pure Nurgle army given good quality Plague Marines, etc...

Sadly I don't think that's even been rumored, whereas we had Tzeench/Fate-Weaver, etc... stirrings for like two years now.

I hate that GW is releasing so much cool stuff just as I'm trying to save up some money. My willpower has been tested to the max these last few months!

This release has me feeling like a relapsed drug addict. I'd actually been slowly selling off all my GW toys, but now I'm planning out how to make a small Thousand Sons force. Just a small one, honest...

Welcome back, Magnus

LightKing wrote:Ok Magnus coming back, a Daemon Primarch, means this has to be the biggest shift in 40k since when?

Since 5th edition when the Golden Toilet stopped flushing properly.

Can't wait to see/hear if screamers will be possible to be joined by thousand sons characters.

Those sorceror models are sweet, i would really like to actually use them in a game. As it is now they have no decent squad to run with. I guess there's spawn, but that cuts down considerably on positioning options for a jetbike sorceror.

I guess it might be okay if the sorcerors can do some invuln save boosting. Would be nice to get a herald of tzeentch into a unit of sorcerors with a locus of conjuration as well. (If they have good shooting powers)

I have really screwed myself over.

I didn't think that this would be such a big release so I told someone that they could get me the new books for christmas and they didn't have to get me anything else. That was a mistake. I am now going to have to spend the next month and a half restraining myself from buying the new stuff or taking sneak peeks of the rules and story.

Let me know when christmas comes around.
~Sticks fingers in ears~ "La,la,la,la,la...."

General Kroll wrote:I wonder if these will just be reprints of the ebook codexes for sisters assassins and inquisition with a few formations thrown in.

That is my guess, but I am hoping for a new GW and it will not be the case. I really hate to say smoke and mirrors, but then seeing what the planetary assault or what ever that book is called is a collection of all books. Time will tell.

Togusa wrote:How interesting that I just accepted a new job offer... Then I come here and read this and my wallet just sits on my computer stand smiling at me, ever so lovingly.

Congrats for you. Sucks for me big time. Lost my job not a great time to be working and all these goodies come out. :(

Anyone know the prices yet

Sorry don't know how to post videos, can someone explain to me how? Saw this on Lady Atia's site.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1383

So Dec 3rd. Pre-release or when it's in our hands?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

They could put the Tzeentch rules in both the Wrath of Magnus AND Traitor Legion supplement. Not the first time- they did it for Tau with Kauyon and the new Tau codex, and then MontKa and the updated Farsight Enclaves supplement.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Not to mention Angels of Death was just White Scar and Raven Guard stuff from Kauyon (or was it Mont'ka that they were in?) plus updated versions of Sentinels of Terra & Clan Raukaan along with a few new rules.

Traitor Legions might be similar by having stuff from Traitor's Hate, the Black Legion Supplement and Wrath of Magnus plus some other stuff that does't have nearly as much effort put in to it.

Hopefully your right. Haven't touched Chaos in ages and the prospect of lugging a personal library around doesn't really appeal. Not to mention with the spectre of a new edition looming I would rather avoid splurging on a load of new books.

Davor wrote:
Sorry don't know how to post videos, can someone explain to me how? Saw this on Lady Atia's site.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1383

So Dec 3rd. Pre-release or when it's in our hands?

It's the teaser in the Facebook.

Before anyone asks: Yes, the Alpha Legion is there too, read several answers by GW in the FB xD

Davor wrote:
Sorry don't know how to post videos, can someone explain to me how? Saw this on Lady Atia's site.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1383

So Dec 3rd. Pre-release or when it's in our hands?

December 3rd is the preorder date. The videos have preorder dates at the end these days.

I think I would prefer Traitor Legions being a Space Marine supplement over a Choas Marine supplement. Mostly because I already use the C:SM book when I port over my 30k IW. Unless CSM got a major overhaul, it does not allow for porting 30k.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I think I would prefer Traitor Legions being a Space Marine supplement over a Choas Marine supplement. Mostly because I already use the C:SM book when I port over my 30k IW. Unless CSM got a major overhaul, it does not allow for porting 30k.

Does anyone really think it's going to be C: SM?

I have never really used my CSM - I only really have Be'lakor, Typhus, some Zombies, and some Blight Drones from FW. But if the Traitor Legion rules for Death Guard are good, I might end up having to buy things.

Ugh, GW why are you so good nowadays. Damn you!

Davor wrote:
Sorry don't know how to post videos, can someone explain to me how? Saw this on Lady Atia's site.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1383

So Dec 3rd. Pre-release or when it's in our hands?

I believe that you have to use the youtube code: [youtube]

As for what the 3rd means, they said magnus was for preorder on the 26th so the 3rd must be the preorder for traitors legion.

the youtube code doesn't work for facebook videos, sadly

I am really regretting getting my 30K Imperial Fists now. Those Thousand Sons miniatures look fantastic. I might get that Ahriman on disc anyway. Otherwise I might paint my 30K Ahriman as a 40K Ahriman.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
the youtube code doesn't work for facebook videos, sadly

Yes, but I believe only youtube videos can be embedded.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I think I would prefer Traitor Legions being a Space Marine supplement over a Choas Marine supplement. Mostly because I already use the C:SM book when I port over my 30k IW. Unless CSM got a major overhaul, it does not allow for porting 30k.

Does anyone really think it's going to be C: SM?

It does make more sense if you consider that only C:SM has rules for cataphractii terminators and contemptor dreadnoughts. If you look at the new Tzeentch minis, we see stylized 30k armor and not 40k chaos armor. Basically if Traitor Legions isn't attached to C:SM, it makes it much harder for people to buy up those HH plastic kits for 40k. Attaching to C:SM maximizes potential profits whilst also needing to cover the least amount of rules.

Come on its a typo. Making Traitor legions a supplement for the SM codex would mean they loose access to nearly everything in the CSM range that is not a SM kit plus spikey bits sprue. Not to mention with the amount of new unit and wargear rules, along with restrictions on existing SM units it would need you might as well release a full stand alone codex anyway.

Kanluwen wrote:

Davor wrote:
Sorry don't know how to post videos, can someone explain to me how? Saw this on Lady Atia's site.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1383

So Dec 3rd. Pre-release or when it's in our hands?

December 3rd is the preorder date. The videos have preorder dates at the end these days.

Thank you and others for letting me know. Greatly appreciated.

So is this the first time in a long time not counting Advent Calendar, that GW is releasing a release in December? I can't remember GW releasing anything besides battle box or Lord of the Rings in December. I mean like codices or 40K Fantasy books and minis. So more changes from GW. Keep it up. I like it

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I think I would prefer Traitor Legions being a Space Marine supplement over a Choas Marine supplement. Mostly because I already use the C:SM book when I port over my 30k IW. Unless CSM got a major overhaul, it does not allow for porting 30k.

Does anyone really think it's going to be C: SM?

It does make more sense if you consider that only C:SM has rules for cataphractii terminators and contemptor dreadnoughts. If you look at the new Tzeentch minis, we see stylized 30k armor and not 40k chaos armor. Basically if Traitor Legions isn't attached to C:SM, it makes it much harder for people to buy up those HH plastic kits for 40k. Attaching to C:SM maximizes potential profits whilst also needing to cover the least amount of rules.

No. . . No it doesn't make more sense. Why would the Traitor Legions be using post-Codex Astartes organization and infrastructure?

Imagine the Traitor Primarchs after the Heresey thinking to themselves, "Gee, you know that Guilliman guy is right, we should totally break down our Legions into Chapters and adopt his recommended unit structures." It doesn't make any sense at all.

Feel free to give Chaos Contemptors and Cataphractii though, knock yourself out.

Legion supplement YouTube vid for those who don't like Facebook

 Insectum7 wrote:
Feel free to give Chaos Contemptors and Cataphractii though, knock yourself out.

A Contemptor would look really good alongside the new Terminators.

 Insectum7 wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I think I would prefer Traitor Legions being a Space Marine supplement over a Choas Marine supplement. Mostly because I already use the C:SM book when I port over my 30k IW. Unless CSM got a major overhaul, it does not allow for porting 30k.

Does anyone really think it's going to be C: SM?

It does make more sense if you consider that only C:SM has rules for cataphractii terminators and contemptor dreadnoughts. If you look at the new Tzeentch minis, we see stylized 30k armor and not 40k chaos armor. Basically if Traitor Legions isn't attached to C:SM, it makes it much harder for people to buy up those HH plastic kits for 40k. Attaching to C:SM maximizes potential profits whilst also needing to cover the least amount of rules.

No. . . No it doesn't make more sense. Why would the Traitor Legions be using post-Codex Astartes organization and infrastructure?

Imagine the Traitor Primarchs after the Heresey thinking to themselves, "Gee, you know that Guilliman guy is right, we should totally break down our Legions into Chapters and adopt his recommended unit structures." It doesn't make any sense at all.

Feel free to give Chaos Contemptors and Cataphractii though, knock yourself out.

What about the C:SM says codex astartes organization. It uses the same as every other army in the game. 2 HQ, 3 Elites, 6 Troops, 3 FA and 3 HS at the most basic organization not including all of thr various other organization styles. If you can play a chapter that doesn't use codex astartes in C:SM then how does that arguement make sense?

I can play my HH era army with C:SM but I can't with CSM. Post-HH is still easier with C:SM.